Topic started by SR Kaushik (@ nova1.cs.wisc.edu) on Wed Sep 30 15:21:55 EDT 1998.
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Let me make one thing clear: I am not against MSV, but am merely curious about this topic.
I have made an interesting observation. We have so many criticisms of IR and ARR, but I've not seen any criticism of MSV. I haven't listened to many MSV songs, but I wasn't very impressed by whatever I have heard on TV. Whatever it is, I cannot imagine that he did not have any musical defects. Could anyone point them out? I am very interested. It might test the "objectivity" of certain "objective" people regarding the IR-ARR "war"(I'm not hinting at anyone, please do not misunderstand this), but nevertheless, I want to pursue this.
Responses:
- Old responses
- From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98)
on: Mon Sep 16 00:03:03 EDT 2002
My gosh! What a load of rubbish this guy is...:)
"u must be a IR chauvanist! Tell me how many golden hits IR gave after 1992. tell me honestly on comparable to Deva or even Bharadwaj! IR is composing and is trying for a big come back but his style has become stero type to the best of my "35 years" of music knowledge and only AWE likes deliberately!!"
You obviously dunno how a composer like IR's mind works do u? Don't embarass urself talking abt comeback or things like that. The moment you compared him to Deva, everyone wld know your musical knowledge.
"BTW, u confessed that IR has issues with Directors. U read my first response in this forum "good to see all of your observations about MSV. MSV is a very special MD of all times with "no ego". Reason is that he scored for MGR/Shivaji/MK Muthu/Karunanidhi/Cho (all are kind of politicians during their periods)". IR is the most egoistic/egotistic personality in the entiere music community. U know one thing he critisized Vairamuthu 4 or 5 years back on "Andhi Mazhai" song. Why in the world IR did not critize him at the time of writing the song itself. I know the reason for fighting with these Directors/Producers and Super Stars but they all are child like act. Tell me one thing why Kamal did not recognize IR now-a-days? Tell me why after scoring 750 films IR could not pass 1000? he may pass soon hopefully - but look at the gap since 1992. first 750 was faster than the last 250 of the 1000 IR films."
Tell me why IR is living where he lives? Tell me why he eats that particular food that he eats? Tell me why had to get training going around India with his brothers for katcheris before getting Annakili? Tell me why he wasn't born immediately a world famous composer when he was a toddler? Tell me why he motta adikirranga nowadays? Tell me how to shut ur mouth....oops! :)
"BTW, i know more about IR than U. have u ever heard of "Manadhasai Akki Haadu" just go listen the song and come back and talk about IR. I am more IR fan than u guys. I still accept the fact that he is "tired" and may be getting re-"tired". Dont talk anything pre-92 songs as i mentioned earlier they are great IR hits."
What do you call Lajja? Hey Ram? Their BGMs? Kutty? Have you listened to Bulwah's Theme? Pls dun embarass yourself.
- From: Ayo Pattikkitchu (@ 24.156.49.133)
on: Mon Sep 16 01:16:01 EDT 2002
All IR pre-92 songs are utter failure. Even ARR worst albums are far popular than IR good ones. People like you & IR are all wasting your time in TFM. Let IR beat MD's like VS & BW before we can compare him to ARR.
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.57.196)
on: Mon Sep 16 01:33:09 EDT 2002
Bunch of illiterate pricks are blabbering here... Ayo and God (161.142.100.86) longback put on 'ignored' list as they have more liking to dogs than music... It is insult to our intelligence to have conversations with these dumbos who are going through midlife crisis... But as far this MSV fan Satish goes.. he exposed his ignorance and stupidity in a spectacular way by comparing IR with Deva..
- From: Ayo Pattikkitchu (@ 24.156.49.133)
on: Mon Sep 16 01:49:14 EDT 2002
This fuc*ing kadi naai Awe will never understand music in his lifetime. We cant even compare IR to Parani. So you pathetic panadai go and commit suicide to show everyone how stupid you are.
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:03:57 EDT 2002
Ayo Pathikichu, this moron Uthaman, with his latest name of Awe, is doing multi avatar postings all over the forum. He also takes on different names such as Ramesh, Raja by using different IPs.
His prime purpose for existence is to diss anyone but IR and to exhibit his vayatherichal.
This low life creature will talk about ignoring others, little realising that besides giving-back-the-same-medicine people like us, everyone else is ignoring him.
What to do, he is one of the by-products of IR.
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.58.92)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:16:03 EDT 2002
God alias sheela has just got a doctorate in TCP/IP networking.. I know for ARR fans like you these concepts are too much... For God alias Nijam alias Sheela alias 161.142.100.86 anybody who goes after him is so and so.. hehehe... It is funny to see this guy making a complete fool out of himself.. in an open forum like this.. What next Ambleen is another form of Awe huh? Poor sheela.. taken for a ride by everybody.. and she thinks everybody is the same...
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:18:40 EDT 2002
Let's now take a look at one of his previous avatar, JJ....
