Raga of song please
Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.
The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 S R1 R2 R3 G3 M1 M2 P D1 D2 D3 N3 G1 G2 N1 N2
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- From: MGR (@ 199.168.32.6)
on: Tue Nov 20 18:41:39 EST 2001
MS, Thanks for your patient comments. I have the following questions from your posting.
You have mentioned the first 2 as Yeman kalyan. I was thinking Yamen is different from Yamuna Kalyani (the former uses M1,too). Do you say the songs use M1 in them ?
Also, for the 7th number, what is that raagam ? (enoru 50gm kalavainu sollama eruntha seri!)
- From: MGR (@ 199.168.32.6)
on: Tue Nov 20 18:45:20 EST 2001
Reg. the Sendhoora poove, it sounds very close to 'Tere mere beech mein' from Ek dujhe ke liye, which is predominantly in Sivaranjani..though it uses your kalavai raagam with some anya swarams.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.2.102)
on: Tue Nov 20 19:24:55 EST 2001
7th numberukku ragam nu oNNu irukkaradha theiryalai. Jsut a song based on mohanam. avLo dhan.
sendhoorap poove and tere mere beech mein niraiya notes vithyaasam irukku.
- From: CM (@ 128.107.253.41)
on: Tue Nov 20 19:32:47 EST 2001
Guys,
Have u heard the song "endrendrum aanandhame" from kadal meengal. Is it MMG, dont know hwy the violin pieces at the start and in the interludes sound very brilliant. Is it really so is just that Im finding it good as a first time listener. Expert comments awaited. Dholl.com has the song incase u want to hear it.
- From: RR (@ 203.125.148.110)
on: Tue Nov 20 21:39:52 EST 2001
MGR: Looks like a rare miss from Suchitra Lata :)Here's the link.
http://www.themusicmagazine.com/paarthaleparavasam.html
MS: 'en vaanile' is more complex. I think it belongs to a different IR genre :)
- From: RR (@ 192.122.134.249)
on: Thu Nov 22 03:46:01 EST 2001
IR & MS: Is there a smell of 'Mian ki malhar' in 'mun paniya'? Especially when pallavi is repeated the second time after 1st charanam.
- From: prabhu (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Thu Nov 22 04:05:03 EST 2001
hi people,
mun paniya song seem to have inspired from 'poongatrile unswasathai' song (Uyire)...
any one feel it???
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Fri Nov 23 00:17:30 EST 2001
are the songs
deiveega raagam thevittaadha paadal FROM Ullaasa ParavaigaL
and
aavaaram poovu aaraeLu naaLaa FROM Achchamillai Achchamillai
have any similarity in their sandham/raagam/tune etc?
TIA
- From: Kupps (@ )
on: Fri Nov 23 00:19:36 EST 2001
as usual silly grammatical mistake
please read them as "do the songs ... have any" instead of are the songs ... have any".
yeppaththaan thirundha poraeno theriyala :(
- From: prabhu (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Fri Nov 23 07:33:40 EST 2001
check this discussion forum
http://prabhuthemusiclover.myforum.net/index.php3
- From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Fri Nov 23 07:38:25 EST 2001
hi MGR
one great thing about 'Tere mere beech mein' from Ek dujhe ke liye, is that ..raja has used g2 which is very special in sivaranjini.
(in the charanam part... P P D2 S G1 G2 R2 S)
it gives a great feel to the mood of that song...
to my knowledge i haven't heard any other sivaranjini songs which uses G2..
anyone knows any other sivaranjini song which uses G2
- From: RR (@ 192.122.139.222)
on: Fri Nov 23 22:35:03 EST 2001
Prabhu: sivaranjani scale is 'S R2 G2 P D2'. If you are talking about G3, then it's misra sivaranjani touch. There are tons of songs with this touch.
- From: amritha (@ 63.15.52.234)
on: Sat Nov 24 11:32:10 EST 2001
Hi
Does anyone know the raagam in which MS has sung the lakshmi ashtotram (Vandhey padmakaraam, prasannavadanaam)?
Also, there is a famous collection of marriage songs (Manmadanukku maalai, rathna oonjalil aadinaal, kannoonjal aadi irunthaal etc.): who are the singers of that collection?
Thanks
- From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Sun Nov 25 23:15:42 EST 2001
RR
sivaranjini scale: S R2 G1 P D2 S
in sivaranjini itself there is a special usage of G2. some of the sivaranjini Keertanais use G2.
but once the G2 has been used, the keerthanai is supposed to be ended.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.2.102)
on: Mon Nov 26 01:44:04 EST 2001
prabhu: R2 = G1
- From: mandu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Mon Nov 26 09:08:31 EST 2001
vennilave vennilave from 'minsara kanavu'.. what raagam?
