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Karthikeyan Nagarajan | April 24, 2004 11:12 IST
http://in.rediff.com/movies/2004/apr/24rahman.htm
When I heard that the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra had asked A R Rahman to conduct two live concerts in March this year, I was very happy and proud as an Indian and a Tamilian.
Earlier, I had felt proud in 1993 when Ilayaraja had recorded his first classical orchestral work with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra of London. I was executive producer of that project.
It was Ilayaraja's first full-fledged classical work and it was recorded under the baton of John Scott. Unfortunately, Ilayaraja has still not released that work.
Hence to know that another composer from our midst has come to the world music arena was thrilling news. Rarely do musicians from our part of the world get such an opportunity.
But it was a big fiasco.
Rahman's popular film songs were converted into orchestral scores to be played by a classical symphony orchestra. They proved to be pale shadows of his original songs. And the predominantly Indian crowd did not appreciate them much.
It was obvious that not much thought had gone into the score. The objective should have been to retain the original melodic flavour suited to a symphony orchestra without electronic instruments and vocals.
Greater disappointment was his total non-preparation for conducting on stage. I consider that highly irresponsible. If Rahman thought conducting a symphony orchestra in concert was similar to a studio session, the people who risked allowing him to do it should be blamed.
I am surprised he has not fully understood the importance of the role of a conductor in a classical symphony orchestra.
Conducting is one of the most important aspects in a classical orchestra's live performance. People like Zubin Mehta have not become legends for nothing. Zubin is one of those rare talents who will conduct even the most difficult and complex symphonies like Mahler's 8th Symphony -- called the Symphony of a Thousand because Mahler's original debut concert required nearly 1,000 performers-musicians and choral groups -- without once referring to the score. Every bar of music is conducted from his memory, with total control and confidence of the orchestra.
As someone who has spent a lot of time on the UK music circuit over the last few years, I assumed Rahman would have done his homework and prepared the music as well as for his new role as conductor of a live concert, that too with a top-notch orchestra like the CBSO.
Rahman should have reminded himself that he was going to wield the baton of Sir Simon Rattle, who became CBSO conductor at 25 (in 1980) and made it one of the best orchestras in the world.
As a BBC reviewer wrote, "I cannot help feeling cheated by the concert. Though the orchestra were highly organised, Rahman seemed slightly uninterested to be there. Audience reactions were also mixed. The audiences were given opportunity to ask him questions to which he often replied with one-word answers. Rahman did conduct the orchestra for a short period, but later sat back with the audience and watched another conduct his music."
As with anywhere else in the West, most orchestras are going through a difficult time with dwindling concert attendances and slow music sales. Add to this the problem of population remix among local patrons.
By 2020, for example, Birmingham is tipped to become the first black majority city in UK. Now, its population is a mix of Asians, Africans and Chinese apart from the native whites.
Hence, orchestras are ready to try anything to bring people into the concert halls. And collaborations with musicians from Asia, titled Classic Asia, are part of the mission.
For the 84 year-old CBSO, it must have been a momentous, difficult decision. They took it because their survival depends on their ability to chart new paths.
With his exposure to the UK music industry through his collaboration with Andrew Lloyd Webber, it was not a surprise that Rahman got the project.
But his botching it up is.
I believe Rahman has not been able to transcend the barrier where his own singing and others are vital for his musical pieces. Obviously, there is an inability to compose music free of the composer/performer. He seems to have attempted something for which he is not yet ready intellectually.
In the end it was totally disappointing.
Rahman's confession -- "I messed it up. Will come next time with much more preparation" -- does not redeem him at all.
Karthikeyan Nagarajan is a Chennai-based software technologist.
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- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.104)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:24:48 EDT 2004
Yeah...am suspecting that ambleen is a bot unleashed by some anti-ARR group,from morning it keeps on repeating same question,and never understands our answers.
Konjam buthiyulla bot senju irukalaam.:-)
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.118)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:26:35 EDT 2004
cp,
Arr = mozart = taal
how do you compare human beings to a product?
cp = jacky = maruti zen? :)
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:31:05 EDT 2004
lol @ jacky
To add some more.
Manivannan=Balakumaran=Beard
Veerappan=Devaram=Meesai?
