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TFM Stories, Tit-Bits and Anecdotes

Topic started by Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on Mon Apr 6 02:26:53 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

The aim of this thread is to collect, at one place, interesting
stories, anecdotes, tit-bits etc, related to TFM. A newcomer to
the forum will find this collection very interesting to read. For
example, Ramki mentioned the following story in another thread:

Do you remember the 'vizhiyil vizhundhu' (alaigal oyvadhillai) song?
Andha situation BRkku suddenaaga thondra, VMkku outdoor shootingil irundhu
phone seidhu kettuLLaar. VM phoneliye lyrics solla adhai tape seidhu
udanae IRkku anuppa, IR Janaki, Shailaja, PS ellariayum koppitturkkar
but no one was available. BSS mathram dhan mattirkkanga so avangalukku
adichadhu adhirshtam. The whole song was done in just 2 hrs time.
Annikke song shoot panni mudichittaangalaam.

Folks, please share any such stories, anecdotes and tit-bits that
you know, in this thread. If TFM Group thinks it is sufficiently
interesting, they could even place it in Permanent Topics.

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Responses:

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• From: arul (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Jun 24 05:38:00 EDT 1998
  
  Director Agathian film songs:
  In 1996, when I watched the movie Kadal Kottai, I liked the Song Nalam , NAlamaria Aaval very much. It become the most popular Song almost a year in most part of the world, in Oli 96.8 FM Singapore they used to play 2 to 3 times in a day.
  The song also gave break to Anuradha Sriram (She is one female singer whose mother tongue is tamil and hence read write and speak in tamil properly. In one interview in Oli she said she is patchai Tamilachi). But the point is no one gave the credit for Agathian who wrote the song. Many people dont know that the song was written by him. In his next film Gokulathil Seethai also he wrote some nice songs like Nilave va, Enthan Kural kettu etc. In the film Vidukatai the song Idhayam idhayam inaikirathe is very good one. In movie Santhosam the song Sethumadhava unai serthu anaikava is also good.
  
  I think if a director, who is also incharge of story screenplay, can write better songs than others even if they are average in poetry or kavithaikal.
  
  arul
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Wed Jun 24 07:20:15 EDT 1998
  
  Arul: Thanks for that information, I wasn't aware of Agathiyan for Nalam Nalam Aria Aaval....It was a great song.....The lyrics were so apt, clear and concise, and nothing could have suited the situation better.
  
  Digression: By the way, has Deva copied "Nalam Nalam Ariya Aaval" from anyone? If not, was it one of his few Original songs? I'm very interested in knowing, as it had fantastic orchestration and a beautiful tune.....
  
  No_Nov(Bones): How comes Nithyashree actually sang 'Kannodu' then? If ARR was so annoyed with her, how did he allow her to gain fame by this song? Is it because he's Not Arrogant and instead of excuding her for her talent, he still used her as he felt she suited the song best?
  
  Thnaks to you all for the IR ARR Ring explanations.....
  
  
• From: SRIKANTH (@ 161.225.48.3) on: Wed Jun 24 10:13:56 EDT 1998
  
  Digression: By the way, has Deva copied "Nalam Nalam Ariya Aaval" from anyone? If not, was it one of his few Original songs? I'm very interested in knowing, as it had fantastic orchestration and a beautiful tune.....
  
  I dont agree to this geetha,
  This song has lot "thekam" or gaps ...I feel most score in the tune has been improvised by SPB...
  The song meter sounds more like Enthan Nenjil
  For this tune - one can compose a better bgm
  (I am not boasting - I feel I can do much better..) - It is all Deva's time... which is very good now...
  Other than the pallavi nothing is coming to me mind....must be for most of them.
  As this tv film music program plays only the pallavi in all the programs - it catches very quickly.. At times ARR follows this...
  The priciple of Catchy Pallavi .....
  People are not worried about other parts of the song...
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Wed Jun 24 10:49:52 EDT 1998
  
  Srikanth: But the Krishnaraj version is also excellent(SPB sang the version that appeared in the film, there was another one on the CD which I liked equally)....What thekam/Gaps do you mean? I don't understand. When you say song meter, do you mean the Tala?....again, I don't understand, is it the pace or rhythm, as these can both be coincedences, like a lot of Carnatic pieces....What is the principle of catchy pallavi? As the lyrics are so good, I remember the anu-pallavi and charanam very well. In the end, it looks like it is a Deva original, am I right? By the way, thanks for the prompt reply.
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 128.96.140.26) on: Wed Jun 24 11:10:44 EDT 1998
  
  I can not agree more with Srikanth. Unfortunately, we had to perform this song in one of our gigs. Except for the prelude 12 string guitar, the whole
  orchestration is dull and wanders without purpose. Especially, the second interlude, after the flute, the keyboard plays some nonsense melody. It was so
  boring that we dropped the second interlude and played only the first interlude again. Our guitarist/arranger Ramani, improvised on the chords to make it more interesting for us. SPB takes full credit. The tune itself sounds like a inspired 70s MSV tune. But poor inspiration.
  
