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- From: SP (@ 65.69.81.2)
on: Fri Sep 17 10:46:48 EDT 2004
don't tell me it's a single song :-)
- From: eden (@ 136.1.1.101)
on: Fri Sep 17 14:00:09 EDT 2004
SP, it's a single song, unfortunately:-))
I too used to love the SJ portion so much and got turned off with the not-so-authentic country stuff in the later part of the song.
This was one of the very few cinema disks in our school and got played frequently during the functions. (poNNukku thanga manasu was another disk with the evergreen `thEn sindhudhE vAnam')...these were probably the songs which influenced my impressionable childhood mind to lop up annakkiLi and all those followed later...to make SJ my all-time fav singer...
- From: Udhaya (@ 63.203.197.130)
on: Fri Sep 17 14:19:58 EDT 2004
aah nenju porukkuthillaiyae. I nominated this song as a tribute to VB, inga paatha ellaarum SJ thuthi paadringa. I can't believe I set the stage up to get accolades for SJ my least favorite singer in the universe. Without the TMS part there won't be anything original in this song, it will be a generic inoffensive melody. Good thing we all agree on the pallavi.
- From: thumburu (@ 83.89.145.50)
on: Fri Sep 17 15:25:12 EDT 2004
Udhaya,nethikke ungalukku sema dose kuduthirukken SJ twisted voice threadla. Adhukku unga badhil ennavo? :)
- From: eden (@ 136.1.1.101)
on: Fri Sep 17 18:29:10 EDT 2004
Udhaya:-)
I was only too happy to agree with bb on this song..I love VB's music and TMS's masculine voice most of the times too...
- From: Udhaya (@ 63.203.197.130)
on: Fri Sep 17 20:08:21 EDT 2004
thumburu,
If this can be likened to sema dose, I wonder how you'll categorize some of the archived threads. This is no studied reasoning or accrued taste. Along with SOTD there are other songs I like despite SJ. But there's not one song by her that I haven't wished for someone better to sing. My problem is with her basic timbre, tonality, or whatever technical word there is for that. Couple of seconds of her voice, it just sets me on edge and pollutes my peace. SJ wanting to sing is like an ant wanting to fly. Her voice is naturally incompatible with singing. She splinters the language and music as if the transmission suffers through a rusted pipe. kutRAlaththai vadichu corporation kuzhaikuLLa vitta maadhiri kodumai. Her technical prowess, amazing gamakams, effortless delivery, all of this matter zilch to me when her voice is basically unbearable. I think you get an idea of my stance.
Sorry for the indulgence. If this post is removed out of kindness to SJ fans or to prevent digressions. I don't mind.
- From: thumburu (@ 83.89.145.50)
on: Sat Sep 18 04:24:29 EDT 2004
Udhaya, so, ungalukku maampazham pidikkaadhu.(Kumudham arasu likened SJ/PS/VJ's voice to maa, palaa, vaazhai) Neengalum namba OISG maadhiri nice aa ujaalaa kku maaruveenga nnu nenaichadhu thappaa pocche :)[OISG adikka odi varaar. naan ambel)
- From: OISG (@ 213.42.2.27)
on: Sun Sep 19 01:18:22 EDT 2004
Thumburu, for my answer pls check V Kumar thread!))
But this song is purely a VB-coded classic and TMS's voice brings you down to the earth with a thud but that was the whole idea of this song is about.SJ sounds too sophisticated and urban even for "Downla college padikkira paNNayaroda poNNU" and more so for the rat-faced JC.Something in line with Udhaya.....Yes!SJ could have underplayed.
Periya idathu peN,Savale samaLi,Pattikada pattaNama,Poova thalaya ,SKV hmm.....we have tamed the shrew enough and it s dead now.
- From: pANdiyan (@ 136.2.1.101)
on: Sun Sep 19 13:44:16 EDT 2004
OISG, ippOllAm `down' americA Ayuduchchu...(padayappA:-))
- From: isaiosai (@ 68.231.12.84)
on: Sun Sep 19 14:32:39 EDT 2004
DIG:
Udhaya,
"aah nenju porukkuthillaiyae" - unmai thaangaadha oru nenjam edharku?
You should probably meet up with PS and express your opinion about SJ verbatim. PS's reply then will probably make you realize how good/bad a singer SJ is...or PS is:)
Hope that doesn't make you dump both SJ and PS...to join "the" bHajana mandali;-)
END DIG
Back to music class...
