Raga of song please
Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.
The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 S R1 R2 R3 G3 M1 M2 P D1 D2 D3 N3 G1 G2 N1 N2
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- From: IR (@ 4.64.201.224)
on: Thu Aug 8 10:44:03 EDT 2002
Vasu :-( No
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.72.67)
on: Thu Aug 8 15:07:07 EDT 2002
Vasu,
I dont exactly no who composed 'nandavanththil Or aandi" but it is a "siddhar paadal"
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Thu Aug 8 23:55:03 EDT 2002
hi all thanks for not beating me...
Vasu naan paattukku "kavadi sindhu" appideennu aezhudhinaen neenga adhukku ilakkaNa viLakkamae koduththuteenga ;-))
btw coming to TFM, is the song maanguyilae poonguyilae FROM Karagaattakkaaran qualify to be a kaavadi sindhu song?
- From: Rajesh G (@ 167.202.196.71)
on: Fri Aug 9 04:44:11 EDT 2002
Hi folks,
Other KVs that I have heard,
Valli kanavan perai - Ananda bhairavi
Senni kula nagar - Senjurutti
Senthamizh nadenum - Bhairavi (?)
Rajesh.
- From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162)
on: Fri Aug 9 05:23:30 EDT 2002
nandhavanathilOr aaNdi - i vaguely remember it as Pattinathaar's, but i am not sure!
- From: sudhakar (@ 203.124.253.252)
on: Fri Aug 9 05:59:18 EDT 2002
My name is sudhakar. I have learned keyboard for 2years.But i am not able to play cinemasongs.So please someone help me out to play
with the chords.Tell me some tips howto play.
- From: sudhakar (@ 203.124.253.252)
on: Fri Aug 9 06:01:15 EDT 2002
My name is sudhakar. I have learned keyboard for 2years.But i am not able to play cinemasongs.So please someone help me out to play
with the chords.Tell me some tips howto play and
I want notations in western. I am not able to follow in srgm d1 d2.
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.76.225)
on: Fri Aug 9 07:51:19 EDT 2002
WHATEVER you say, you are aware I am a new entrant to this page and so I did not know what all had been discussed here all these years. When I entered I found the discussion in a very elementary stage except for a few postings and it was revolving most of the time around the song Nalam vazha...which in my opinion is a very mediocre one based on Madhukauns and so I suggested why did not they think of songs like Orunaal iravu...(kaviyathalaivi). The way they had been discussing like the bhava of classical ragas and its application to film songs, anniya swaras creeping in, etc. only made me post the one you had shown here. I am convinced that I have addressed all the issues raised by u...what is wrong in dropping names, I ask u. What is wrong is calling a spade a spade? Hay,my reference to BH&IR's mohanam and MSV/Naushad's SB is only an example. It dusnt mean they havnt composed in other ragas. Peter pan has brought them right. I have also addressed PPan's issues.
Peterpan,
Nice you have started this KC matter. Though I find many postings (kudos to Kupps,Ram) interesting it was Kunnakkudy Venkatarama Iyer who first popularised kc in TN. KVI is totally not connected to Kunnakkudy Vaidyanathan.
KVI is also a tfm composer of 40s, his noteworthy being Kathal kanirasamey in PUC's Mangayarkkarasi in Chithharanjani(nathathanumanisam ditto). PUC-KVIyer connection is very interesting. KCs are normally composed in Senchurutti, Punnagavarali, Nadhanamakriya,yadhukulakambodhi,senchukambodhi and in Kurinji.Vallikkanavan perai vazhippokkan...in senchurutti is a classic example.
Arularasan,
I dont think you have to cite such a kurall to advise me. Anyway thanx for the compliments.
S.Atre, Sindhuja,
I have of late started enjoying your comments/pranks.
Satsona,
I wish your dream soon become a reality. Good idea indeed.
S.Atre,
Manji closely resembles bhairavi and not A.bhairavi. Know Varugalamo of Nandanar MMD?
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.76.225)
on: Fri Aug 9 07:51:52 EDT 2002
WHATEVER you say, you are aware I am a new entrant to this page and so I did not know what all had been discussed here all these years. When I entered I found the discussion in a very elementary stage except for a few postings and it was revolving most of the time around the song Nalam vazha...which in my opinion is a very mediocre one based on Madhukauns and so I suggested why did not they think of songs like Orunaal iravu...(kaviyathalaivi). The way they had been discussing like the bhava of classical ragas and its application to film songs, anniya swaras creeping in, etc. only made me post the one you had shown here. I am convinced that I have addressed all the issues raised by u...what is wrong in dropping names, I ask u. What is wrong is calling a spade a spade? Hay,my reference to BH&IR's mohanam and MSV/Naushad's SB is only an example. It dusnt mean they havnt composed in other ragas. Peter pan has brought them right. I have also addressed PPan's issues.
Peterpan,
Nice you have started this KC matter. Though I find many postings (kudos to Kupps,Ram) interesting it was Kunnakkudy Venkatarama Iyer who first popularised kc in TN. KVI is totally not connected to Kunnakkudy Vaidyanathan.
KVI is also a tfm composer of 40s, his noteworthy being Kathal kanirasamey in PUC's Mangayarkkarasi in Chithharanjani(nathathanumanisam ditto). PUC-KVIyer connection is very interesting. KCs are normally composed in Senchurutti, Punnagavarali, Nadhanamakriya,yadhukulakambodhi,senchukambodhi and in Kurinji.Vallikkanavan perai vazhippokkan...in senchurutti is a classic example.
