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Is Vairamuthu better than Kannadaasan?

Topic started by Prabhar (@ ppp45-216.lvsb.vsnl.net.in) on Thu Jul 2 09:40:00 EDT 1998.
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Yes......The greatest joke of the year!
Courtesy: Sivaji Ganesan
Reference: Kungumam weekly.
My opeinon: KD malai yentral VM madu....

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• From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.182.75) on: Fri Jan 24 00:15:38 EST 2003
  
  Paran,
  
  Please never try to joke again.. Its not your thing! 'You trying to joke' is like SS Chandhirasegaran (Vijay's dad) trying to make a good movie. Waste
  
  Laden
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 210.193.13.206) on: Fri Jan 24 00:18:25 EST 2003
  
  Kum_laden officer...ningalum yennai mannichinge saami..
  
  (today is a bad day for me....)
  
  :(
  
  NO more joke...never ever in my life.......ithu unge mella sathiyam..
  
  
• From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.182.75) on: Fri Jan 24 00:32:52 EST 2003
  
  hehehee!
  
  Paran Kannaa
  
  summada i was just 'joking'
  
  nee asathudaa..
  
  
• From: LP (@ 172.164.55.55) on: Fri Jan 24 02:02:10 EST 2003
  
  Kaviperarasu's recent junks:
  
  Junk 1 (Movie: Villain):
  
  What a great way to advise younger generation!!
  
  
  thappu thanda thappu thanda
  thalaiva nee seyya vaa
  veyil padaa idangaLai
  viLaiyaadi thoda vaa
  
  
  
  Junk 2 (Movie: Villain)
  
  Very meaningful song with wonderful kavithai nayam!!
  
  
  maargazhi maathathil kuLir adaithaal
  kambaLi porvaiyil ethu pidikkum
  maarbukkul nee ennai moodi kondaal
  kakkathil paaiginra veppam pidikkum
  
  
  
  Junk 3 (Movie: Pancha thanthiram)
  
  I am confused if VM is writing dialog or song...
  
  
  nam hotel maadi araikku nadanthu chelvom enra pothu
  lift-il chelvom enraai no no no
  
  penne nee lift-il neeLa agalam niraiya irunthm
  otti ninraai chee chee chee
  
  lift-in kathavu thirantha pothum
  lip-ai moodi kidanthathaaru
  neeya illai naana
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Fri Jan 24 04:40:13 EST 2003
  
  Hey come on these are songs for perticular situation and junk tunes...These are not the better way to judge one.
  
  
• From: S.Chandrasekaran (@ 203.145.161.135) on: Fri Jan 24 08:19:42 EST 2003
  
  Hi Guys
  cool it!! we all know that Kannadasan is the best
  and the greatest of them all,
  then why shud we even have a discussion like this.
  But if this is going to enhance Kannadasan, please carry on.
  
  
• From: Sri (@ 162.119.64.100) on: Fri Jan 24 11:23:57 EST 2003
  
  Nandini,
  
  I guess you have heard only VM's songs. Without having enough knowledge about the past you have written a long story.
  
  Below are the list of other excellent poets that were present during Kannadasan's regime (1948-1981).
  
  1. Kothamangalam Subbu
  2. Papanasam Sivan
  3. Kavi Ka.Mu.Sherif
  4. Maayavanaathan
  5. Vaali
  6. Maruthakaasi
  7. Aalankudi Somu
  8. Suratha
  9. Panju Arunachalam
  10. Pulamaipithan
  11. Naa. Kamarasan
  
  Each of the above have written some excellent songs that VM cannot even dream of. However, Kannadasan was the most sought after poet because of his versatility. Until his death he ruled like a king. Every music director, director, actor has/had extreme respect to Kannadasan's talent, that includes his co-poets including VM.
  
  Only Kannadasan can beat Kannadasan. Not the mortals like VM.
  
