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thiraippAdalgaLil samudhAyak karuththukkaL

Topic started by Kanchana (@ ww-tp05.proxy.aol.com) on Sun Apr 19 11:41:09 EDT 1998.
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TFM boasts of several contemporary poets like Bharadhidhasan, Pattukkottai Kalyanasundaram, Kannadhasan and Vali (Version I) who penned several songs dealing with social issues such as work ethic (uzhaippu), labor rights, women's position in society, religion, caste, patriotism/ nationalism, money/power/greed and the such. In addition, non-film kavidhaigaL from Bharadhi and Bharadhidhasan have been included in TFM to heighten social awareness.
Let's go ahead and discuss some of these songs--old and new--which address some key social issues even as they were entertaining the masses in the context of the movie situation. Please elaborate on the lyrics and your thoughts on the same as your time would allow.

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• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tb04.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 20 13:49:32 EDT 1998
  
  Let me just add to Manisekaran's perspective on Bharadhi's stance on some of the issues you've raised. I think Bharadhi's kavidhai "Bharadha Samudhayam" which was sung by DKPattammal in the movie "Vaazhkkai" addresses some of these issues.
  
  He seems to be take a socialistic perspective when he talks about sharing and how every individual is entitled to basic necessities of life.
  mandhar uNavai manidhar paRikkum vazhakkam ini uNdO?
  ....
  thani oruvanukku uNavilai enil jagaththinai azhiththiduvOm
  
  He underlines the importance & value of agriculture/natural resources to the society to make it possible for everyone to have food.
  iniya pozhilgaL nediya vayalgaL
  eNNarumperu nAdu
  kaniyum kizhangum thAniyangaLum
  kaNakkindRith tharu nAdu
  Remember his uzhavukkum thozhilukkum vandhanai seivOm mentioned before too.
  
  Bharadhi has written several bhakthi/kaNNan/kaNNammA kavidhaigaL which show his spiritual leanings (as a common man, not as a person of complete enlightenment.)
  'ellA uyirgaLilum nAnE irukkiREn'
  endRuraiththAn kaNNa perumAn;
  ellArum amaranilai eidhu(m) nanmuRaiyai
  indhiyA ulagiRk(u) aLikkum
  
  His dream was to have a casteless society: Manisekaran has mentioned several kavidhaigaL. From "Bharadha Samudhayam":
  ellArum Or kulam ellArum Or inam
  ellArum indhiya makkaL
  ....
  ellArum innAttu mannar
  
  The following shows Bharadhi's idea of a good living and is relevant to Bhaskar/Shyam's discussion on materialism above. The kavidhai is kANi nilam vENdum sung by CSJ for the movie ????.
  parAsakthiyidam Bharadhi vENdik kEtpadhu : kAni nilam, adhan naduvil oru mAligai/veedu, adhan pin oru kiNaRu, kiNatRarugE iLaneer thAngiya thennai maram, nilA oLi, pAdum kuyil, thavazhum iLam thendRal, sErndhu pAda nalmanaivi, thamizhk kavidhaigaL, parAsakthiyin karuNai, than kavidhaigaLaal ulagam seer peRudhaL...... eLimaiyum inimaiyum kaviththuvamum kAdhalum bhakthiyum podhunanmaiyum niRaindha vAzhkkaiyai Bharadhi virumbik kEtpadhu pOl thOndRugiRadhu.
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-to01.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 20 14:31:15 EDT 1998
  
  Shyam:
  
  Thanks for the Clarification.
  
  Mani (short for the long Manishekaran):
  
  Ungal Bharadhiyar examples was excellent!
  
  Nalla vaela ennOda Vaathiyaar paera pOtta dhaala
  thappucheenga! :-)) Irundhaalum oru rendu naal
  thalai maraivaavae iruppadhu nalladhunnu
  ninaikkuraen. Disclaimer vera last-la pottuteenga
  yaen ? bayandhuteengala ? :-))))
  
  Keerthi Saar, this Upathesam was for the film
  Vivasaayee only. It was for a particular
  storyline and situation.
  
  Yaen ellam situation-layum unmaiyaaga irukka
  koodadhu ? :-)))))) Appadi irukka vaendum endru
  dhaan ennOda Vaathiyaar paadinaar :-))))
  
  Kanchana:
  
  
  eLimaiyum inimaiyum kaviththuvamum kAdhalum
  bhakthiyum podhunanmaiyum niRaindha vAzhkkaiyai
  Bharadhi virumbik kEtpadhu pOl thOndRugiRadhu.
  
