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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Bharath (@ 66.140.34.91) on: Tue Jun 18 08:04:12 EDT 2002
  
  KarthikS,
  
  Vetri Vizha was based on bourne identity infact. Surprised! are you... there was a bourne movie released in American HBO network in 1980's which became a hit and was released in theatres.
  
  Vetri vizha was a lift from that movie. Infact even b4 bourne (matt daemon) was released discussions were abuzz that this is the movie of the novel vetri vizha was lifted from.
  
  kamal and sujatha have the knack of holding true the novel even when the english movie deviates from the novel.
  
  moonraker is a good example :-)
  
  but i have to say vetri vizha was a very good movie.
  
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 66.140.34.91) on: Tue Jun 18 08:04:19 EDT 2002
  
  KarthikS,
  
  Vetri Vizha was based on bourne identity infact. Surprised! are you... there was a bourne movie released in American HBO network in 1980's which became a hit and was released in theatres.
  
  Vetri vizha was a lift from that movie. Infact even b4 bourne (matt daemon) was released discussions were abuzz that this is the movie of the novel vetri vizha was lifted from.
  
  kamal and sujatha have the knack of holding true the novel even when the english movie deviates from the novel.
  
  moonraker is a good example :-)
  
  but i have to say vetri vizha was a very good movie.
  
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 66.140.34.91) on: Tue Jun 18 08:06:12 EDT 2002
  
  er.. sorry for the double post
  but it wasnt my fault. i just press "post" once..
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.70.21) on: Tue Jun 18 08:34:37 EDT 2002
  
  double post?
  onnum puriya maattengithupaa. :)
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Tue Jun 18 09:09:25 EDT 2002
  
  Karthik S:
  
  One of coleague made an allegation that the starting instrumental piece of "kala kala vena pozhiyum" song from Rhythm has been lifted from "Mighty young Joe". Kindly find the fact or has it been already documented.
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Tue Jun 18 09:09:34 EDT 2002
  
  Karthik S:
  
  One of colleague made an allegation that the starting instrumental piece of "kala kala vena pozhiyum" song from Rhythm has been lifted from "Mighty young Joe". Kindly find the fact or has it been already documented.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.254) on: Tue Jun 18 09:21:15 EDT 2002
  
  Vetri Vizha was indeed a very well made movie by Pratap & Ashok kumar.
  
  Kane & Abel + As the crow flies (bid scene)+ Rajini s anger on Jayalalitha gives you Annamalai.
  
  There was this movie Makkal En pakkam by Satyaraj.Balaje bought the rights from Malayalam movie Raja Ende magan.It was actually a crude make of Shelton novel.I forgot the name.It came in Kumudam (transalted by Ra.Ki.Rengarajan) as Jennifer.
  
  Day of the JAckal has been raped many a time by Indian movie makers.( eg Managara Kaval ..Some of the dialogues are even from Forsyth s novel).
  
  Suprisingly the movie New delhi (1985)(Mammoty,thyagarajan Urvasi- Mal) seems to have the same knot with the Bond movie with Michelle Yeoh where the villain a media mag creates NEWS.
  
  
• From:
  yar yarai thaan copy pannale,
  
  enna thai copy panne enathai kandu
  
  ellame poi
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.195) on: Tue Jun 18 09:57:37 EDT 2002
  
  OISG,
  
  bond movie where michelle yeoh is a bond girl is "tomorrow never dies"
  
  the premise of the story is . Media man controls and monopolizes most of the western media world and also bribes a chineese general to instigate war between china and UK.
  
  they uyse some satellite thingie to confuse ship navigation and make the crew think they are in international waters when they are not.
  
  
  I think New delhi was a vastly diefferent movie. It was a good movie too.
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 156.153.255.195) on: Tue Jun 18 09:58:08 EDT 2002
  
  and tomorrow never dies is a 1997 release. it was not from any novel
  
  
• From:
  Yar yari thaan copy pannaela
  
  intha vazhve maayam
  
  intha ulage maayam
  
  
• From: sarat (@ 128.192.5.157) on: Tue Jun 18 10:45:26 EDT 2002
  
  OISG
  
  Annamalai was a scene by scene lift of Rakesh Roshan's Khudgarz with Jeetendra,Shatrughan Sinha and Govinda.
  
  And the famous "breaking point" dialogue in Kuruthi Punal is from Shawshank Redemption.
  
  
• From: RS (@ 67.112.201.160) on: Tue Jun 18 10:48:28 EDT 2002
  
  Oisg : The source of Raajavinde magan ( makkal en pakkam in tamil ) is the Novel Rage of Angels by Sidney sheldon.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.44) on: Tue Jun 18 12:57:33 EDT 2002
  
  Bhart RS
  
  Thanx.But the New Delhi times ( good movie indeed) mention was for the knot (Mudichu) only.
  
  Sarat
  
  So Kudgarz was the first inspiration from Kane & Abel.
  
  I vaguely(as usual) remember a telefilm by Mahesh Bhatt Janam had more or less the same story line like Agni Nakshatrm.It came during DD s hey days 84-85...Kumar Gaurav was in the cast.
  But with Mahesh Bhatt s name involved i doubt Janam s originality!
  