- From: Da Vinci (@ 24.194.148.121)
on: Sun Sep 19 15:32:06 EDT 2004
'iLamai...' was a beautiful song, though TMS's voice wasn't the perfect fit to the variation in the tune.
- From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57)
on: Mon Sep 20 02:05:32 EDT 2004
Folks, have a look here:
http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/8893.02.03.20.html
- From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74)
on: Mon Sep 20 10:59:07 EDT 2004
bb,
nice and superb compilation from the treasure.
i am sure our beloved SPB would have definitely liked to listen to these songs and read our experts' writeups.
In the PDF, i wish you could have given a list of abbreviated words we use in our forum with their expansion so that he would not have to spend time to decipher what those abbreviations meant.
- From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57)
on: Mon Sep 20 11:29:35 EDT 2004
Yeah, I didn't spend much time editing the posts and make it very coherent. That would have taken up a lot of time...
- From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57)
on: Mon Sep 20 11:53:11 EDT 2004
a response to "anbil malarndha nal rOja":
I have been searching for this song for about an year.
My MIL sang this to my son to make him sleep when he was born last year. For a while i thought it was a carnatic music song(i am sure it is based off of a raga) , little did i know that it is such a classic piece from an old tamil movie. I have learned to re-appreciate the melodius voice of susheela. Great job Thanks for posting this song
Meena
- From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57)
on: Tue Sep 21 01:42:06 EDT 2004
Song of the Day: Oh Devadas from Devadas.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/ohdevadas.rm
- Sung by Ghantasala and Jikki. Music by C.R.Subbaraman.
- Telugucinema.com has a good page on this famous movie *ing Nageswara Rao and Savithri: http://www.telugucinema.com/c/movies/Devadas_1953.shtml
- Influence of Telugu Film Music on TFM: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/29635.15:31:27.html
- Project Ghantasala: http://www.ghantasala.info/
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 61.16.168.131)
on: Tue Sep 21 03:31:24 EDT 2004
C.R.Subbaraman was the original music director. Unfortunately he passed away in between and it was M.S.Viswanathan who had finished the musical score for this movie. The same thing happened with the movie Chandirani also. But I dont know who is the original composor of this particular song. Anyway it is a wonderful song.
- From: bb (@ 64.181.143.2)
on: Tue Sep 21 12:50:19 EDT 2004
G.Raghavan, I thought it was Ghantasala himself who completed the score.
- From: a.a. (@ 207.245.221.226)
on: Tue Sep 21 12:59:37 EDT 2004
Isn't it by Gantasala and K.Rani?
- From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89)
on: Tue Sep 21 14:10:54 EDT 2004
a.a : I saw this movie in 1953 when it was released. If I remember correctly, there were two versions of this song, one when they were kids and the other featured in SOTD. It is quite possible that the first version was sung by Rani. The voice in the SOTD version sounds like Jikki even though I am not sure. It may be the recording quality!
bb: Nice song. Brings back memories of my days in Mayavaram. Ulage maayam was probably the most popular Devadas song. Lyrics by Tanjai Ramaiahdas.
- From: Udhaya (@ 63.203.197.130)
on: Tue Sep 21 20:43:01 EDT 2004
isaiosai,
Why is it so hard for people to understand that taste differs? Why is it so hard to believe that my likes and dislikes do not depend on anyone else's opinion but my own? Even if PS insists that she is nothing compared to SJ, my reply would be, perhaps, but I still prefer your voice over hers.
Go ahead and enjoy SJ all you want. I wish I can gain that satisfaction too, I wish I could enjoy the thousands that she sang, I'm not able to.
- From: hehehewalrus (@ 130.127.119.175)
on: Tue Sep 21 21:36:38 EDT 2004
wow! what a pleasure it is to listen to Padi va thendrale after all these years. thanks bb :)
- From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57)
on: Tue Sep 21 22:32:09 EDT 2004
Song of the Day: malarO nilavO malaimagaLO from raga bandhangaL.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/malaro.rm
- Saravanan writes:
Sung by P.Jayachandran. Lyrics by Kannadasan. Music by Kunnakkudi Vaidhyanathan.
* * * *
It has been a matter of ceaseless wonder to me that so little is known about a film whose songs found abundant airtime on either shore of the Palk Strait throughout the 80s. A tattered record sleeve relegated to a grimy alcove of a recording center gave forth this information: raga bandhangaL (1982/ Venus Art Creations) was produced and directed by P.Ramachandran. It also displayed a sepia- tinged image of an obscure actress bedecked in traditional dance attire.
