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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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Some composers to check out (in no particular order): Jay, Srikanth, Ganesh, Eswar, Sridhar Seetharaman, Kumar, Rjay. Vishwesh Obla

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• From: Mahati (@ 160.231.5.127) on: Tue Nov 4 08:36:23 EST 2003
  
  This has become kind of FYI( For your Information )thread.
  
  Many musicians in this thread have been doing good work and posting them. There's no response many times from many here...Eventually this thread has a potential danger of no music, no discussions and no one publishes. May be that's the destiny for which we are all
  responsible:-))...
  
  But Mahati believes that a musician is least affected as he continues things for his pleasure and business as usual...
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Tue Nov 4 09:25:34 EST 2003
  
  Mahati,
  
  I totally agree with that. We should try not to scratch each other's back, but to give objective feedback, so all of us improve. Also to contribute new techniques you learn.
  
  At some point, I realized that I had stopped giving feedback to other people's works.
  
  I remember my first composition(?) in 1997. I had sent it to RJAY for feedback. He promptly replied "Sridhar! You have just picked up a rhythm and played some random notes in a raagam. This is not a composition". He then went on to explain whatever he knew at that point.
  
  That is exactly every amatuer composer looks for. A mentor and a partner-in-crime.
  
  Do I make sense?
  
  
  
• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Tue Nov 4 14:24:45 EST 2003
  
  personally I think some of the musicians here are on the way to making big in the industry if only they choose that as a mainstream work....I have noted myself, pieces that impressed me....listened to it at various occasions but by the time you review it the thread has already been occupied by other interesting works...Tune that come to my mind now that are worth attention and praise....
  
  quickly
  
  1) John's(Naveen) Work on the Piano song Sippi irrukuthu..great song, great work on the Piano!
  
  2) I have listened to Kicha;s recen work...assuming he is swamiji...I knew it right from the start he has it..when I listened to his Midi works, songs like yen vanilae
  
  3) ofcourse singers I have listened to are MS and Radhika....
  
  4) Aditya's work on the veena
  
  5) lyrics from Udhaya...
  
  I missing many pieces but this is what comes to my mind right now....Great work!!
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.18) on: Tue Nov 4 14:45:28 EST 2003
  
  Divakar I am not Kicha! You guys have some of your own great comps to your credit - I have none :) Well I do, just a few, but I consider them incomplete ;)
  
  Its been busy at work, so I never got time to listen any music or write emails, let alone compose. I hope to during christmas ...lets see!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Radhika (@ 141.150.38.92) on: Tue Nov 4 15:24:04 EST 2003
  
  Its good to see everybody coming together again. Hope this is a sign that this thread will be active again like before....
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.77) on: Tue Nov 4 15:31:26 EST 2003
  
  Sridhar:
  
  Your post compels me to share some experience of mine in the task of composing. My first ever composition was attempted with the raga malayamarutham for a hindi poem written by anshuman avasthi after obtaining due permission. When I discussed with rajaG about the tune I made, his comment was : "thamiz paattai hindi lyrics la paadaadhe (dont sing a tamil songs with hindi words)" :-) I think this happened two years ago. His comment, though apt, created a sense of insecure feeling in me and I decided to stop composing and I did.
  
  To familiarize myself with more music, I started listening to an exceedingly high number of semi and light classicals of all languages right from malayalm to bengali and always listneing seriously to various raga renditions by the stalwarts.
  
  But last year around september I took the same song and was wondering if I could write lyrics on my own. Then I wrote tamil lyrics for that song which I had previously composed a tune for the hindi words of anshuman. Suddenly things seem to start falling in place. When I rediscussed with my critic friends (IR aka isairasigai and srinath) they could appreciate what I am slowly coming up with and encouraged me to do more.
  
  At this juncture, vijay (a regular in DF since 1997 and also my room mate for a while) said he was interested in composing too. We decided that we must do a devotional album by now and started off with an amrutavarshini song. I found that I lacked the ability to notate and hence I learnt the swara notation of carnatic in 30 minutes from another friend and started using it regularly for notating our compositions.
  
  After a series of songs which dealt things very classically, we switched over to hindustani genre and tried our hand there. We created some songs with ragas like jog, darbari kanada, sindhubhairavi and we got intouch with some good singers who could do maximum justice to our imagination.
  
  Once that was over we shifted to songs like "paadhi raavil" which I would call the melody genre where expressiveness and emotion are the key parameters.
  
  It has been going smoothly for while and I have been enjoying my work with Udhaya and vijay immensely (and recently some inputs from aditya). We switch roles sometimes. Udhaya composes sometimes and I write :-) More than the song, it is the song making process and team activity that has given us tremendous pleasure inspite of everything being online or over the phone ! Infact, none of the songs we have done till date have been orchestrated yet. All stand in the what we call the "tune" stage :-) But as I said earlier, this seems to give a lot of pleasure by itself and most of the songs that we have been creating are singer centric. I hope that once we get time and amenable circumstances we would release something which you people can hear and comment :-)
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Tue Nov 4 15:38:53 EST 2003
  
  MS,
  
  You are on the right track. You have found your team. That is the key.
  