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Mon Nov 26 12:06:00 EST 2001
Amritha: Vedhavalli's marriage songs collection.
Sudha Raghunathan has given the collection too.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Mon Nov 26 22:34:20 EST 2001
any answers for the songs daeiveega raagam and aavaram poovu?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Mon Nov 26 23:16:35 EST 2001
hey mandu...welcome back...i saw some ad in tv that says 'andha sivagaami maganidam seidhi solladi' and 'vennilave vennilave' are both same raga (some "sreedhawalagamsi" raaga, whatever...have not been able to locate the swaras/Arohanam/Avarohanam for this strange animal)...
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Tue Nov 27 03:18:30 EST 2001
and kupps, you know who you should be asking.....
- From: mandu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Tue Nov 27 08:31:59 EST 2001
thanks IR_Fan.. will ask my pattu maami about it.
meanwhile.. i shall ask the question i asked before again.. in ilayaraja's 'how to name it'.. what are the other tracks.. i have been trying to trace this particular album for a very long time now...
one more question.. is there any version of bhaja govindam with ALL the verses?
- From: mandu_chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Tue Nov 27 08:55:12 EST 2001
one more question.. plz nobody laff at me .. i am only twenty and have my share of mandu chlorideness...
is there any.. any connection whatsoever between sri thyagaraja.. and .. kattrika?
- From: amritha (@ 63.15.52.130)
on: Tue Nov 27 11:58:39 EST 2001
I am keen to know the ragams for a collection of light classical songs by MS. I know two songs from that list: Nee Irangaa (Keervani) and Yaro ivar yaro (Bhairavi) and I would like to know the rest. The songs are:
1. Vandadum solai
2. Vandeenam
3. Maalai pozhudhinile
4. Jhankaara shruti
5. Kandadhundo kannan pol
6. Oli padaittha kanninai
7. Vaanathin meedhu
This cassette is one of my treasures. It contains favorite songs by many members of my family. "Vandaadum solai" is my mother's favorite, "Jankaara sruthi" is my mother-in-law's favorite and my son ( a toddler) loves to dance to "oli padaittha kanninai". I would be much obliged if anyone could tell me the raagas. Thanks
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Tue Nov 27 12:28:02 EST 2001
Kupps: The two songs sound a bit same to me too. They are not though..
"Ella sivappum ; maalai veyilin " lines(alone) of "Pachai niRamae" (Alaipaayudhae) is closer to "Aavarampoovu" than "deiveega Raagam".
"annakiLi unnai thaedudhae"
"aattukkutti muttai ittu"
--> Karaharapriya raagam
"Deiveega raagam" tune sariyaa ninaivillai. link irukkaa?.
- From: RR (@ 192.122.134.249)
on: Tue Nov 27 21:34:50 EST 2001
amritha:
1. vandaadum solai - harikamboji
7. vaanathin meethu - maand (popular version)
I have to listen to others to confirm.
- From: mandu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Tue Nov 27 23:49:08 EST 2001
is korai ondrum illai kanna in sivaranjini?
- From: RR (@ 203.125.148.110)
on: Wed Nov 28 04:48:46 EST 2001
Mandu: it's ragamalika. sivarajani,kaapi,sindhu bairavi.
- From: mandu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Wed Nov 28 10:49:22 EST 2001
RR... thanks a lot.
i will ask my question again. is there ANY accessible version of the Bhaja Govindam that has ALL the verses in it?
- From: mandu chloride (@ 203.196.129.98)
on: Wed Nov 28 11:55:23 EST 2001
does anyone remember the theme song of 'malgudi days'.. (doordarshan ..once upon a time).. tana na tana nana naaa..
what raagam?
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Wed Nov 28 12:29:40 EST 2001
Amritha :
2. vaNdinam muralum sOlai - Thodi
3. Maalai pozhudhinilae - kaambodhi
4. Jhankaara Shruthi - Poorvi kalyaNi
5. kaNdadhuNdo kaNNan pol - ShankarabaraNam
6. Oli padaitha kaNNinaai (Ragamaalika)
first para - Maand,
Ilaiya baarathathinaai
and kaLai izhandha - kaapi.
Nee iRangaai - AtaaNa
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Wed Nov 28 12:38:39 EST 2001
MC: Theme of Malgudi days is in MOhanam.
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Wed Nov 28 12:42:59 EST 2001
kaNdadhuNdo kaNNan pol - is khamas.
- From: Vidhya (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Wed Nov 28 12:49:25 EST 2001
Links
Maalai pozhudhinilae
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/s/?q=malai&c=0000
KaNdathuNdo kaNnan pol
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/s/?q=kandathundo&c=0000
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Wed Nov 28 12:52:05 EST 2001
I thought 'Maalai pozhudinilae' is raagamalika, is it not? If yes someone please list them. Thanks.
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