Topic started by G.Suresh (@ 207-172-73-110.s47.as2.man.erols.com) on Wed Apr 1 13:21:53 EST 1998.
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I am G.Suresh for those of you who don't know me, this is my second posting in this forum , it is unfortunate that my earlier one 'Has Arr not copied Narumugaiyae' has to be deleted due to some controversies.
Coming to this latest one , We have lot of singers who resembles SPB in singing, closest being Mano, Arun Mozhi and on one song by Ramesh "Rahde en Radhe.." in Japanil Kalyana Raman, Can we identify here who comes next to SPB in terms of Soft voice and versatality. My choice is Arunmozhi , Awaiting response
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- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187)
on: Fri Aug 10 13:20:12 EDT 2001
Sun is brighter than Moon nu solradhukku oru threada.
- From: Indian Music Fan (@ to-cf3.sprint-canada.net)
on: Sat Aug 11 00:19:25 EDT 2001
Escuse ME Mudhalvan
Are you out of your mind !!!!!. What do you mean Rafi did not have a singing style of his own ???. SPB is the one who has tried to sing in Rafi's style ok. GET THAT STRAIGHT !!!!!. It is openely known that SPB incorporated Rafi's singing style into his own because Rafi was his idol. When you hear SPB singing, you can see shades of Rafi's style in him. Rafi is the one who inspired him or made him aware of singing in style. GET THAT INTO YOUR MIND BEFORE MAKING SUCH CRAZY STATEMENTS WHICH LACK MUSICAL SENSE !!!!.
Don't give me a list of movies that shows SPB's range or bass voice because i will give you a huge list of songs which Rafi's range and bass voice is shown. I have heard most of the movies you have listed. It is an open fact that Rafi has a higher range than SPB. If you are talking about a bass voice, Rafi has an excellent bass voice overall and so does SPB.
And in terms of manly voice, Rafi had an excellent manly voice. His voice suited each and every actor of that time. If it wasn't manly then how could he have suited each and every actor of that time. THINK ABOUT IT !!!!. If his voice wasn't manly then people wouldn't be talking about his voice suiting every actor he sang for. But that is one of his extraordinary qualities that his voice suited each actor. I do find SPB's voice good (i never said i didn't), but Rafi's voice is purely divine. Sometimes i find SPB's voice is too low. Rafi's voice was just perfect and it was pure GOLD!!!! which is the most divine ever !!
- From: Mudhalvan (@ webcacheh02a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sat Aug 11 06:36:29 EDT 2001
Indian Music Fan (@ to-cf3.sprint-canada.net) ;
Cool down man;
I am also singer, I have learnt carnatic music!, okay Rafi was SPB's idol, I admit, but who was Rafi's idol, he must have had one that is human nature. My idol in music is SPB, but I do have great respect for M.rafi & KJY, but I hate Hariharan, Udit narayan, shanker , srinivas & mano(mano's idol is SPB!!!), these third grade singers sing like they have ruuny nose or they have something stuck in thier thraot.
So if SPB's idol was Rafi, it does not mean that that SPB is not greater than, SPB is equal to or greater than Rafi in all aspects, but the time these two legends were signing in are different, hence the comparison had to conducted carefully.
Another legen lata, said that only singer in IMF that could match her in high pitches are M.rafi & SPB.I have listened to some devtional songs by SPB, when you hear his voice it sounds as if you are seeing god through his voice or as if god is singing himself, that does not mean I am under estimating Rafi, Rafi was an excellent singer, so was KJY, but SPB is something that is supernatural, his voice is the most divinest one, come on at the age of 55, his voice sounds like a 25 year old's voice, great bass, great manly voice, great personality (humble & easy going) what else do you need?
any way, can you answer few questions pls?
1) has rafi actually sang any tamil songs
2) Has rafi sang any devotionals (hinduism devotional)
3) where can I get any SPB' telegu / hindi songs in Uk(shops/websites,)
thanx
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115)
on: Sat Aug 11 07:25:13 EDT 2001
Thirundthaatha Ullangkal Irundthenna Lavam?
By fighting like this, you are adding black marks to SPB fans.
- From: fan (@ webcacheh07a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sun Aug 12 10:06:20 EDT 2001
Lets talk abt our great Uncle SPB, cos he is the greatest singer that india had ever produced!!, his voice is excellent(great bass, manly, sweet, excellent modulation, broke the world record for singing more than 40,000, this guy is musical genius, India is proud to have him!
- From: sundar (@ 202.9.162.133)
on: Mon Aug 13 03:54:26 EDT 2001
Did you watch SPB in SUNTV on 12-08-2001?
SPB admitted that the only voice that he ever cherished to possess (a positive envy sort of)
was that of the late RAFI.
he also said Rafi is irreplaceable. while SPB is known for his humility, this interview is the testimony of RAFI being equal to or greater than SPB himself.
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Mon Aug 13 05:02:24 EDT 2001
Rafi's idol = K.Saigal
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Mon Aug 13 06:03:48 EDT 2001
MS;
Thank you 4 the reference, every one have thier idol, mine is SPB,because Rafi was SPB's idol does not mean that SPB can not be equal to greater than Rafi
- From: Jeeva (@ tcache-mtc-tj01.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Aug 18 23:37:31 EDT 2001
I welcome debates like this as they only limelight the greatness of our great singers!
All for good!
- From: ukfan (@ aida.ece.concordia.ca)
on: Sun Aug 19 00:46:01 EDT 2001
Next to SPB
Only
UNNI KRISHNAN
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Mon Aug 20 05:05:05 EDT 2001
UKFAN; sorry UK is no way not even 0.1% near SPB, no comes next to SPB at present, perhaps his son SPB.Charan time will tell!
