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Praise, not criticise DEVA!

Topic started by NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on Mon May 11 23:37:46 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Read this interview with Deva, where he has been called to answer several accusations, some like from this very forum. :-))

http://www.expressindia.com/screen/may08/music3.htm

Comments are welcome, but please be objective and don't call him names. :-))

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• From: Hrishikesh (@ 202.54.33.57) on: Tue Sep 8 12:57:47 EDT 1998
  
  Hi Guys,
  Check This out. Anu Malik has copied the song "Happy Birthday to You" in the film "Kareeb" .The song goes like "Tera Gussa Hai Hai". So our Xerox Machine down South Deva will soon use "Twinkle Twinkle" .Regarding him composing Keerthanai, it is the best joke I have heard in the last couple of years. Inimale Tyagarajar, Dheekshithar ,Syama Sastri ellam gaali.
  
  
• From: G.Suresh (@ begis50.swift.com) on: Tue Sep 8 14:41:21 EDT 1998
  
  Definitely the song 'malligaiYe malligaiYe ..' from Ninaithen vanDhai is the best song I would ever remember, What a great score by Deva, Can anyone confirm this is original tune ? if so no doubt Deva is just great, Also worth mentioning other songs in the same film, particularly 'vanna nilaVe'
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ elroy.cs.wisc.edu) on: Tue Sep 8 19:33:45 EDT 1998
  
  Suresh: About that particular songs I don't know, but Deva definitely did copy atleast one song for Ninaithen Vandai - you see the movie was a remake of the Telugu hit, "Pelli sandadi" and our man lifted (atleast) one song from the original, whose MD was Keeravani.
  
  
• From: G.Suresh (@ begis50.swift.com) on: Thu Sep 10 10:07:48 EDT 1998
  
  Kaushik: The song you mentioning is 'un Marbil...'
  
  
• From: Killer of Copy Cats of this world (@ prsyb107-27.splitrock.net) on: Fri Jan 15 22:54:50 EST 1999
  
  A small digress:
  
  Recently I was seeing "Godfather" video. The song "Raja Ko Rani Se Pyar Hogaya" in the film "Akele Hum Akele Tum" (score by the copy cat Annu Mallik) is a blatant lift of a BGM piece from the film (when Al Pacino, hiding in Sicily, goes to see the girl Apollina; the same tune is repeated at the closing credits of the movie!)
  
  
• From: vetty (@ ramses.erlm.siemens.de) on: Sat Jan 16 00:38:29 EST 1999
  
  I thought 'raaja kO raaNi sE pyaar hO gayaa' was a lift frm the famous western tune, 'speak softly love'. OR is this the tune which comes in the Godfather too?
  
  
• From: Ramanan (@ rigel-29.cableol.net) on: Sat Jan 16 04:37:19 EST 1999
  
  Vetty : that 'raaja kO raaNi sE pyaar hO gayaa' has been inspired (???) by the love theme from Godfather.
  
  
• From: Srinivas (@ pup36.stanford.edu) on: Mon Jan 18 17:31:19 EST 1999
  
  Killer of Copy Cats of this world :
  You are 100 % right. The opening two lines of the song are a Xerox from Godfather BGM piece for the Sicily scenes.
  
  
• From: kumar (@ 148.5.43.53) on: Tue Jan 19 01:42:00 EST 1999
  
  the irony is in that movie, the villan MDs
  (imitating naddem-shravan) copies this tune from
  amirkhan's notebook!!!. lol. And the movie itself a cog from a english movie. So what we talking about..is deva and copying becoming synonymous?!!
  
  
• From: bull (@ ramses.erlm.siemens.de) on: Tue Jan 19 03:34:54 EST 1999
  
  oh the movie itself is, apart from taking a dig at Nadeem-Shravan and a few little Indianisations here and there is a scene-by-scene lift of Kramer vs. Kramer.
  
  Anu Malik the Xerox machine of the north has copied from everyone including George Michel.
  
  
• From: V (@ mason.ge.com) on: Tue Jan 19 05:43:19 EST 1999
  
  The song
  'Unai ninaithu naan ennai marappathu
  athuthaan anbae, kadhal kadhal'
  
  from 'Ninaithen Vandhai'
  is a direct lift from one hindi song
  
  'dil se dil jab mil jaatha hai,
  ho jaatha hai, ye pyaar ye pyaar..'
  (I dont remember the movie or music director..)
  
  
• From: V (@ dixon.ge.com) on: Tue Jan 19 06:35:18 EST 1999
  
  I dont know if the songs in Aasai are original
  or not - but they are all good...
  
  If any of them are copies, can somebody please
  tell me what the originals are ????
  
  
• From: bb (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Tue Jan 19 12:46:43 EST 1999
  
  V, adhu lift illai, remake! andha padam(mere sapnon ki rani)'s remake is ninaiththen vandhaai. it is another matter that the root is a telugu film:))
  
  
• From: Singaram (@ 123.chicago-16-17rs.il.dial-access.att.net) on: Sun Jan 16 17:09:30 EST 2000
  
  Deva is a legend. After Vaali he paved his new way for his career. Pls listen to Mugavari and Aasayil or kaditham songs.
  
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ ip166.minneapolis13.mn.pub-ip.psi.net) on: Mon Jan 17 14:02:49 EST 2000
  
  praise deva... but criticising others is not the way to do it. :-).
  
