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songs having BRILLIANT STARTS

Topic started by vijay (@ 129.252.22.246) on Thu Oct 15 12:16:21 EDT 1998.
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i was listening to 'mella mella ennai thottu' from vaazhkai and that inspired me to start this topic. more often than not the tempo of a song is determined by the start the song is given. in the above song raja brilliantly combines a violin with percussion to set the rhythm .

iam looking for songs that have a brilliant starting piece which sets the flow for the song.

examples can include raakamma, shubalekha(telugu), etc. the songs need not be fast paced. for example 'poove sempoove' has a melodious but a good start, IMO. looking forward to u'r contributions.

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• From: Shankar Ramakrishnan (@ sdn-ts-007casjosp06.dialsprint.net) on: Wed Oct 28 03:20:35 EST 1998
  
  The *worst* start is "Wish you a happy new year" in Sagala Kala Vallavan. Madras DD used to show it as a rule for every New Year. What a damper!
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Oct 28 03:29:07 EST 1998
  
  Shankar Ramakrishnan,
  please add an "IMO" when u write postings as above.
  
  
• From: krishna (@ 1cust252.tnt2.phl1.da.uu.net) on: Sat Oct 31 22:37:00 EST 1998
  
  i would like to add these songs with brilliant starts:
  
  The violin and veena start before Andhapurathil oru maharani from Deepam
  The music before Sinorita song in Johnny
  The guitar music before Baby song from kaali
  The humming before adiyadu poongiliye from Kaali
  The humming before poonoviyam song in kazhugu
  The humming"panimali ezhudiya uravin kuzhandigal naangal' before andhimazhai song in Raja parvai
  The satrting music of all songs in Nizhalgal
  The starting music of konji konji from Veera
  
  of the latest one the humming before edho from Manam Virumbuthe unnai..
  
  I am not sure I can list all of the brilliant starts IR has given
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Sun Nov 1 07:26:26 EST 1998
  
  krishna,
  u missed out kaathal ennum koil katti vaiththaen nenjil from kazhugu. has one of the finest starts i have heard. putham puthu kaalai also has a great flute start.
  
  
• From: nTV (@ inet32.us.oracle.com) on: Thu Nov 5 14:27:19 EST 1998
  
  Guys,
  
  How about 'Innum ennai enna seyya pogiraay' from Singaravelan?
  
  -nTV
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ tide79.microsoft.com) on: Fri Nov 6 20:53:51 EST 1998
  
  Few of my favorites
  
  Kadhal kavithaigal padithidum neram..
  
  Ponmalai pozhudhu..
  
  Ravi
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ 202-0-98.ipt.aol.com) on: Sun Nov 8 00:06:17 EST 1998
  
  Shankar Ramakrishnan:
  IMHO, the honor of having the worst start belongs to "Yen Vaanile" - courtesy, Jency's "No, No, No, No, No ! Just listennnn" :-)))) Well, I know apart from that the song has a rather pleasant beginning and the rest of it is simply incredible! But I just could resist that dig at Jency's accent :-)))
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.172) on: Mon Nov 9 08:00:45 EST 1998
  
  Srinath,
  
  If you observe closely, she says, "JUZD LIZZENNNNN". It's very funny. Nevertheless, that alone doesn't qualify the song to belong to this category of WORST STARTS, in my opinion.
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.172) on: Mon Nov 9 08:17:41 EST 1998
  
  Aruna Kirana from Guru (one of the longest, and very effective preludes that IR has composed)
  
  Malargale (Love Birds); the mood and flow of the song is very well highlighted by ARR in this prelude.
  
  Oh Butterfly (Meera): An interesting beginning. However, the lyricist could have easily avoided the term Butterfly; it sounds awful in this beautiful composition, especially, Asha's accent.
  