  
• From: MPR (@ hindsight.nodak.edu) on: Wed Jun 24 11:26:07 EDT 1998
  
  Geetha:
  
  I think Bones was talking about some
  recent incident, I guess after her first
  song 'kannOdu'. Am I right, Bones?
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 161.225.48.3) on: Wed Jun 24 11:45:45 EDT 1998
  
  Hi,
  Sorry for using jargons of our tfm understood by the TFM musicians only..
  Gap /Theikam - means no interludes..
  there are many gaps in the song...
  when the sentence ends...
  Nalam Nalam Ariya aaval ...there should be something - atleast a bass piece..
  (there is the same repeated guitar piece - the song itself played in the guitar.)
  Bass scores : it is just a single note bass piece..
  As sridhar points there is nothing for the musician to play in the song..
  More like a national anthem...
  Even I was playing it on the stage..kadamaye..inu vasipen...
  I will improvise with slap basses and other things that occurs to my little brain on the stage..
  
  Meter : - nearest to same tempo + feel + chords etc..
  I dont have good words to explain it. i will try...
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: NaNbaN (@ 205.214.209.10) on: Wed Jun 24 15:47:29 EDT 1998
  
  Geetha, Original! Deva! come on!
  
  He 'Lifted' (what else he will do) the song. The song was based on one songs from KennyG. I don't remember the KennyG song name but i am sure he lifted it from KennyG and tried to tune for TFM. Although I like to hear the song, I don't give very much credit to deva.(Maybe Remix credit)
  
  
  The title song of "Kadhal kootai" is totally lifted from English song. Recently KennyG has become DEVA's Favourite. The song
  "Kaadhali Kaadhali..." by Hariharan in Avvai shanmugi is partially lifted from KennyG. and the Humming Ohho.. Ohho....from another Album.
  
  After all these partial 'Lifting' success he decided to totally Lifted a tune from KennyG. The song was also running top of the charts when I was in INDIA. "Poovey Nee Aadava.." in the last Balachander film. One-to-copy of tune and
  orchestration from KennyG. If KennyG sues HIM.
  DEVA will go bankrupt. I even wondered whether he scored the music or remixed only the Voice ( Just Kidding). ITs a XEROX of KennyG song.
  
  We can give him a name a COPYCAT. How many songs he has copied. He has tried his hand on Micheal Jackson (Metro Channel..) . Dr. Alban (Uusi mala kathu-Vijakanth Film). Khaleed (Didi) Alli Alli Anarkalli -Rajnikanth film. I don't know where this is going to END. I have totally stop TRUSTING DEVA.
  
  OK He give hits in TFM in top 10 countdown like ARR, VIdyasagar, Sirpi.. All same products with differrent names. Except for ARR is few songs. But ARR has set a bad trend too, which makes
  things easy from these guys
  
  TFM following paths of HFM..(Anu malik, Anand-Milind, Bappi Lahiri,...).
  
  Orginal,
  NaNbaN
  
  
  
  
• From: NaNbaN (@ 205.214.209.10) on: Wed Jun 24 15:52:37 EDT 1998
  
  Guys ! Sorry for Spelling mistakes and 'poor'
  Tamil. In mid of busy schedule I come to get in touch with you guys. I will try to improve.
  
  Anbudan,
  NaNbaN
  
  Note: Don't follow up this posting. If anything
  send me a personal mail. Thanks.
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Jun 24 21:14:41 EDT 1998
  
  Geetha & MPR:
  
  The following was reported in Kungumam, 26th June 98
  issue which Bones was talking about:
  
  After Jeans, ARR wanted to use Nithyasree for
  a song in another movie. He had already talked
  to her about this, got her consent, and also
  fixed a certain date and time also. On that fixed
  date, it seems Nithyasree's husband called ARR
  and told him that she was not in town; but, it
  seems she was actually in town! Strangely, one
  hour after that, he called ARR again
  and asked: 'What to you need Nithyasree for?'
  It seems ARR was very upset by that question
  and decided another female singer instead of
  Nithyasree for that song. The fellow, iLangkavi
  Kuppusamy, who wrote this piece of news, concludes
  by asking: 'vaLarndhu varum nEraththil Nithyasree-kku
  idhu thEvaithaanaa?'
  
  
• From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Wed Jul 8 23:06:13 EDT 1998
  
  Drummer Sivamani speaks out his experience
  with Ilaiyaraaja and Rahman at the following
  URL:
  
  http://www.kanian.com/Tamilnews/package48/807w1_sivamani.htm
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Jul 8 23:59:38 EDT 1998
  
  MPR:
  
  Thanks for pointing the article. ARR's friendly comments
  on IR are to be particularly noted.
  
  Since this article may be removed from that site
  soon, it may be a good idea to request Ravi/Rajaraman
  to copy it to newtfmpage.com and put the new link here.
  
  
• From: MPR (@ dyn07.iacc-t23.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Thu Jul 9 00:32:26 EDT 1998
  
  Sathiya Keerthi:
  
  You're welcome. Their discussion about
  new songs of Raaja points out that ARR
  indeed listens to other MDs music.
  Now, that's interesting :)))
  
  
• From: enna_ulagamaDA (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Thu Jul 9 06:30:31 EDT 1998
  
  MPR:
  
  Read my small tit-bits in the "who is best KR or YSR" thread about YSR's interview in Kumudaham.
  
  In that YSR says that he & the rest of the family
  listen to ARR's songs at home - but when asked
  about appa IR - he sothapified and said NO.
  
  ithu eppadi irukku ??
  
  
  

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