  
  Appadi thOnavillai, appadi dhaan avar irundhaar
  appdidhaan irukka vaendum endru solli irukkaar.
  
  Aahaaa, enna oru arumaiyaana vAzhkkai, adhai ellam
  vittuttu naan yaenda indha USA-vil vandhu kuppai
  kottikuttu irukkaennu thonudhu! Ellam vidhiyin
  vilayattu! Padippin parigaasam, Dollarsin mOgam.
  
  But inga USA-vil ippo naan paarkkaradhu .....
  
  
  Aadambaramum, Kasappum, kavithuvam illadha
  Porulum, Dating-um (Kadhaal), Dollars saerkka
  vaendum endra bakthiyum, Podhunanmaiyai marandhu,
  Kuraindha Vaazhkkai dhaan naan IMO paarthu kondu
  irukkum pOla enakku thOnudrugiradhu.
  
  
  Eppadida indha nilai maari naan marubadiyum andha
  Bharadhi Sonna Vazhkkaiyai eppozhudhu thaeda
  pOgiraen enbadhu dhaan ippozhudhu kaelvi kuri ?
  May be when I go back to India :-))))
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-to01.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 20 15:07:12 EDT 1998
  
  
  IdhO innoru paadal from Ilayaraaja and I do not
  know about the Lyricist (maybe Vaali Version I)
  
  Very Optimistic, Upbeat and Samudhaaya
  Karuthulla song.
  
  Movie : Unnal Mudiyum Thambi
  Music : IR
  Padiyavar : SPB
  Lyrics : ??
  
  
  Nanjai undu, punjai undu ...
  Pongivarum gangai undu
  Pancham mattum innum inghu maaravillai
  Enga Bhaarathathin sotthu sandai theera villai
  
  Veddhikku oru katchi undu,
  sadhikku oru sandham undu
  Idhu naada ? illa vaerum kaada ?
  Idhai kaettkka yaarum illa thozhaa ....
  
  Vaanathai etti nirkkum uyarndha maaligai
  Yaar ingu katti vaithu koduthadhu ?
  Oorukku paadu pattu iLaitha koottamO
  Veedindri vaasal indri thavikkudhu
  
  Etthanai kaalam ippadi pOgum ?
  Endru oru kaelvi naalai varum.
  Ullavai ellam yaarukkum sondham
  Endru ingu varum vaelai varum
  
  Aayriam kaigal koodattum
  Anandha raagam paadattum.
  Nalaiya kaalam nammOdu
  Nichiyam undo pOraadu
  Vaanagamum, vaigamum
  Engal kaigalil endraadu.
  
  Nanjai undu, punjai undu .....
  
  Aathukku paadhai indru yaaru thandhadhu
  thaanaga padhai kandu nadakkudhu
  Kaatrukku pattu solli yaaru thandadhu
  thanaaga pattu onnu padikkudhu
  Enniya yaavum kaigalil saerum
  Nambikkai vaendum nenjukullae
  
  Kaalaiyil thonrum suriyan pOlae
  pOnoLi vaendum kannu kullae
  
  Seriyil thendral veesaaadha ?
  Ezhayai vandhu theendadha ?
  Gangaiyum thaerkkae paayadhaa ?
  KaveriyOdu saeraadha ?
  Paadu padum thozhargalin,
  thoLgalil maalai soodadhaa ?
  
  Nanjai undu, Punjai undu ....
  
  
  
  There is another song in the same movie
  by KJ Yesudass.
  
  Lyrics : ?? Music : IR.
  
  
  Maanidar saevai dhrogamaa ?
  Kalaivaani neeyae sol ?
  Maanidar saevai dhrogamaa ?
  
  Veedhiyil nindru thavikkum
  Parariyai paarpadhum paavamaaa ?
  
  
  
  
• From: shyam (@ 192.147.35.56) on: Mon Apr 20 15:13:25 EDT 1998
  
  Bhaskar unga pirachanai inga irukira palarukku irukuthu.
  
  Poganumu thodrathu aana yeppa poranthu theriyaliyE?
  
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  nal vaazthu naanu solluveen nallapati vaazkavendu
  kalyana kovililE kanavan oru theyvam amma
  
  intha paatile manaivi eppadi irukanumu varum
  pattu muzusa therinja nalla irukum.
  