  Kaadal Kavidaigal (Gopura Vaasalile)
  
  Poo Maalaye (Pagal Nilavu)
  
  Ilamai Ennum Poongaatru (Pagalil Oru Iravu)
  
  Naru Mugaye (Iruvar)
  
  Minminikku from Sigappu Rojakkal has a very nice start too.
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Mon Nov 9 09:09:13 EST 1998
  
  
  
  nAnE nAnA yArO dhAnA from azhagE unnai ArAdhikkirEn.
  nAn ennum pozhudhu from azhiyAdha kOlangaL.has a prelude for almost 40 seconds.
  U start feeling that it's a instrumental!!!
  poo vaNNam pOla nenjam from azhiyAdha kolangaL
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.28.73) on: Mon Nov 9 19:23:34 EST 1998
  
  Neels,
  whatever songs u have mentioned occupy top places in my list!!! especially songs like poomalaiye...
  
  
• From: IR_fan (@ 131.247.7.4) on: Tue Nov 10 00:00:11 EST 1998
  
  The song Chandiranum from Avataram has a great start..
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue Nov 10 21:24:49 EST 1998
  
  my favorite great starts:
  -adadaa idhuthaan sugamoa (twinkling synth sounds with halting tabla beats)
  -thanni karuththeerukku (pounding melam beats with quirky strings)
  -puththam puthu kaalai (atmospheric synth accompanied by a heavenly chorus)
  -vasandha kaala nadhigalilae (harmonica with flute and violins)
  -kodai kaala kaatrae (a muffled flute sound, probably from a synth)
  -aasaiyak kaaththula thoodhu vittu (amazing beats with the chorus sounding like some exotic tribe's mating call)
  -malargal nanaindhana paniyaalae (the austerity of the quiet morning conveyed with just flute and violins)
  -bhaarathi kannamma (the happiest violin intro I've ever heard in TFM coupled with great humming by spb and psuseela)
  -aaththu maettula oru paattu (enchanting flute and table intro)
  -niththam niththam en nenjoadu (great aalabanai by msv to launch this mesmeric tune)
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-89-17.sprint.ca) on: Wed Nov 11 01:02:32 EST 1998
  
  I think that one song that had an excellent beginning was "Thanga Magan inru Singa Nadai Podu arukil arukil vanthaan" sung by Chitra and Yesudas in Baadsha. When I heard the beginning I was totally impressed. But like "Rakamma Kaiya Thatu" this song also changes when they start to sing. It was so rich when they started off, with a lot of rich sounds and then in the middle it becomes like any other normal love song. But I have to say that the Charanam is great. Congrats to the singers as Srikanth once said.
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Nov 11 03:12:14 EST 1998
  
  manadhil enna ninaivugaLo from poonthaLir has a great Base guitar prelude.
  sinna puRA onru (anbE sangeetha)
  iLam pani thuLir vidum nEram ( ArAdhanai)
  manjaL nilAvukku inru orE sugam (mudal iravu)
  
  
• From: raja (@ spider-we053.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Nov 11 12:59:18 EST 1998
  
  Udhaya:
  
  I think Bharati Kannamma (Ninaithale Inikkum) was sung by SPB and Vani Jairam.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Wed Nov 11 14:25:46 EST 1998
  
  Thanks raja, that's news to me.
  
  
• From: shyam (@ shyamc.qualcomm.com) on: Wed Nov 11 17:24:19 EST 1998
  
  Aruvi:
  I believe "Thanga Magan Indru" begins with some western classical composition - typical "Devaa" touch. So, the credit goes to Beethoven/Mozart/Bach, or whoever it is.
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ prsyb112-30.splitrock.net) on: Thu Nov 12 01:17:38 EST 1998
  
  IMO, the following figure in great starts category :
  1)aagaya gangai from dharmayudham
  2)rakkamma kaiyathattu from thalapathi
  3)oruvan oruvan mudhalali from muthu
  4)song form sippikkul muthu...radhika teaches kamal on the banks of river..sorry don' remember the lyrics in tamil...
  5)azhagu from baasha..i guess it was lift from a old hindi song..
  6)paandiyanin rajiyathil from pandian
  7)neelavaana odaiyil from vaazhve maayam
  8)malarndhum malaraadha from paasamalar
  9)maadhathile from veera
  10)adho andha paravaipola from aayirathil oruvan
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Thu Nov 12 06:49:31 EST 1998
  