Has anyone listen to any SPB's telugu songs, I have listened to telugu version of "thenali", there are rendered by SPB & his children!.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Mon Aug 20 09:18:50 EDT 2001
SPB had already gone beyound M.rafi status years ago!, Did not you know that SPB posses more awards than any other singer in India! & he also broke the world record for singing more than 40,000 songs in his 35 year service in IFM!
- From: fan (@ 202.9.148.32)
on: Mon Aug 20 10:52:02 EDT 2001
spb is to singing what sivaji is to acting. Late Anna Durai ,likened sivaji to Marlon Brando.
Please tell me whom we can liken spb to
- From: badri (@ 202.9.181.244)
on: Mon Aug 20 11:17:39 EDT 2001
next to SPB ITS SPB
- From: NCR (@ 206.30.30.2)
on: Mon Aug 20 13:45:42 EDT 2001
Alphabetically, SPC comes next to SPB. SPCharan
let us wait and see.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Aug 21 05:20:51 EDT 2001
ncr;
I agree with you, let's hope that his son will take over him, SPB.charan recently rendered in "narshima", what do you think abt that, NCR?
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Aug 23 04:47:58 EDT 2001
NCR;
Do you know a song rendered by spb for Mithu charavarthy, the song has some tamil phrases like "naan than krsihnan ayer moorthi".
- From: Music_fan (@ 195.92.198.81)
on: Fri Aug 24 16:08:13 EDT 2001
Has any body heard SPB's "sivaarpanam"(devotional), the entire songs in this album are in sanskrit!, SPB have scored 100% as usual, but this time in devotional songs, you will forget abt this material world & enter the heavens, once you listen SPB singing these songs!
Amazing man
- From: Music_fan (@ 195.92.65.211)
on: Mon Aug 27 12:40:48 EDT 2001
SPB to be conferred 'Sangeeth Ganga' award for 2001 by the Bangalore organization of the same name. The previous recipients of the award include PB Sreenivas, RK Srikantan, etc.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Wed Aug 29 08:03:06 EDT 2001
Has any body heard "raagamum athan thalammum, nayaghan un pokal paada", by SPB?, where drags "aaaaa" for a very long time, amazing?, does anyone know which film its is from & MD for that film, pls?
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.139)
on: Wed Aug 29 09:52:25 EDT 2001
Oh God!! Here we go again!!
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Aug 30 04:59:29 EDT 2001
real spb fan;
Wht's wrong with u man, I was just asking a question, that's all!!!
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 63.253.226.59)
on: Thu Aug 30 05:08:57 EDT 2001
Raguvaran, that song was composed by SPB himself. This was the song that he sung in a competition and caught the attention of S.P. Kothandapani.
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Aug 30 05:23:51 EDT 2001
Sriram Lakshman;
Excellent man, do you know any where I can get this awsome song, I mean a web link or any shops in UK??
Much obliged
Ragu
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on:
Sriram Lakshman;
So are you saying that the song was composed by the genius SPB in 1966, to impress S.P.Kothandapani, spb would have been only 20 yeras old that time???.
If it is true, then this guy is seriously amazing!!
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.138)
on: Fri Aug 31 08:42:02 EDT 2001
chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan rotti rotti thaan....
- From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Fri Aug 31 09:11:30 EDT 2001
Real SPB fan;
You do not need to waste your time by posting the same thread on every SPB thread, I think Microsoft & IBM should disable CTRL+C( for cutting) CTRL+V (for pasting)
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.130)
on: Fri Aug 31 09:48:24 EDT 2001
Raguvaran:
You do not need to waste your time by starting so many SPB threads and boring even real SPB fans. I think TFM Administration should disable you.
- From: sriram (@ 203.199.155.137)
on: Sat Sep 1 11:41:55 EDT 2001
sriram:
When SPB sings u feel he is suffering from both diarrhoea and constipation, a feat thats unparalleled in the field of singing :-)
- From: sriram (@ 203.199.155.137)
on: Sat Sep 1 11:43:02 EDT 2001
Guys, this blasphemous post of mine is just to make the idiotic SPB fans from DHCP (a lunatic asylum looks like) post another 100 pages of crap. We'll all enjoy that
- From: evvano oruthan (@ 195.92.67.69)
on: Sat Sep 1 12:56:59 EDT 2001
SPB is class of it's won, who can not be compared with other singers in IFM, I agree KJY have done similar achievement (40K songs), but KJY is not multi talented as SPB, KJY is limited, but SPB is unlimited, KJY lacks SPB's excellent Bass & punch, but KJY is also great.
We have consider the fact that, KJY,BMK,UK,SMD,Mano,HH have learnt carnatic, apart from HH who learnt Ghazzels, But what did SPB learn?, nothing, It's all self taught, Are you saying that is not amazing???.
Ghantasala , KJY or BMK would not have sung Shankaraparanam better than SPB, these singers lack modulation & expressing emotions, Can you pls tell me one singer in India, who is better than SPB in expressing emotions (I mean "navarasam").
SPB has also talked for certain actors like Kamal, Mohan, NR, etc films, SPB's voice is same heavy voice as he sings in, Can you tell me any other singer who sounds the same when speaks as well as sing???, I can not think of any, take KJY 4 eg, he sounds different when he talks, than when he sings!
Most of KJY's songs are "devotional" & "carnatic", but Majority of SPB's songs are cinema songs.
TMS was good at modulation, but no where near SPB, he could not sing any carnatic songs, he often sounded bad at low pitches, since his voice is very good at High pitches.
I think Balamurali Krishna, Ghantasala & SPB have some thing common in thier voices, but SPB has the deepest bass out of all them.
Thanx
- From: Real SPB fan (@ 64.124.150.133)
on:
evvano oruththan:
chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan rotti rotti thaan.
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