Topic started by Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 12.92.214.200) on Mon Jun 25 22:47:19 EDT 2001.
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- From: Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 19.norcross-09rh16rt.ga.dial-access.att.net)
on: Sat Aug 4 18:37:30 EDT 2001
g.maruthi,
unakkellam reply pannuradhe waste, irundhaalum solluren.
How many CDs have sold in MSV period?
IR kaalathula, Music-nnu sonnale that is one and only IRthaan. LP records were prominent at time, normally all audio centre have each copy of them, people get it recorded their favourite songs. After the govt. action against these recording centres, cassette sales and CD sales started booming.
Udane, IR ippo koodathaan, music pannuraru andha CD sales-um ARR CD sales-um compare pannunga-nnu solladhe. MSV koodathaan pona varusham oru padam pannunaaru adhai poyi compare panna mudiyuma? Moreover topic is not abot the sales.
Music mouse,
Rajini padathukku endha naai music pottalum 1.2 million sales aagum.
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187)
on: Sun Aug 5 11:30:37 EDT 2001
>>>Rajini padathukku endha naai music pottalum 1.2 million sales aagum.
IR engira naaiuma seththu solreenga.
Manikkanum friends. podhuppadaiya ippadi pesakkudaththu.
Sorry for the offence.
Pozhudhu pogadhavan :
Show restraint.
- From: Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 28.norcross-09rh15rt.ga.dial-access.att.net)
on: Sun Aug 5 16:40:01 EDT 2001
CF,
What I meant was, even if real dog scores music for Rajini film....
- From: S T S (@ 63-93-98-254.oak.dial.netzero.com)
on: Sun Aug 5 20:46:52 EDT 2001
Pozhudhu pogadhavan,
Sabhash :-)
- From: G MAURUTHI (@ 203.197.156.66)
on: Tue Aug 7 04:05:26 EDT 2001
OK OK....
A CONTEST
ARR AND IR PUT MUSIC FOR A WORLD ALBUM ( LEAVE ALONE INDIA )
THE ALBUMS ARE PUT FOR SALE BUT WITHOUT REVEALING WHO COMPOSED THEM...
WHOOSE MUSIC WILL SELL MORE....
HA HA HA... NOW U GET IT GUYZ - THE BETTER OF THE LOT...
- From: Trend (@ dev.hrchally.com)
on: Tue Aug 7 10:04:25 EDT 2001
Pozhudhu pogadhavan,
"Rajini padathukku endha naai music pottalum 1.2 million sales aagum"
Naattukkoru Nallavan surely didn't sell that much.
I don't know if "Mannan" sold that much too.Most of my friends just recorded the song "Amma endru azhaikkaadhe..." among other songs from other movies.Do correct me if I'm wrong.
- From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12)
on: Tue Aug 7 11:46:02 EDT 2001
//"What I meant was, even if real dog scores music for Rajini film...."//
appadinna mathavangellam "poli nayingala".
so that explains why veera, thalapathi sold well its bcoz of rajini not because of dogs!
- From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com)
on: Wed Aug 8 04:39:14 EDT 2001
facts:
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1. pozhudhu has been here long since.
2. pozhudhu, atleast to some extent, knows that there is a feud between IR fans and ARR fans at various levels depending upon the "fan-ablility" of a fan.
assumption:
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1. assume, pozhudhu to be IR fan.
2. having been in this forum long since, pozhudhu knows that he should be careful in saying anything against anybody other than IR because it would be deemed to anti-ARR(be it intensionally told by a IR fan or unintensionally) and get the stamp of IR fanaticism and would get flames(vice versa is also true).
deductions
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1. b4 writing as "any dog" pozhudhu must have thought that his smarter alter-egos would ask -- "is it on ARR?" or say "does it include IR?".
2. So, had pozhudhu wanted to dig at ARR he would have chosen his words carefully and definitely avoided "any dog" kind of statements that could dangerously include IR into it.
3. Hence, pozhudhu's idea was not to have a dig at anybody; infact no specific MD was in his mind when he talked about "any dog"(i guess).