  Bharath,
  is no 4 in ur list thuLLi thuLLi nee pAdammA????
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Thu Nov 12 08:47:54 EST 1998
  
  some songs which have BRILLIANT starts are:
  poondhalir aada (schoolboy infatuation aptly reflected in a guitar(?) opening, followed by a beautiful bango crowned by amazing chorus)
  om namaha (terminally ill lovers kissing passionately, haunting drum opening, sounding like a heartbeat, and mano takes off with
  his humming)
  chinna kannan azhaikkiraan (pastoral flute, santoor wizardry, followed by flute-tabla)
  radha radha nee enge (pure romantic, overlapping male and female voices, leading to a grand violin piece, and then tabla and flute, and then violin again)
  thoongaatha vizhigal rendu (racy synth., chorus humming and enter SJ, what else can u ask for)
  vaa vaa anbe anbe (awesome guitar start, and the keyboards take over only to be overwhelmed by flute, and then violin)
  digression: agni natchathiram was a landmark for IR in that he did not use any indian instrument.
  back to BRILLIANT starts
  one of the greatest songs which had one of the greatest starts i have ever heard: en uyir thozhi keloru sethi, from karnan. one of the few songs that qualify for any adjective. the sitar opening
  is so evocative of the splendour of regal romances. of course, the lyrics are the jewel in the crown, and need i mention P.Suseela's celestial singing, esp. when she sings that aalaabanai (is that the right term?) after "aranmanai arivaan, ariyanai arivaan", a clever punctuation before continuing "anthappuram
  onru iruppadhai ariyaan". this song kills me every time i hear it, IMHO, the song of the century.
  
  
• From: Raju (@ pcthnt142.lgu.ac.uk) on: Tue Nov 17 15:35:09 EST 1998
  
  Chandirane sooriyane from 1992.jesudas sings it.
  I even got the poster.name?
  saarasam from Krishna Leela..1948? p.u.Chinapa.
  Both these songs, I switch off the lights and
  erm...pretend. I'm sure you all do.
  
  
• From: srinath (@ m40.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Sun Nov 22 12:09:52 EST 1998
  
  hi,
  
  certain songs which i think have brilliant starts
  
  oru kunguma chengamalam- aradhanai
  kannukum kannukkum modhal -ninnaika therintha maname
  sandathil pdatha kavithagal- auto raja
  uravennum puthiya vanil- nenjathai killathe
  nilavu thungum neram- kunguma chimizh
  pesa kudathu- adutha varisu
  kalaiyilum malaiyilum - puthusa padikkiren pattu
  kadhal oviyam- alaigal oyivathillai
  devanin kovil- aruvadai naal
  
  srinath
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: srinath (@ m40.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Sun Nov 22 12:10:16 EST 1998
  
  hi,
  
  certain songs which i think have brilliant starts
  
  oru kunguma chengamalam- aradhanai
  kannukum kannukkum modhal -ninnaika therintha maname
  sandathil pdatha kavithagal- auto raja
  uravennum puthiya vanil- nenjathai killathe
  nilavu thungum neram- kunguma chimizh
  pesa kudathu- adutha varisu
  kalaiyilum malaiyilum - puthusa padikkiren pattu
  kadhal oviyam- alaigal oyivathillai
  devanin kovil- aruvadai naal
  
  srinath
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: srinath (@ m40.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Sun Nov 22 12:10:25 EST 1998
  
  hi,
  
  certain songs which i think have brilliant starts
  
  oru kunguma chengamalam- aradhanai
  kannukum kannukkum modhal -ninnaika therintha maname
  sandathil pdatha kavithagal- auto raja
  uravennum puthiya vanil- nenjathai killathe
  nilavu thungum neram- kunguma chimizh
  pesa kudathu- adutha varisu
  kalaiyilum malaiyilum - puthusa padikkiren pattu
  kadhal oviyam- alaigal oyivathillai
  devanin kovil- aruvadai naal
  
  srinath
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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