  
• From: maangadu virumandi (@ 157.182.80.33) on: Mon Jan 17 15:56:25 EST 2000
  
  i am just tracking this thread...
  its surprise to see my response got vanished(and others too.. INTERNET DEMOCRACY..)
  I just told that all MD's at their intial stages tried to give inspired(?!) songs to get perm place in business...
  e.g.,
  1.( once upon a time)Illayarja's inspirations(?!)had been constantly exposed by ceylon radio.
  In " Neengal Kettavai" , song by KJY,"Kaanavukaaanum vazhkai yaavum kalainthu pokum megangkal"
  beautifully penned ...our maestro copied that from hindhi..(villanpiran was singin on the screen..i couldnt remember the film name...shorlty
  tell u..old movie)
  One can find lot inspirations behind the old hits of raja.
  
  2.regarding AR rahman,leading the music cavelcade
  in TECHNO TORTURE,TAMIL KOLAI,INSPIRATIONS IN THE NAME OF INNOVATIONS...Its pity to see that his music has been propagated as totol rep of indian music..
  
  so criticizing deva shows the complete ignorance of the tfm viewers...
  sincerely,
  maangadu virumandi.
  
  
  
  
• From: karthik (@ nat-2-252.i2.com) on: Mon Jan 17 16:24:38 EST 2000
  
  I have been out of the loop of Deva's latest music for a while. Given that he copies a lot of tunes, I do like the fact that he lifts from good and relatively non-pop songs ( at least non-pop for most of what is played in India). I was quite surprised to hear him pick Jethro Tull in "aan Azhaga" of Kaathal Kottai. He has copied Genesis, L Sub, Bob Marley and the like, which is way better than picking Celine Dion, Madonna & trash. And his instrumentation did improve over time. Even AR Rahman copied Cure (Close to Me) in "Netri Illatha Maatram", but got away with it as the Cure is not that popular in India.
  My 2 Cents worth
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ ws-209-233-228-187.webvangroup.com) on: Mon Jan 17 16:47:54 EST 2000
  
  hello maangadu virumandi ...... this is the n + n'th time, that the song u mentioned about IR copying has come up in the discussion... i remember reading in some other thread that the song u mentioned was an exchange for 'Ilaya Nila Pozhigirathey' with the hindi MD.....
  
  
• From: maangadu virumandi (@ 157.182.82.117) on: Tue Jan 18 10:45:21 EST 2000
  
  Mr.sabesan,
  Nice retaliation.(applause!!!)
  sincerely,
  M.Virumandi
  
  
• From: sajeef (@ spider-wa082.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Jan 18 16:42:49 EST 2000
  
  mukavary is a good song and i think the movie will be a success for ajith & jothika
  
  
• From: Singaram (@ 240.chicago-03-04rs.il.dial-access.att.net) on: Tue Jan 18 22:14:53 EST 2000
  
  Deva has signed more than 40 movies this year. Next busiest MD in TFM is S.A. Rajkumar.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.139) on: Wed Jan 19 01:03:21 EST 2000
  
  Singaram, thanx for the bad news;))
  
  
• From: vijanth (@ robot.ee.qub.ac.uk) on: Wed Jan 19 11:53:57 EST 2000
  
  Anu Malik ke Pattam King of Copy Cat ,
  Xerox machine. Ittu south Indian Pattam
  
  North Indian , Anu Malik top music director.
  I think somebody must tell about music
  to them.
  Anyway I found out something , Taal opening
  music in the album is copied from Yanni's
  Tribute album ( Yanni The Taj and Forbidden
  City Album ).
  Anu Malik and ARR actually are great people
  because they listen to music that very few listen
  and copied them and in case of ARR , he will do some creative mixing ( konjum plus point ).
  But Deva is the greatest , everyone know where
  he copied from. Deva valli thani valli because
  even if he compose original music till people
  will call him copycat. In Madras another meaning
  of xerox is Deva.
  enna Deva pavum senjarooo terillia...?
  
  Deva's only supporter.
  
  
• From: maangadu virumandi (@ 157.182.82.118) on: Fri Jan 21 14:51:46 EST 2000
  
  Hello vijanth,
  Is true!true!true!
  
  
• From: Ravichandran (@ 209.0.254.60) on: Fri Jan 21 22:26:26 EST 2000
  
  Deva is wellknown for his Gaana Paatu.
  I like him. He is as good as A.R.Rahuman.
  
  
• From: Singaram (@ 82.chicago-06-07rs.il.dial-access.att.net) on: Sat Jan 22 22:06:52 EST 2000
  
  Deva is more simple and realistic man. Read his latest interview in Dinakaran.
  
  
• From: veruppu (@ iq-ind-as007-199.iquest.net) on: Sun Jan 23 12:55:55 EST 2000
  
  Rahuman has tuned Gazhal Style hits in couple of movies like Sangmam and Muthalvan esp. Varaga Nathi Karai Oram. So from his interview in Dinakaran, we learn that Deva is all set to come with "his" version of Gazhals. Poor Gazhal Singers are going get robbed of their tunes. Ushar!!!! Gazhal Singers of North, copyright your Gazhal songs.
  
  ......Nenji Dikku Dikku Dikkunguthu.....
  
  
• From: veruppu (@ muscat06.slip.yorku.ca) on: Sun Jan 23 18:54:21 EST 2000
  
  Yaarappaa athu?? En pera copy adichu vampila maadathayum:-)
  
  Original Veruppu
  
  

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