4. But still pozhudhu has fallen prey and has to answer questions like "poli nai" "nija nai" etc.
Bharath,
so that explains why veera, thalapathi sold well its bcoz of rajini not because of dogs!
yeah you are right because:
1) no song sells because of dogs(atleast until now).
2) Also, similarly, muthu, padayappa, annamalai, bassha were sold because of rajini and not because of dogs.
pozhudhu,
now after the last statement of mine, i think you will be left ;-)
- From: eden (@ dialpool-210-214-5-193.maa.sify.net)
on: Wed Aug 8 05:59:15 EDT 2001
Kupps:-)
Despite all the above logics, facts about certain songs are as below (facts means IMO:-)):
konjikkonji, appanE appanE, kAttiloru singakkuttiyAm- can be termed `SPB songs'
AgAyam mElE, ammA endRazhaikkAdha - KJY songs
ponnOvium, kaNmaNiyE, sandhanakkAtRE etc. -IR songs
podhuvAga en manasu, Adi mAsam kAthadikka, nAn dhAndA ippO dEvadAss, adikkudhu kuLiru etc.- Rajini songs:-)
- From: IMF (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Wed Aug 8 06:29:17 EDT 2001
Randu perum illai, it is SPB who gave more hits!!
- From: thirupathi_ellumali_venkatesa (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Wed Aug 8 06:37:56 EDT 2001
Thalaivar Rajni ikku entha madaiyan music panalum athu hit, example (basha, annamali) both by copy cat deva, but all songs for super star sung bu super singer SPB are super dooper hit, regardless of MD.
Thalapathi, veera & ejaman are typcial examples, where SPB sang the majority of songs, but IR was stupid to give all songs to mano in "pandiyan", which was a flop, had SPB sung all songs in "pandiyan", it would have been mega hits, but IR sometimes behaves so foolishly, but ARR used SPB in all his songs for Rajni (at least two songs for spb in each film), hence the reason why all the songs by ARR are mega hit.
But then again ARR was also stupid to use HH,Udit, Srinivas to sign for rajni, which looked stupid cos HH,Udit,Srinivas all lack manly voice!!. Arr should have given all songs to SPB to sign for rajni, cos SPB is the only singer in India with a great manly voice in IFM!!!
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Wed Aug 8 10:45:26 EDT 2001
//"so that explains why veera, thalapathi sold well its bcoz of rajini not because of dogs!
yeah you are right because:
1) no song sells because of dogs(atleast until now).
2) Also, similarly, muthu, padayappa, annamalai, bassha were sold because of rajini and not because of dogs. "//
all the above r extensions of theory pozhudu proposed! in short. pozhudu said it not me!
and
1) i dont agree that any dogs music with rajini wud become a hit. because not all rajinis music have become hit. baasha and arunachalam were horrible IMO.
2)//"Hence, pozhudhu's idea was not to have a dig at anybody; infact no specific MD was in his mind when he talked about "any dog"(i guess). "//
doesnt wash because of this
//"What I meant was, even if real dog scores music for Rajini film...."//
which also explains that pozhuthu started the "neja nai" and was not subjected to it. to set things straight.
finally! Kupps u have listed out psycological assumptions to outline a basic fact that an average man is not stupid! and thinks as wisely as you and me.
if that were true always no one wud commit mistakes and there wud be no arguments. So why do people commit mistakes and disagree?
the answer to this question is the actual answer to pozhuthus statement motive!
- From: mahabs (@ 203.197.138.163)
on: Wed Aug 8 11:16:21 EDT 2001
bharath
i saw in other forums you were arguing "common man is not stupid....."
here, you seem to have changed!
what is your point?
anbudan
mahabs
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Wed Aug 8 11:27:25 EDT 2001
//"here, you seem to have changed"//
nope i havent changed. nothing in my above posting suggests that.
//"assumptions to outline a basic fact that an average man is not stupid"//
by saying *basic fact*. it means that I agree to it also
Hint: common men r different from each other was the point I was trying to make.
pozhuthu pogathavan was trying to decredit sales of rajini movies(IR included). the assumption he had was that IR had a lot on his resume excluding rajini and so by discrediting anything associated with rajini he thought IR wud still remain great but not others.
like kupps said he knew ppl wud shout bak saying IR can also be called dog. But that was the risk pozhuthu i guess was willing to take in order to discredit ARR. he might've thpught that IR's rajini music was good but not IR's great and so I dont care abt rajini movies.
atleast this was how i perceived his posting
- From: Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 69.norcross-09rh16rt.ga.dial-access.att.net)
on: Wed Aug 8 22:35:19 EDT 2001
Kupps,
Good observation.