JJ (@ 65.69.44.168) on: Fri Jul 26 as compared with
: Awe (@ 65.69.57.196)
see http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/13666.02.37.25.html
As everyone can see, he is one helluva frustrated guy.
Hehehehehehe.
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:21:06 EDT 2002
Uthaman, don't compare yourself with ambleen.
At least that guy had some decency to apologise when he used filthy words.
You.....are beyond redemption.
- From: Ramesh (@ 209.245.38.146)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:29:03 EDT 2002
Dei 161... edhavadu therinja pesanum.. illatti moodindu irukkanum.. paruppu madiri pesa koodathu.. you go and spoil every thread of IR.. do you expect us to fold our hands and see that.
Unna madiri people should be shot to death.. Mavane nee enga ponalaum gali... wait and see..
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.57.82)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:31:03 EDT 2002
God.. so you want it right?? now you are going to have real tough time preapre yourself... you, ST, Ayo are same persons... right.. soon you will get caught.. how easy to say... wow..
- From: Ayo Pattikkitchu (@ 24.156.49.133)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:33:57 EDT 2002
God, Just ignore that kadi naai. It uses different IP address to spit venom in every single thread. It always get into fight with somebody on a daily basis. So, we will ignore this kadi naai just as we ignore IR irritating music.
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.57.82)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:36:04 EDT 2002
Guys Please ignore Postings from this ID
161.142.100.86. Whoever belongs to this ID must be a moron. In one posting he supports Illayaraja. In another posting he bashes Illayaraja. I think he is a mental case.
Check for yourself. Various postings of this moron.
From: GB (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 10:10:38 EDT 2002
porutevar boomi-ye allvar....
so IR fans plz stay calm n tuned,,
only time will reveal His magnificent work in Ivan
From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 21:02:23 EDT 2002
Guys, why are you wasting your time on Ivan, avan and such stupid stuff?
Fact is no one outside this forum talks about Ivan.
From: GB (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Mon Aug 12 10:23:37 EDT 2002
most of us didnt like many songs at first appeal coz...we did not watch the movie n the video clip.
its one of IR's supernatural that his tunes fits good to the screenplay of the song....thats why we dont get the touch till we listen to the song while watching the movie.
for me ..i had the same experiance with germanyin senteyn malare in ulasai paravaigal....now i fall in love with that song
From: Nijam ILLEI (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Tue Aug 13 02:08:02 EDT 2002
Yes yes, SPM you are right.
Rajini is junior to Mathavan and IR is senior to Thyagaraja Bhagavathar.
Happy?"
Your point in showing that you're total moron being?
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.57.82)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:36:53 EDT 2002
It was a general opinion on you from TFM forum people..
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:39:40 EDT 2002
Hahahahahaha
Uthaman, you are an absolute idiot.
You know why? You assume that just because you play these kind of stupid games, others are also doing the same.
I doubt whether AP and ST are in the same continent as me!
Go on and prove your stupidity. This is going to be FUN. Hehehehehe
Ayo, I will stop when this mega idiot stops spitting venom on anyone besides IR. As far as I know ARR fans and MSV fans are decent people and will not get into arguments with morons like this guy. But somebody got to do it, right?
I hope you will continue as well, until such time, respectable people can have decent discussions in peace.
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:42:09 EDT 2002
Moron Uthaman, go and do some real checking. You will find 100s of people from this country posting from that IP address. How long are you just going to repeat the GB, Nijam postings?
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.57.82)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:42:47 EDT 2002
Another form of God.. This is really funny.. transvestites should be banned from this TFM site..
Old responses
From: Sheela (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Fri Jul 5 05:21:35 EDT 2002
Hai Usha,
I haven’t got chance to listen to the songs. I believe all his song is wonderful. Thanks for informing.
THIS 161.142.100.86 HAS BECOME A GIRL IN THIS POSTING. SHEELA!!!! THIS GUY IS THE WHAKIEST GUY IN THIS FORUM
- From: Ayo Pattikkitchu (@ 24.156.49.133)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:44:53 EDT 2002
What the fu*k are you doing you mentally ill kadi naai. You should be killed immediately without any mercy . You fuc*king naais in the US have nothing to do other than barking on decent ARR fans. Fuc*k off you pathetic pannadai.
- From: Ramesh (@ 209.245.33.40)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:47:19 EDT 2002
Dei poda potta 161..... jollu vida ippadi oru actingada? Enda neeyellam tamilanukku oru kevalam nee.. I must show this to my friends immly.. only today we were talking about guys chatting using girls names.. udane oru evidence inga.. aduvum tamilan.. engeyavadhu nattukkittu savuda..
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:47:44 EDT 2002
Uthaman, come on, take on a different avatar now, so that others will think that many people are supporting you.
Hahahahahahaha.
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Mon Sep 16 02:49:02 EDT 2002
Thopaarudaa! Solli mudikkale, athukkulle vanthuttaan.
Uthaman, you are becoming TOO predictable.
LOL. I am in stitches.
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