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- From: sk (@ 202.156.2.7)
on: Wed Nov 27 15:15:15 EST 2002
kalai:
AththOram maNaleduththu azhagazhagAi veedu katti
is from the movie 'vAzhkkai vAzhvadhaRkE'. The happy version of the song (sung by PS and LRE?) is sung in the movie by child artistes (kutti Padmini and someone) playing the 'childhood' roles of Saroja Devi and Gemini. The sad version of the song comes later in the movie, and is sung by PBS and PS. The movie has two PS solos 'azhagu rasippadhaRkE' and 'Adak kANbadhu kAviri veLLam'. There are two more PBS-PS duets: 'nenjaththil iruppadhu enna enna', and 'avan pOrukkup pOnAn'. The latter song is the one that continues as 'nAn pAdiya pAdal mannavan kEttAn padaiyudane vandhAn'. There is also one LRE solo right at the beginning of the movie, 'azhagAna malayALam'.
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Wed Nov 27 21:34:51 EST 2002
AththOram maNaleduththu (Children version) is by Sarala and LR Anjali (not PS + LRE).
"nan pAdiya pAdal mannavan kEttAn" and 'avan pOrukkup pOnAn' are in the same dance dram sequence.... the "nan paadiya" was a great piece wherein PS sings it effortlessly... a superb melody...
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.167)
on: Thu Nov 28 04:00:18 EST 2002
sk- 'Aada kaanbathu kaviri vellam' is by PS and Jamunarani for Sarojadevi and Sarada
- From: Sushma y (@ 202.141.24.2)
on: Thu Nov 28 04:46:30 EST 2002
Smt p susheela,your blessings made your young brother P JAYACHANDRAN to become the king of music!
- From: sk (@ 137.132.3.11)
on: Thu Nov 28 05:03:04 EST 2002
Subbu & Saravanan:
Thanks for the updates on the 'vAzhkkai vAzhvadhaRkE' songs.
Can someone give details on the initial "P" in PS and PJ please?
- From: Analyser (@ 203.199.213.5)
on: Thu Nov 28 09:01:39 EST 2002
Why Sri P JAYACHANDRAN and Smt P SUSHEELA are the all time best singers in India?Because..
*******CHARACTERISTICE OF THE BEST SINGERS IN INDIA*********
1.MELODY:Jayachandran is melody,i am ashamed of stating about such a great person that "JAYACHANDRAN IS
HAVING MELODY ALSO".But yesudas now and then had it.
2.RANGE:Jayachandran's 90% songs had this characteristic.Let me point out some songs which have some less range
Ninpadangalil
Nunakkuzhikavilil
Bhoolokarambhayute
Yesudas's songs have range but equally there are songs which don't have range.It is like 2 faces of a coin
3.SPEED:There is no speed in yesudas's songs.Noone can show a speedy song sung by him.He tried to sing sometimes
like
pavataprayathil
which have not succeeded since it resembles a conversation.
Jayachandran is superb in speed.
Take for eg the song
pa pa pa pa pa nisa manohari
ma ma ma ma ma vikaramanjari devasundari
To pronounce it properly and sing it speedily yesudas is not at all perfect.Jayachandran was fully perfect.
4.VIBRATIONS:Vibrations are made by both singers.Both are equally good in it.Jayachandran's
vibrations in prayam nammil was beautiful.
5.DEPTH:Jayachandran has much depth than yesudas.In depth yesudas is nil in front of jayachandran.Even in a simple
padam like karivarivandukal kurunirakal in DEVARAGAM take the part "kaikalo-o-o-
jalapushpavalayangalo-o-o-o-o"
He has the depth there.In all songs this is coming into picture.As Ajith show above,yesudas was unable to maintain raaga
at high pitches is About this aspect.
6.SOFTNESS:Even now when he is not getting chances as yesudas he maintains the softness like the song
Ariyathe ariyathe-e in RAVANAPRABHU.But Jayachandran is not the master of this it is Hariharan.But Yesudas is
nothing in this,he is always noty soft.But some songs like Kattile pazhmulam thandil ghe approached it.Jayachandran and
Hariharan are 2 good in it.
7.VERSATILITY:Altogether more versatile is Jayachandran but due to luck yesudas was more famous.It does not mean
that jayachandran is less versatile.He was not recognised as he should be.
If Jayachandran was given more chances he would have shown up the world.But when politics or other pressure comes
against a singer what the most versatile singer can do?
That is why i consider him as most versatile.If he should have remained there in bollywood,he would have been famous
like his students.
Jayachandran is the most talented singer ever India had seen.
Sri P JAYACHANDRAN is undoubtedly the 'best singer' India has ever produced.
he has proven his potentiality in all the major characteristics needed for a vocal singer.
1. melody
2. range
3. speed
4. vibrations & oscillations
5. depth
6. softness
7 versatality (ability to shine in film music, classical, devotional, semi -classical light music, festive music etc..)
no other singer in India has proven his ability in such diversified kinds of vocal singing!
and nobody can match him in vocal characteristics mentioned above. Other singers may have the first 3 but not the other
ones. Some other singers may have the last 3 but not the initial ones. There has not been a single singer in INdia that has
proven in all the above mentioned vocal characteristics !!
Friends,the all above is applicable to SINGING GODESS P SUSHEELA in female section...
She is all time best..even better than Lathaji or Ashaji!!!!!!
- From: kalai (@ 210.214.115.73)
on: Thu Nov 28 20:44:35 EST 2002
Analyzer
Pl. avoid comparision of PS with any other singer in this page. It will lead us to unnecessary arguments. If possible Pl. write more duets of PJ+PS in malayalam. we have very less aceess of PS malayalam songs
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Thu Nov 28 21:48:41 EST 2002
This thread is titled as "PSusheela Fans" and to share her songs... whether solo or duets with PJ or KJY or SPB or TMS...