Again, "Rajini padathukku endha naai music pottalum...." is future tense. So it doesn't applicable to any MD's who scored already.
Udane Bharath maadhiri aalunga 'appo adutha padathukku music poduravan naaya?'nnu keppanga. I really don't care to deny that, because I am sure Rajini-IR combo will never come again.
- From: sabesan (@ adsl-64-160-52-249.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
on: Thu Aug 9 00:43:36 EDT 2001
PP - lol :-)
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Thu Aug 9 10:47:55 EDT 2001
PP,
there wud be 100 people coming out shouting abt ethics and respect if I had said something abt IR and dogs.
solratha solittu ithula enna pontification vera!
//""Rajini padathukku endha naai music pottalum...." is future tense"//
1) its not future tense.
2) ur explanation carefully excludes IR. which means ur prev explanation that it was not directed against a particular MD but all MD's in general doesnt wash.
ARR insult panna thaan sonnen thairiyama othukayen???? u want to express ur opinion harshly but also be politically correct! rendume nadakaathu!
- From: G MAURUTHI (@ 203.197.156.66)
on: Fri Aug 10 00:42:03 EDT 2001
I think some guyz seem to be mistaken...
NOW LET US PUT IT THIS WAY...
WHO HAS GOT MORE FANS IN TAMIL NADU - ARR OR RAJINIKANTH ?
I THINK IT IS ARR
ONLY BECAUSE THESE TWO GET TOGETHER AND DO A FILM, THE CASSETTE SELLS MORE... NOT BECAUSE OF RAJINIKANTH ALONE.
NOW A SIMPLE LOGIC...
IF ARR DOES'NT PUT MUSIC FOR RAJINI FILM, ONLY RAJINI FANS WILL BUY THE CASSETTES AND OTHERS WILL BUY IT AFTER HEARING ITS REVIEWS.
BUT IF ARR COMPOSES THEM, NOT ONLY RAJINI FANS, BUT ALSO ALL OTHERS WHO HAVE PLANNED TO BUY A TAMIL AUDIO CASSETTE, WILL BUY THEM.
THIS I CAN PROOVE BUY SHOWING THE VOLUME OF CASSETTES SOLD BETWEEN ARUNACHALAM AND PADAYAPPA...
AND CASSETTE SALES HAVE MOREOVER GONE DOWN DUE TO MP3 FORMAT.
ONE MORE IMPORTANT THING.
ARR CERTAINLY DOESNT LIKE COPOSING FOR RAJINIKANTH. THIS IS BECAUS RAJINIKANTH ASKS ARR TO COPOSE SONGS ACCORDING TO HIS IMAGE WHICH RIDICULOUSLY SOUNDS LIKE DEVA ( HEAR PADAYAPPA ).
YOU KNOW GUYS HOW IT FEELS WHEN YOU ARE MADE TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT YOU DONT LIKE...
ANYONE TO comment on this...
- From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com)
on: Fri Aug 10 01:50:29 EDT 2001
what an incredible way of comparison...
im trying to extend mauruthi's anology...
IF ARR DOES'NT PUT MUSIC FOR RAJINI FILM, ONLY RAJINI FANS WILL BUY THE CASSETTES AND OTHERS WILL BUY IT AFTER HEARING ITS REVIEWS.
If ARR to act in a movie nobody will go and see even if the media gives a great review for it. But when there even a news that rajini's next movie has started then, believe me, many people try to reserve tickets for them with the rajini rasigar mandram(im not bluffing this happened in the case of arunaachalam and later movie(s) in my hometown and in many places south to it). So in the entire world it is obviously obvious that Rajini has the greatest fan following....
am i right?
btw mauruthi are you interchangingly use rajini to IR (intensionally or unintensionally)? what is the reason to compare ARR with rajini ? How well it supplies info for this thread?
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