Arularasan,
I dont think you have to cite such a kurall to advise me. Anyway thanx for the compliments.
S.Atre, Sindhuja,
I have of late started enjoying your comments/pranks.
Satsona,
I wish your dream soon become a reality. Good idea indeed.
S.Atre,
Manji closely resembles bhairavi and not A.bhairavi. Know Varugalamo of Nandanar MMD?
- From: Vasu (@ )
on: Fri Aug 9 09:39:01 EDT 2002
R Sundar,
I had mentioned manji closely resembles A.Bhairavi. Thanks for info.
- From: Sundar ATre (@ 130.203.216.54)
on: Fri Aug 9 10:36:25 EDT 2002
MS, can we provide a link for our site to the sruti magazine?
http://www.sruti.com/lulink.htm
Evidently, edition 67 of the magazine has a detailed discussion of KCs
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.216.54)
on: Fri Aug 9 10:37:46 EDT 2002
MD Sundar, glad that you have a sense of humor ... keep the fundas pouring in
- From: Saketh (@ 128.180.56.92)
on: Fri Aug 9 12:08:03 EDT 2002
Hi,
Is the song "vaazhkai ennum odam" (KBS song) in the movie Poombuhaar based on Sindhubhairavi?
- From: PUNNAKU (@ 195.92.168.170)
on: Fri Aug 9 13:59:58 EDT 2002
UNGALUKELLAM VERA VELAIYE ILLAIYA????
EPPA PAARU CINEMA CINEMA CINEMA.......
ENN IPPADI SEERALINCHU KEDDU POREENGA?
ARITHARAM POSUM NADIKARKALAIYUM, CINEMA PADALKALAIYUM KEDPATHUM PARPATHUM THAN VAALKKAIYA?
IRUKAPORA KONJA NAAL PIRAYOSANAM EETHAVATHU SEYUNGALEN... TAMILANAI MUNNERAMAL PANNUVATHU IPPADIYANA INAIYA THALANGAL THAN(IDLE),
DISTIL IDIOT URUPADURA MATHIRI WEBPAGE SEYUNGADA.
BYE
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.216.54)
on: Fri Aug 9 14:39:43 EDT 2002
I hereby elect RS to turn his attention on Punakku :) ... I found a newtfmpage thread that addresses more on the folk music-film music connections:
http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/17777.23.56.47.html
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.217)
on: Fri Aug 9 14:45:52 EDT 2002
what is the difference between some of these songs: naattuppura paattu, Sidhdhar paatu, Kaavadi Chindu, Paambu paattu etc? They all seem folkish - when it comes to music? Would really appreciate some insight into this :-) Thanks in advance
Could someone give examples of all of the above from TFM? Rag Sundar??
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Fri Aug 9 15:31:14 EDT 2002
IR,
siddar paadalgaL-kku ore qualification it must have been written by a siddar....many siddar paadalgaL are folk based(ithu oru peria kaNdu pidippa...he he)
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.216.54)
on: Fri Aug 9 17:09:18 EDT 2002
Vera yennada Ramu? Paambu Paatu is written by snakes? What is this? I found these KCs to listen to at:
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/s/?q=kavadi&c=00
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.216.54)
on: Fri Aug 9 17:27:37 EDT 2002
Tying up a few more past discussion, found a DK Pattamal version of Vaishnava Janato in Sindhu Bhairavi:
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/s/?q=Vaishnava%20Janatho%20-%20Raga:%20Sindhubhairavi&c=0200
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Fri Aug 9 18:57:31 EDT 2002
oru veLai punnagavaraLi based folkish songs-ai Paambu paattu-nu sollalaamO:-)
- From: Sundar Atre (@ 130.203.162.49)
on: Fri Aug 9 22:42:21 EDT 2002
You mean PUNNAKU varali, Ram? Seems more like a Nai paatu :)
- From: vel (@ 203.199.245.224)
on: Fri Aug 9 23:57:25 EDT 2002
Is "enge iraivvan ennum kalaignan" from the film "sir, i love you" based on DESH?
- From: sk (@ 137.132.3.10)
on: Sat Aug 10 00:22:09 EDT 2002
Rbpm Sundar:
I hope to get a lot of info from you on the scales
used for several old songs. Some questions:
(1) I had earlier asked if the last 4 lines of
nalamthAnA are Keeravani based. Can you
confirm if that is right?
(2) You said rAdhA kAdhal varAdhA is in
Ravichandrika. Can you give the Arohana/Avarohana
of that raga please?
(3) Is vArAyen thOzhi vArAyO (pAsa malar)
in Natabairavi scale?
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.156)
on: Sat Aug 10 00:55:35 EDT 2002
From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.84) on: Wed Jul 31 21:46:53 EDT 2002
mandiram seems to be a beautiful blend of khamas,bhAgeshri and shades of jayamanOhari(BTW,Ram tnx. for introducing this rAgA to me-didn't know of it till now) as well.But it seems to be ravichandrika/rAgeshri (but of course has Pa)predominantly.What do u think?
Sindhu I could see desh in the seventh line of charanams (in the lines "Saayalail mayile,thenisai kuyile,maalaiyil adikkum manjalin veyyile")
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