  
• From: multinamatheyan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Fri Jan 24 12:32:40 EST 2003
  
  "VM using 'english' words for common people who speak tamilish, to understand??" Enna peathal sir idhu? You mean to say tamilish people cannot understand simple tamil words?. "
  
  vaathyaare,
  
  neenga thaane soneega that people could not understand VM's lyrics in Sindu Bairavi. en? athu Thamil illayaa?
  
  inaa saare, same side goal poodureenga?
  
  neenga appo onnu solluveenga ippo onnu solluveenga, aanaa naan solrathu peathala?
  
  jamainga!
  
  
• From: multinamatheyan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Fri Jan 24 12:32:48 EST 2003
  
  "VM using 'english' words for common people who speak tamilish, to understand??" Enna peathal sir idhu? You mean to say tamilish people cannot understand simple tamil words?. "
  
  vaathyaare,
  
  neenga thaane soneega that people could not understand VM's lyrics in Sindu Bairavi. en? athu Thamil illayaa?
  
  inaa saare, same side goal poodureenga?
  
  neenga appo onnu solluveenga ippo onnu solluveenga, aanaa naan solrathu peathala?
  
  jamainga!
  
  
• From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.5) on: Fri Jan 24 13:08:15 EST 2003
  
  multi'post'theyan :-))
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Fri Jan 24 13:43:24 EST 2003
  
  hello muitltheyan sir, I said 'simple tamil words'. Sadjamamenbadhum-m, dhaivadhamenbadhum - m tamizh than but 'simple' tamizha? Ethanai perukku puriyum? -- idhai than naan sonnen sir.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: multinamatheyan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Fri Jan 24 13:56:00 EST 2003
  
  sari vudunga saami,
  
  ithukku munnaadi oruthar 'raasathi en manasu ennthile' endra paatil 'raasaathi', 'manasu' ithelaam 'Thamil' illai endru solli irunthaar.
  
  ivar 'sama kaala ilakkiyam' ethayume padichathileNnu theriyuthu.
  
  neenga enadaanna, simple Thamil engireenga.
  
  oru paadalasiriyar Characterukku eththa polaa thaan paattu ezhutha mudiyum. atha thaan KDyum panninaar. appadi amanja sila paadalkala thaan nanga ippo 'crap songs' ennu azhaga Thamilla solrom.
  
  The disadvantage VM has is, his crap songs are getting overly scrutinized because he is here now. But, KD kaalaththu crap songs have been forgotten by us and we don't tend to look at them. On the other hand, some of Vaali's great songs are credited readily to KD.
  
  See the begining of this thread where Srikanth
  talked at length about a Vaali song all the while admiring KDs imagination.
  
  ithanaala, enga limited arivai vachindu KD-VM sandai podrathu romba thappunnu thoonuthu. amputtuthen.
  
  
• From: LP (@ 172.147.68.184) on: Sat Jan 25 13:08:23 EST 2003
  
  Multi avargaLe,
  
  There are two kinds of junk songs. First one is just junk, however harmless. See Vaali's example below:
  
  thottabetta rOttule muttai parOta - nee thottu koLLa chicken tharatta
  
  Second one is misguiding the younger generation (samuthaayathai seer kulaikkum paadalgaL). VM keeps doing this over and again for money. There are many examples. I really got disturbed with this one below, when many communal clashes are still going on in Tamilnadu:
  thiruppaachi aruvaaLai theetikittu vaada vaada
  
  On the other hand, many of Kavignar Kannadasan's songs have given new dimension to the lives of many. Even though I am not a tamilian by birth, I started loving Tamil so much mainly because of Kannadasan.
  
  
  
• From: s0 (@ 163.181.250.2) on: Sat Jan 25 15:14:57 EST 2003
  
  FYI: VM has been awarded the PadmaShri this year.
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Mon Jan 27 04:12:30 EST 2003
  
  >>>thiruppaachi aruvaaLai theetikittu vaada vaada
  
  Hey the film required that song man. Its about the fight between two village and one village in that was Thiruppachchi. Now in a film about that how can you write about a song about peace on Gulf....
  Taking a song out of context and commenting on that is not right.
  
  
• From: multinamatheyan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Mon Jan 27 12:13:54 EST 2003
  
  Thanks LP for letting me know how many kinds of crap songs there are.
  