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  O oru thendral puyalaagi varuthee
  O oru daivam padi thandi varuthee
  
  kaala devanin karma yellaigal marugirathE
  
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  karupille vezuppumillle kadavutku uruvamille
  katalukuL pirumillai katavuLil peethamillai -- ellorum kondaduvom -- paava manippu
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• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-to01.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 20 15:18:27 EDT 1998
  
  
  Ada! namma ARR kooda oru Samudhaaya karuthulla
  Paadal solli irukkaru. Konjam vithiyasaama
  irukkum, namakku pirijukka konjam adhigama
  sakthi vaendum.
  
  Lyrics : Vairamuthu.
  
  
  Columbus Columbus ......
  ........................
  Sani nyayiru kaadhil Sonnadhu Ennadhu..
  Machine ellam manidhargaLaga Sonnadhu..
  Kollum Raanuvam aNu aayudham..
  Pasi pattini, bloody politics..
  Pollution yedhum pugundhu vidadha
  theevu vaendum tharuvayaa ? ..
  
  
  Avarukku samudhayathai thirutha mudiyuma ? doubt ?
  adhunaala namma Columbus kitta solli thaniyaavae
  pudhusaa oru theevu onnu thandhutta better-aa
  irukkumnnu kaettu kolgiraar, sari ARR-rai
  Andhamaan & Nicobar Islands-ukku Otti vidalaama ?
  
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-to01.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 20 15:29:55 EDT 1998
  
  Shyam:
  
  
  Bhaskar unga pirachanai inga irukira palarukku
  irukuthu. Poganumu thodrathu aana yeppa poranthu
  theriyaliyE?
  
  Naan enakku mattum dhaan irukkunnu irudhaen, oru
  periya gumbalae irukkudhunnu solreenga!
  pOi vidalaam Shyam Kavalai padadheenga, oru naal
  dhideernnu ravOda raava Odi pOivida vaendum endru
  enakku aasai (Kadhalargal Odi pOi vidugiraargalae
  andha maadiri).
  
  Columbus kudutha theevu ellam waste. Namaa India
  dhaan eppOvumae best! Ennadhaan politics
  irundhaalum , evvalvudhaan pollution irundhaalum,
  Indiavula irukkura sugamae thani! Enna solreenga ?
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tk03.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 20 22:47:39 EDT 1998
  
  Digression: Non-TFM Poem:
  
  
  Engae oorgalil jaadhi illaiyaO
  Angae koovuga SaevalgalaE
  
  Engae boomiyil pOrgal illaiyaO
  Angae paadungal poonguyilaE
  
  Engae manidharil baedham illaiyaO
  Angae muzhanguga sanginamaE
  
  Engae maanudam siragu thaedumO
  Angae vazhividu vaanveLiyaE
  
  Engae kuzhandaiyin Kaigal neelumO
  Angae oLiruga veNNilavaE
  
  Engae unakku muN manidhar vizhipparO
  Angae thondruga KadhiravanaE
  
  Engae vidhavaiyar koondhal kaayumO
  Angae malaruga poovinamaE
  
  Engae poovinam thoongi vizhikkumuO
  Angae suturruga vandinamaE
  
  Engae punnagai polivillaiyaiO
  Angae sirithidu poNNidhazhaE
  
  Engae thannalam azhindhu pOgumO
  Angae neerpozhi eNvizhiyaE
  
  Engae viyarvai theerndhu pOgumO
  Angae mazhaikkodu maamugilaE
  
  Engae yaezhayar aduppu thoongumO
  Angae pattruga thee chudaraE
  
  Engae kandrugal miccham vaikkumO
  Angae sindhuga karavaigalaE
  
  Engae manidhargal saivamAvarO
  Angae paaduga paravaigalaE
  
  Engae uzhaippavar uyaram urarumO
  Angae suzhaluga aAlaigalaE
  
  Engae vidhaithavar vayiru kulirumO
  Angae vilaindhudu neLmaNiyaE
  
  Engae kangalil kaLLamillaiyO
  Angae thOndruga kanavugalaE
  
  Engae uravugal ozhukkamaagumO
  Angae viLLedu manmadhanaE
  
  Engae payanam meLga koodumO
  Angae neeluga saalaigalaE
  
  Engae maNkudam kathirukkumO
  Angae paravuga aARugalaE
  
  
  
  
  
  

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