  S Kartik ,back to songs copy!
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Wed Jun 19 04:35:00 EDT 2002
  
  OISG, Kudgarz was made from a telugu movie *g Krishnam Raju &Jaya Sudha. This came in the early 80s. This was made as Kudgarz which was remade asannamalai which was again remade with Telugu with Venkatesh. This is called back to square one.
  But the mother of all such copies is a Devar original.
  He made at least seven movies with the same theme.
  first there was Deiva cheyal ( with Major & elephants which flopped)
  This was spurced up with romantic interest as haathi mera sathi which was again made as Nalla neram. four elephants got converted to mother & kid in Maa & then became Annai or AAlayam. I think both these movies had telugu versions making a full total of seven. sorry for digression
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.32) on: Wed Jun 19 12:14:33 EDT 2002
  
  Digression contd..
  
  Apart from the original Deiva cheyal rest were all super hits.Ellam Deiva cheyal!
  
  Read Kamal s conversation with Thevar on this?
  
  End DIG
  
  
• From: Misguided Soul (@ 24.42.184.8) on: Wed Jun 19 20:06:41 EDT 2002
  
  fghfg
  
  
• From: Misguided Soul (@ 24.42.184.8) on: Wed Jun 19 20:07:33 EDT 2002
  
  rtghf
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ 66.176.160.114) on: Wed Jun 19 21:41:35 EDT 2002
  
  New Delhi - almost entirely "based" on Irving Wallace's 'The Almighty'
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.82.238) on: Thu Jun 20 01:54:04 EDT 2002
  
  "Nadhiye" song from "Rhythm"... the 'dheemthanana dheemthanana' part is a recycle of "anbendra mazhayiley" from Minsara Kanavu...!!!
  
  "Pacha kili paadum ooru" - Karuthamma ... the 'kokarakoka kokkokko' humming in-between is recycled from "Hilgorey hilgorey" humming in the song "Poo pookkum osai" - Minsara Kanavu (or vicer versa).
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.82.238) on: Thu Jun 20 01:57:49 EDT 2002
  
  interestingly, ARR is the MD for the above 4 films.. :))
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74) on: Thu Jun 20 02:21:28 EDT 2002
  
  Vj,
  
  four films ? I see only three ? ;-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Jun 20 02:45:59 EDT 2002
  
  Vj,
  
  Whats interesting about ARR being the composer of all the 3/4 films...I suposed we should be surprised only if each film had a different composer!! :-))
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Thu Jun 20 03:17:04 EDT 2002
  
  Thank God that Vj knows TFM and fortunately enough he quoted ARR's songs. My hands are still trembling when the thought "what would have happened when someone goes on pointing out songs (nay song) of SAR", comes to my mind. :-)
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74) on: Thu Jun 20 04:22:09 EDT 2002
  
  SAR to SAR copy is 'quite' common in TFM.,
  
  What about SiRpi's efforts - Listen to his latest albums Unnai Ninaiththu and Varushamellaam Vasantham - I am sure SAR would be proud to get a follower ;-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.197) on: Thu Jun 20 06:36:15 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps
  Heeheehee :)
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 24.156.107.83) on: Thu Jun 20 13:46:10 EDT 2002
  
  Wow, its a fantastic website. It shows how much our musicians are depending on other's music. Thanx to viaktan which published this site in the magazine.
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 24.156.107.83) on: Thu Jun 20 13:49:57 EDT 2002
  
  About S.A.Rajkumar, he copies from his own music. All his songs sound similar especially the rythm and instruments. He should listen to his songs before he compose a new song. No varieties. In Telugu field also it is same.
  
  
• From: Isaipriyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Thu Jun 20 14:29:26 EDT 2002
  
  I thought 'Drovkal' the ompuri starrer which everybody says is the inspiration of 'kuruthipunal' is inspired from the hollywood movie 'Death before dishonour'.Can somebody confirm?
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.79.46) on: Fri Jun 21 00:21:05 EDT 2002
  
  Another one....listen or watch the movie "Raasi" (Ajit, Rambha)on KTV this sunday.. or atleast watch the promos..MD Sirpi.. to the song "Keladi keladi" (Mano and swarnalatha)... the pallavi is exactly the same as "Ennuyirey ennuyirey" from Uyire.. :O
  
  I believe "Raasi" was released long b4 Uyire... ARR taking from Sirpi...???!!!!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri Jun 21 01:12:19 EDT 2002
  
  Vj:
  
  Yes I noticed that. Wonder where both of them took it from!
  
  Also, have added the Panchathanthiram lift in my site.
  
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  
• From: KP (@ 65.238.23.145) on: Sun Jun 23 20:50:10 EDT 2002
  
  First 2 lines of 'pani kaatre pani kaatre'(Run-vidhysagar) sounds very similar to 'kaatile kambang kattile'(Rajakumaaran - IR)
  
  
• From: Rimsky (@ 12.217.64.152) on: Mon Jun 24 17:56:16 EDT 2002
  
  Illayaraja's "chittukku chella chittikku" song
  is inspired (kind of copied!) from Rimsky-Korsakov's "The Story of the Kalender Prince"
  
  
• From: thAngaladAsAmi (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Mon Jun 24 18:51:02 EDT 2002
  
  here is the relevant portion from the scheherazade: http://ra.mmv.ru/RimskyK/Scheherezade/2.ram . here is chittukkuch chellach chittukku http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/moviedetail.asp?mid=T0000112 . find out for yourself.
  
  

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