  I guess KD songs such as 'oru kopayile en kudiyiruppu', which I consider to be a great song, did not corrupt any young minds. In all fairness, the song was glorification of addiction and promiscuity.
  
  If young people go astray after listening to the second kind of crap songs by VM, why don't they become model citizens after listening to songs like 'ra ra ra rasaiya' by VM?
  
  Do you really believe youngters in TN are that gulible? If so, god save TN.
  
  
  
• From: Sri (@ 162.119.64.100) on: Mon Jan 27 13:47:13 EST 2003
  
  Hi multinamatheyan,
  
  Kannadasan's life was a open book. Many times he told that his life was a bad example. Even, in 'oru kOppaiyile' song, he used the words 'en' 'enakku' words rather than preaching others.
  
  I don't know about LP, but I strongly believe that our people do get affected by movies and songs. Proof: We had/have chief ministers from the cinema field. God save TN!!!
  
  BTW, raa raa raasayya , the #8 song is the inspiration from Kannadasan's 'aaru maname aaru' the #6 song. VM's desire to write a song like Kannadasan.
  
  Regards.
  
  
• From: multinamatheyan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Mon Jan 27 14:54:38 EST 2003
  
  I suppose KDs 'aru maname' was in turn inspired by the nursery rhyme 'one two buckle my shoe'
  
  summa poongappa.
  
  open book close book is not the issue we are arguing. We are only talking about the lyrics of the two not their lives.
  
  
• From: Sri (@ 162.119.64.100) on: Mon Jan 27 16:16:26 EST 2003
  
  I hope you know that, that song depicts Kannadasan's autobiography and more over he himself acted in the movie for that song.
  
  Try something better if you can.
  
  
  
• From: multinamatheyan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Tue Jan 28 17:05:36 EST 2003
  
  Yes I do know that. Besides I have also read 'vana vaasam' and 'mana vaasam' in their entirety about ten years ago.
  
  Now, what was it that you were trying to prove with your statement?...that I, Multinamatheyan, is an idiot who knows only about VMs songs?
  
  Try someone else for that.
  
  
• From: Logic Thinker (@ 219.92.48.28) on: Sat Feb 1 22:37:11 EST 2003
  
  Kannadasan is a King. When a king die, only the prince should b the king. This situation goes to KN n VM. Bcause KN is no longer anymore, VM automaticly bcome kaviperarasu !. Guess wat ? this qoute was said by VM himself in a fuction when he titled as kaviarasu
  
  
• From: Logic Thinker (@ 219.92.48.28) on: Sat Feb 1 22:40:25 EST 2003
  
  Sorry for the grammer n spelling error
  
  
• From: andhi.mazhai (@ ) on: Wed Jul 16 17:32:26 EDT 2003
  
  >>BTW, raa raa raasayya , the #8 song is the inspiration from Kannadasan's 'aaru maname aaru' the #6 song. VM's desire to write a song like Kannadasan. >>
  
  oooppss!! wrong!
  
  That 'raa raa raa rAmaiyA' song was adapted from an older thamizh literary work - 'vivEka chinthAmani'.
  
  That pAdal was :
  
  "Or ettil vaLarAtha vaLarppum
  eer ettil vArAtha kalviyum
  moovettil manavAtha manamum
  nAl ettil SerkkAtha selvamum
  ayi-ettil suRRAtha ulakamum
  Aru-ettil peRAtha keerthiyum
  yEzhu-ettil vArAtha gnAnamum
  ettu-ettil vA enRAl vanthidumO?"
  
  KavipErarasu vairamuthu=vai vimarsanam seivathaRku mun - konjam thamizh ilakkiyam therinthu koLLa muyaRchi seyyungaL! ;-))
  
  
  
• From: xml (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Wed Jul 16 18:35:47 EDT 2003
  
  This Vairamuthu and the superstar rajinikanth are the craps in the world.
  
  They simply ask "pullu kodutha palu kodukkum vunnala mudiyathu thabi". They are asking this to a boy.Ofcourse cow eats grass and can give milk.Is there any logic. If the boy ask to the cow "can you walk with two legs like me" then what will be the answer from the cow?.
  
  

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