Topic started by Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on Mon Apr 6 02:26:53 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
The aim of this thread is to collect, at one place, interesting
stories, anecdotes, tit-bits etc, related to TFM. A newcomer to
the forum will find this collection very interesting to read. For
example, Ramki mentioned the following story in another thread:
Do you remember the 'vizhiyil vizhundhu' (alaigal oyvadhillai) song?
Andha situation BRkku suddenaaga thondra, VMkku outdoor shootingil irundhu
phone seidhu kettuLLaar. VM phoneliye lyrics solla adhai tape seidhu
udanae IRkku anuppa, IR Janaki, Shailaja, PS ellariayum koppitturkkar
but no one was available. BSS mathram dhan mattirkkanga so avangalukku
adichadhu adhirshtam. The whole song was done in just 2 hrs time.
Annikke song shoot panni mudichittaangalaam.
Folks, please share any such stories, anecdotes and tit-bits that
you know, in this thread. If TFM Group thinks it is sufficiently
interesting, they could even place it in Permanent Topics.
Responses:
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- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com)
on: Sat Jan 30 20:38:00 EST 1999
GV......Enna Saar kindalaa? Well....any established musician has to be related to me somewhere down the line.... Summa thaan...seriousa eduthukka vendaam...actually this guy has a phenomenol collection of cassettes in his shop in Mylapore. Headphones are available for you make your pick and listen to it in a quiet corner. (I was just told so, I have not visited this shop yet.)
- From: GV (@ d12-fx01-lond-pdi.attcanada.net)
on: Sun Jan 31 00:25:55 EST 1999
Sriram:
Just couldn't resist asking that question!
Thanks for the info.
- From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Sun Jan 31 01:34:26 EST 1999
anuradha sriram was introduced by Deva.
- From: Ramki (@ pm062-04.spindler.wmich.edu)
on: Sun Jan 31 02:18:39 EST 1999
Shankar Anus first song is 'ini acham achamillai'from INdra
- From: Madhan,Goa (@ 202.41.117.55)
on: Mon Feb 8 00:16:25 EST 1999
Friends,
I read an interview of Gangai Amaran in the recent edition of KUNGUMAM, in which he had mentioned about the movie ARUNACHALAM and its music - I have given below an English translation of this part of the interview -
GANGAI AMARAN - " Rajni had struck upon the name ARUNACHALAM only after listening to IR's album on the same name - so I thought it would be apt for IR to score for that movie also - and I gave the suggestion to Rajni - Rajni also agreed to that - one month later after I had come back from an overseas tour, I learnt that Deva is doing the music for the movie - I was very hurt and dissappointed - the same evening, I got a call from Rajni who told me that the director of ARUNACHALAM told him that 'it would be difficult to get different tunes from IR, because of his temperament -' so we decided to sign Deva - please donot mistake me "
YAARAPPAA indha director of the great kaaviyam " Arunaachalam" ??!!
- From: RR (@ pb.cache.nlanr.net)
on: Mon Feb 8 00:53:17 EST 1999
Madhan, It's Sundar C. I feel Deva must've been Rajni's choice, 'cos Sundar's favorite is Sirpi.
- From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Mon Feb 8 05:01:36 EST 1999
Madhan,
Even I doubt this bcos ,sundar C has not signed Deva for any of his movies till date (but i hear that Deva is the MD for his next movie ),it wud 've been surely rajni's choice ,for Raja won't agree to give some third rate dappAnguthus like adhAnda idhAnda or bAshA pAru..bAshA pAru which Rajni and his fans only can enjoy.
He's one of the actors to have very poor taste in music.
- From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Mon Feb 8 12:34:08 EST 1999
I saw 'House Full' during my recent visit to India. I couldn't help noticing in one scene where, near the gate of Bharat Talkies (in the movie) there was an ad. for an upcoming movie in that theatre. The MD of that fictitious movie was IR and the lyricist Vairamuthu. I liked the way Parthiban (the director) subtely conveyed his desire that these two should join together again.
- From: pg (@ gate02.merck-medco.com)
on: Mon Feb 8 15:33:01 EST 1999
In one of the interviews Rajni himself struck upon the name Arunachalam when he was listening to Raja's ramana mAlai.
(Mike) Mohan when asked why he chose Deva for music for his directorial venture 'anbuLLa kAdhalukku' when it was Raja who gave Mike Mohan a successful career with wonderful music, Mike replied that he was scared of Raja and that he wouldn't be able to talk to Raja.
Such is the reputation of Raja. People are plain scared of approaching him for music.
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-89-16.sprint.ca)
on: Mon Feb 8 16:31:28 EST 1999
pg
WHY?
- From: nakkeeran (@ inet-fw4-o.oracle.com)
on: Thu Feb 25 18:31:43 EST 1999
Must be 'coz, it's Raja who gave a life to Mike! When this thought is in his mind, how can he talk to Raja, say even refusing certain tune? Or else, he'll end up accepting whatever Raja delivered. I dont mean Raja might give bad tunes, but since tastes differ, and if Mike doesn't like some, he must be in a position to say so. I understand he was the one to have produced the movie also.
- From: SM (@ 205.218.142.215)
on: Mon Mar 1 21:14:24 EST 1999
Ravy,
Good observation.