The title, and the songs too, suggest a love story with classical music and dance interwoven into the canvas, inspired probably by the trailblazing Shankarabharanam. Perhaps the newcomers in the cast couldn’t acquit themselves well enough, or maybe the storyline itself was unconvincing, for the film seems to have been dismissed back to the cans without much ado. Nevertheless, the film deserves a glowing mention in the annals of tfm for it boasts of a grand album, each of the 9 songs sculpted with painstaking care by the maverick music-smith. The singers were an ingenious assortment of the celebrated and the inconspicuous.
‘gOvardhanan vandhaan kuzhal eduthu’, (Kannadasan) with a splendid flute recital by Nanjappa, is an exacting classic that only VJ could do justice to. ‘nalam tharuvaai en thaayE meenakshi’ (KJY/ Tiruchi Bharathan), imaginatively adapted from ‘jagath janani’, is a song to be cherished with awe. SPB and VJ lift the remarkable music lesson ‘sarigamapadhani enum sapthaswara jaalam’ (Poovai Senguttuvan) to epic proportions. The traditional ‘koovina poonkuyil koovina kOzhi’ finds soulful depiction by Chandrika. The genius of Kunnakkudi Vaidhyanathan is evidenced in the brilliant ragamalika ‘naan paadum paadalukku swaram solla mudiyuma’ (Nellai Arulmani), where T.L.Maharajan finds astute notes for the intricate lines sung effortlessly by SJ. Kudanthai Gajendran ushers in an air of melancholy in his rendition of Bharathiar’s ‘thooNdiR puzhuvinaippOl’. If there is one song in tfm that T.L.Maharajan can look back with justifiable pride, it is the virutham ‘aadhaara sruthiyOdu paadharavindham’ that progresses to the breathtaking ‘umayaaLin thirupaadham nadamidumE’ (Kannadasan). For those who dismiss with disdain Kunnakkudi Vaidhayanathan’s singing efforts citing thOdi ragam’s ‘kottampatti rOtilE’, his poignant ‘yaar sollai kEtpathendRu kanni manam thavikkuthu’ (Udayaraja) in this film would come as a revelation. And, of course, ‘malarO nilavO malaimagaLO’, the SOTD, deserves exceptional mention. What an exquisite, rich album!
* * * *
Kunnakkudi Ramaswami Vaidhyanathan (born 1935) started working as a violinist in Modern Theatres in the late 40s; his prowess on the violin there elicited high praise from even GR. Not surprising, considering that KV had played the violin for the revered Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Aiyangar at the tender age of 11! KV also accompanied the Soolamangalam Sisters and later Seergazhi Govindarajan in their concerts. It was APN who hastened KV’s re-entry into tfm by incorporating KV’s ‘thiruppankundRathil nee sirithaal’ into kandan karuNai. And when APN fell out with KVM, it was Kunnakkudi Vaithyanathan he turned to. Starting from vaa raja vaa (1969), KV commenced his chequered career as a music director. Recognition came soon enough; he bagged the TN State Government Award for the Best Music Director in 1970 for his score in thirumalai thenkumari. He composed music for around 22 films, two of them (padhinettaam padi & ulaa vandha nila) remaining unreleased.
While it is so easy to pour scorn on KV’s work in films like kaNkaatchi, vaazhaiyadi vaazhai, raja raja chOzhan and navarathiNam; his achievements in deivam, thiruvaruL, raga bandhangaL and thOdi ragam stand timeless testimony to his profound talents. ‘aasai manathil kOttai katti’, ‘vendRiduvEn, naataiyum naadhathaal vendRiduvEn’, ‘yEduthandhaanadi thillaiyilE’, ‘ezhudhi ezhudhi pazhagi vandhEn’, ‘kaavalukku vEluNdu’, ‘muththamzhil paada vandhEn’, ‘life is a flower’ are all silken threads that wove themselves vibrantly into the rich tapestry of tfm in the 70s.
* * * *
Jayachandran pointed to this song unhesitatingly when, in an interview, he was queried about the most challenging song that came his way in tfm. Listening to it, we would agree, for the complex creation conceived by KV blossoms into an unforgettable hindOLam in JC’s maestoso rendition.
- From: sn (@ 24.214.30.203)
on: Tue Sep 21 23:54:14 EDT 2004
what a wonderful rendition...i could'nt stop from repeating "malaro nilavo.."...truly painstaking effort by Jayachandran behind this song.
well a little bit late for the 'paadi vaa thendrale'. it was a suprising to believe that jayachandran had sung the song. the song sounds faintly coincidental to "yerikkarai poongatre" song in "thooral ninnu pochu" at some places.
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