I suggest one more thread can be opened to share the highlights of PJ and not here...
As Kalai said, if any duets of PS with PJ, you may post a lot and share your experience..
- From: Siva (@ 194.180.160.10)
on: Fri Nov 29 04:19:30 EST 2002
Saravanan
" Narumana malargalin suyamvaramo..." from Urangaatha Ninaiugal. Is it sung by PS &..? any more PS songs in it? This movie IR was MD.
Is there any PS song in the movie Ullam Uruguthadi
This movie also IR was MD.
- From: kalai (@ 210.214.114.155)
on: Fri Nov 29 07:51:32 EST 2002
I remember one song "PaaduPattu " from Urangatha Ninaivukal", the MD is IR and it is a PS solo.
- From: Lord of the rings (@ 216.209.200.18)
on: Fri Nov 29 08:21:08 EST 2002
Is it really P Jayachandran is the brother of P Susheela? I thought Jchandran is malayalam and susheela is telugu. Please someone clarify me.
- From: Subbu (@ 219.65.136.147)
on: Fri Nov 29 10:07:55 EST 2002
who acted in urangadha ninaivugal? sulakshana?
PS and PJ are not related at all... except that same initial
- From: kalaimamani (@ 203.199.213.4)
on: Fri Nov 29 10:10:34 EST 2002
hi lord of rings,
They are not related but considers so
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.212)
on: Sat Nov 30 02:16:41 EST 2002
Siva, 'Narumana malargalin' is by SJ.
- From: Siva (@ 194.180.160.10)
on: Sat Nov 30 04:20:03 EST 2002
Saravanan
Any PS songs in Kaadhal Geetham? Acted by Karthik and shobana
There is one song start like " Naan kaathal leelai kannan oru kannam vaikkum kalvan un paarijatha poovai kann parkka parkka bothai..." Nice song Who has sung it?
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170)
on: Sat Nov 30 04:27:17 EST 2002
Siva- I don't remember about Kathal Geetham, but 'Naan kaathal leelai kannan' is from Ninaivugal, sung by SPB-SJ.
- From: Siva (@ 194.180.160.10)
on: Sat Nov 30 05:19:23 EST 2002
saravanan
Do you remember any PS song in Aagaaya Thaamarai and Thanga Thaamarai?
I have great confusion to recognise PS and SPS songs .Please look SP Shailaja thread and confirm me all are really sung by SPS.
- From: Vicky (@ 12.89.172.154)
on: Sat Nov 30 21:05:54 EST 2002
The saying goes..."Its like finishing a fulfilling dinner with "Cognac". Well..... I am referring to a masterpiece of composer G Ramanathan which is faded past into our memories. Its not the compelling music of GR that elevates the song, but, its the always dutiful and mesmerising voice of PS. T M Sounderajan also plays a secondary role in this creative attempt lending a hand to GR thereby creating a tranquil soundscape.
"Mohana Punnagai" from the movie "Vanangamudi", a highly colorful and aromatic piece suited to popular taste of that time. Not a single bar of music is borrowed. Its a priceless heritage of GR and PS. If one is destined to devote most of one's life to playback singing, one can start in no better way than by being born with the beautiful voice of "P Susheela", with her clear connotations of singing.
To me this is a dialogue song of the responsorial type, like "Bailero", a french folk song of Marie-Joseph Canteloube. In the early era of film making, no one has cared so passionately than GR in infusing classical raw material into his orchestral works. That's his genius. His melodies (to name a few...Kanvazhi Pugundhu, Ulavum Thendral Katrinilae, Thensuvai Mevum [a piano interlude in between], Ullam Rendum Ondru, Manamohana) cannot be quantified by complex metrics, but rather they are contemporary fluid pieces with strong regular rhythmic patterns. How did he do that? Enough now of GR's musical achievements.
In this song, GR, PS & TMS establish a great rapport. PS with a natural temperament in her voice takes on the enormous responsibility of carrying this timeless masterpiece on her vocal chords. Did GR envision this act of betrayal? May be he did...and became a silent spectator witnessing an emerging skill of PS's absorption of music like the grandiose great operas and a southern passion for naturalness. It was a strange relationship indeed which lasted over a period of seven years. PS was a valuable help to his music. PS got trained in GR's works as it was as spontaneous and vivacious as any other composition of its period.
Scored with a perfect traditional balance of woodwind and percussion and with slowest tempo, PS in GR's mentioned compostion employs a equal harmonic restraint and conveys a mood of joyful insouciance. However, the middle section of the music is kept quite simple. GR's playful woodwind exoticism also has a conservative touch, not to parallel his earlier masterpieces since 1940's.
PS made conscious efforts and moved away from established patterns, quite significant for that era. If a emerging playback singer like PS receives an offer with all the riches and promises, one does'nt ignore it. Its an opportunity which paid off..for which she will remain thankful.
PS's cooler rusticity only emerges later. With astonishing alacrity, PS created her own opportunity. She did make a favorable impression as a versatile playback singer on GR and which won her a lasting reputation. GR's copious compositions and PS's rendering have survived the test of time.
For a listener, "Mohana Punnagai" implies an ancient song of rustic character and its accompanying dance. But for a devoted pupil, it was a vital art-music based on nationalist sources. PS's voice supplants the percussion with its dynamic range and acquiring overriding importance as the only playback artiste in that masterpiece song. Listen to it.....Once there, we hear no lyrical themes as such, only the brilliant hymn of P Susheela.
To be contd........
- From: kalai (@ 210.210.48.166)
on: Mon Dec 2 23:23:44 EST 2002
Thank U vicky! Good writing.. keep writing ..
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