Nakkeeran,
You are right, probably. Logically speaking, Mike kodi katti parandhadhukku kaaranamae IRdhan. Otherwise, this actor would have been forgotten long time back like "Oru Thalai Raagam" Shankar and "Kozhi Koovuthu" Suresh. So, even if he didn't like any tune, he can't ask (for that matter, no one, except a Rajni , Kamal, KB or BR), can ask IR for a different tune.
Shankar,
Nicea Rajni fansoda tastea criticize pannitteenga paartheengaLaa? Ok. I am a Rajni fan and I liked watching (not listening to alone) "adhaanda idhaanda" song just for Rajni's action. The tune suited Rajni's fast movements (not dance movements, though. Just his fast walk). At the same time, I am a great admirer, like any one in this forum, of IR's 80's songs. If it is a Rajni film, I really don't care about the MD or the tunes. So, with this can you give a generalized statement that Rajni and his fans have a bad taste.
- From: eden (@ 202.54.71.156)
on: Mon Mar 1 23:12:17 EST 1999
SM,
Shankar did not criticize the musical taste of Rajni fans, rather he commented on the musical taste of Rajni only, which is true, though it hardly affects his otherwise great talents and popularity.(IR himself told in one TV interview that Rajni never bothers him whatsoever about music while Kamal is quite demanding). So cheer up!
- From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Tue Mar 2 04:15:16 EST 1999
thanx eden for reflecting what i really had in mind.
- From: SM (@ 205.218.142.215)
on: Tue Mar 2 13:31:05 EST 1999
> for Raja won't agree to give some third rate > dappAnguthus like
> adhAnda idhAnda or bAshA pAru..bAshA pAru > which Rajni and his fans only can enjoy.
Shankar and Eden,
Don't mistake me. I didn't mean it seriously and all. But, the above posting gave me the feeling that Shankar was commenting about Rajni and his fans. Anyway, I really didn't take it seriously. Just for fun.
And Shankar, why do you call "adhaanda idhaanda" as "cheap" dappaangkuthu and Raja won't give cheap songs? If that is the case, then songs like "kanna thorakkanum Sami", "nethu raathiri yemma", "paLLikoodam pogalaamaa", "vaadi vethala paakku" are even cheap, right? Raja also has given such songs and if the situation demands it, the MD is forced to give such songs. With this can one blame Raja or his fans taste? Definitely not. Similar is the case with Rajni and his fans also. Rajni didn't demand anything from IR because he knew that IR knows better than him and he can give music that will satisfy his fans and Raja catered to it. While Raja gave excellent music, Deva has not been able to come anywhere near it. But, still ezhaikku yetha eLLurundai maadhiri yedho seiraar.
- From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Wed Mar 3 06:55:49 EST 1999
SM,
What i was trying to say was that Rajni was accepting whatever that was composed by the MD. His earlier numbers were good bcos , Raja never expected somebody to inspire/ask him to give good numbers. But Rajnikant can as well ask him to give better scores , if songs weren't good. Why didn't he ask arr not to score songs like thillAnA..thillAnA or that lousy screams like bAshA...bAshA .
- From: SM (@ 205.218.142.215)
on: Wed Mar 3 15:21:58 EST 1999
Shankar,
Deva was the MD of "Baatsha". Anyway, I accept the fact that Rajni is one who accepts whatever music the MD of his film gives. That's why Raja himself once said that it is easy to compose music for a Rajni film than for a Kamal film, as Kamal demands more. (Even if that is the case, what about songs of "Maharaasan"? Junk!!! Didn't Kamal ask IR to give better songs for this film?). The reason why Rajni didn't demand too much from IR maybe because that Rajni believed IR and IR has satisfied him more than what he expected. So, in his initial stages in the industry, music was also important for Rajni's films and IR was right there. But, of late, music is not that important for Rajni films. He can carry a film on his own shoulders and also he cannot expect similar music from Deva. ARR also did not do as I expected in "Muthu". But, still, what is the result? All his films are hits just because of his star status.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.27.24)
on: Wed Mar 3 16:53:52 EST 1999
SM,
i dont believe that maharaasan was a kamal film at all. he just did a guest role in it inorder to help the producer/director of that film (financially),who had earlier helped kamal in his early days in films like kalyaanaraaman etc. this is what i remember having read in a popular tamil mag a few years back. but the only song in which kamal comes in that film 'raakozhi koovum neram' was popular and was also a sort of mini-hit.
very very few kamal films have had bad music by IR. notable among them was, IMO, magalir mattum.
- From: SM (@ 205.218.142.215)
on: Wed Mar 3 20:48:06 EST 1999
Vijay,
You are right. But, Kamal did a guest role only in "Magalir Mattum" and "Sathi Leelavathi". And these two films certainly had bad music. The latter had one good song in it - "maharaajanodu raani vandhu serum" but the former had none. Some may praise "karavai maadu" for SJ's talent but IMO, that was also a bad song. Innonnu gavanicheengaLa? Kamalhassan guest rolela varra padangaLil ellaam, music is not that great!!! Maybe he doesn't concentrate on the music portion of those films in which he does a guest role.
- From: SM (@ 205.218.142.215)
on: Wed Mar 3 20:49:13 EST 1999
And, I didn't like 'raakkozhi koovum neram' because of the bad lyrical quality as well as the poor picturization. The music wasn't that good either.
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