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:31:47 EDT 2004
Jacky,
Possible.
Naatamai = Thundu
:-)
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:32:45 EDT 2004
xml=garbage (collected by garbage collector)
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.104)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:33:04 EDT 2004
Jacky..
That involves very complex theorems..you have to take Pythagorus theorem,mix it with Darwins theory..then have to do some integration,differentiation...apply cos theta,sin theta....then add ..multiply....
Indha logic kellam,Ambleen maari 'Arivu kozhuthugal' kku thaan puriyum.Namma yedho nalla music kaekaraa makkal,enna puriyum.
Ambleen will explain...nama teacher who put marks like 1/10 and all for our answers.
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.118)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:33:14 EDT 2004
Ferrari,
Karthalenthu try harder 1/10 nu sollrarey, avar GF avar kitta pesarthellam en enga vanthu solrar.
Ne poriyara mari sollu nama ellarum samathunu :)
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:33:42 EDT 2004
C~P=Paran=Trisha~Fan
Usha Uthup=Khaitan=Fan ??
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.118)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:34:46 EDT 2004
Thamizan,
Athan archimedes mari eurekha eurekha nu vandutar pola birthday suite la :)
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.104)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:34:55 EDT 2004
xml...Adhu yaaru..namma friend a ..foe vaa?:-)
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:35:17 EDT 2004
avanukku pizzaa saapda thempu illai apapdinu nenaikaren
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:36:37 EDT 2004
seri seri..admin vandhu nammala oru vazhi panniduvar.
andha persian song with innum konjam details kandu pidinga Jacky. Take C~P's help as well
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.104)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:37:11 EDT 2004
Ayoh,onnum puriyalai...
Yaaru Archimedes?Ambleen a paa?
Pizza sapdradhu..confusion...
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:37:27 EDT 2004
xml yaaruna theriyaadha? Appappo ARR thitti thread onnu start aagum newtfmpage-la. Romba sensible threads like...
******
Bharadwaj is ahead of ARR.
Courtesy : Sun TV Top 10 rating
*****
Idhukkellam yaar kaaranam-nu nenachuttu irukeenga? Saakshaath xml dhaan!
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.118)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:38:56 EDT 2004
Thamizan,
Ithan team work, ask Ferr he will tell you the magimai of pizza.
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.104)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:39:54 EDT 2004
Appadiyaa sangathi?
//Bharadwaj is ahead of ARR.
Courtesy : Sun TV Top 10 rating //
Hahaha,appa comedy a time pass aavumnu sollunga.:-)
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:40:02 EDT 2004
Pizza is good :-)
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.118)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:40:26 EDT 2004
Ethu ferrari,
Persian song.... IR pottarey superah sexy song thathom thakadimi thom thom kadal kavithaila?
:)
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.118)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:41:45 EDT 2004
CP,
Neeyum pizza sapadariya?
Adutha meet la neraya pesanom :)
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:42:04 EDT 2004
Thamizhan,
Idhula enna kodumai-na andha rating-la ManiSharma was ahead of IR!! :-))
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.104)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:42:15 EDT 2004
Ferrari,Neenga Pizza kadhai sollunga..
Adhukkulla Jacky ,C~P will find the link abt Persian song...hoping that to materialise.
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:42:58 EDT 2004
Jacky,
Unga alavukku ellam Pizza paththi pesa mudiyaadhu. Chinna~Payyan image enna aagardhu?! :-)
- From: thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.104)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:46:07 EDT 2004
Neenga vaera C~P,inga Dheena ve high rating la irundharey...
You SUNTV..Super 10 rating ..one day was like this..
10th place..Anarkali from KKS(Porikki pasangallaaa.)
5th place..Omma ommma ommaa ommaa from Adithadi...by 'Isai bhrama Deva'.(poster la apdi thaan irudhadhu)
Indha koothai enga poi solla...
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:46:21 EDT 2004
Persian song-a? newtfmpage-la ennatha paththi pesittu irukeenga? Thamizh ketta vaarthai dhaan Persian-nu solreengala? Namma Maverick kooda meet-la "Baby Baby" paatoda lyrics ellam sonnaru. Romba anubavichu ezhuthirukaanga pola.
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:46:28 EDT 2004
But according to me Pizza is like thayir sadham.
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