  Interesting thing is that this forum made it happen. We have found people whom we vibe with and are able to contribute to each other's growth.
  
  I find Diwakar very active in Guitar Prasanna's Discussion forum. You need a team to talk to and keep moving.
  
  Key thing is "Keep producing", "Keep producing"
  
  
  
• From: (pazhaya tfm) Kitcha (@ 66.176.167.250) on: Tue Nov 4 23:47:40 EST 2003
  
  Why not have a contest of some kind amongst the composers here? We could pitch in some money towards the "grand prize". :) We could spend some time formulating the rules and then maybe get tfm-ers to vote OR have a panel of sorts decide the winner.
  Here's an idea...have Udhaya come up with his best lyrics and then everyone here come up with his/her version of the song. And yep, I'm ready to pitch in the cash-money too!
  Just a thought.
  
  
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.77) on: Wed Nov 5 01:52:34 EST 2003
  
  Kitcha..you are a little late :-) It is already over. Please see this thread.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/8868.11.51.47.html
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 67.124.142.68) on: Wed Nov 5 02:36:41 EST 2003
  
  Mahati,
  I read this thread all the time and am fond of all the musicians here. There's not one here whose work I don't enjoy. An amazing thing here is everyone is strikingly unique. For someone who interacts with musicians (as a lyricist)all the time, I rarely have anything to say critically about their music here since my knowledge of the nuts and bolts of music is hearsay and not theoretical. When discussions go on about rendering nuances of raagams, beat structures, and chord changes, I take my respective spot and that's out of here.
  
  It's hard for me to chime in with a flavorless, "Good job" or like any layman come up with a similar sounding song or wax poetic about how a new creation affected me when the next guy is going to deconstruct the piece with informed clarity. I regard this as the playroom for musicians. Now, if someone discusses lyrics, I'll come by. I have reviewed works here before, but there are much better folks here to do that sort of thing now, so I keep my peace about it.
  
  Also, like someone mentioned, before one piece can be digested a new one arrives, and I don't want to hold up the class by lagging.
  
  Kitcha,
  I'm game for your suggestion. We've actually done this to an extent in another thread, "Advantages of composing prewritten lyrics".
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.122) on: Wed Nov 5 10:25:30 EST 2003
  
  This is how an idea for a composition starts in the mind.
  
  http://www.geocities.com/rjaymidi/morning_theme.mp3
  
  
• From: p.Kitcha (@ 136.182.2.221) on: Wed Nov 5 10:52:51 EST 2003
  
  While I continue my quest for an original idea :), I'd say we can still do this. Its not like Udhaya is limited to one song and you guys to one tune. So how about ANOTHER such contest? Since Udhaya is game, it just remains for the others to show up.
  
  
• From: Da Vinci (@ 128.113.109.84) on: Wed Nov 5 12:54:15 EST 2003
  
  Satson,
  
  Since I didnt see any reply to your question, I will try to reply with what I know.
  
  When you move your midi stuff from your synthesizer to a PC, you cannot expect to reproduce the same quality of sound, since what is reproduced from your PC depends on what kind of Sound Card your PC has. The better the sound card, the better the quality from your PC.
  
  Hope it clarifies.
  
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  My question is: How to get the same instruments from the Keyboard into the software, so that I can hear the same quality of music as coming from the keyboard. Please guide me Whether I have to use some other software apart from the mentioned, or do I have to use some plug-ins with the present softwares..or any other process?
  
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 67.124.142.68) on: Wed Nov 5 14:05:50 EST 2003
  
  Kitcha,
  I maybe self-indulgent here, but you asked for it. So here goes. The following song is gender-neutral. The lines can be broken other ways than I have shown, so anyone's open to give it a shot. I'm also open to fixing particular words or lines to suit individual needs. As you can see, the song can be broken into any number of sections (pallavi, anupallavi, etc.) or sung as is. It's all up for interpretation.
  
  sindhippoagum mugilae mugilae
  mazhaiyenum muthuth thooRal inithae inithae
  mugavanam malargiRathu
  mudhugilum nanaigiRathu
  iLaingyarin thavamaRindhu
  tharisanam vazhangiduthu
  punalena pongiduthae saalaigalum,
  sindhippoagum mugilae mugilae…
  
  kaikkuttai koondhalil poikkudaiyaai maaRaathoa?
  kaappikkadai pugaikooda karpoorampoal veesaadhoa?
  azhukkuppoala aridhaaram
  mugaththai neengi oaduthae
  ettippoagum vaaganam
  ezuppippoagum thaaraiyaai
  nenjoarathil endRum neeraadidum uneNNamae
  sindhippoagum mugilae mugilae…
  
  minnal keetRu thoandRudhae
  vaanavar eduththa pugaippadamoa?
  saththam poaattu idippathu
  moolavar kai thatti nagaippadhoa?
  mullaikk kaattin vaasanai
  koLLai koNdu poaguthae
  moongil kaattin oasaigaL
  mounak kaatRaik koosudhae
  sendhaamarai kuLipaattavae munaindhadhoa?
  sindhippoagum mugilae mugilae…
  
  
  

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