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ARR's interview in Hindu .....-Intresting Point

Topic started by MumbaiRamki (@ 63.186.8.168) on Sun Dec 12 18:45:07 EST 2004.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

http://www.hindu.com/mp/2004/12/13/stories/2004121300340100.htm

1.The 'Yuhi chaala ' song from swades was orginally composed for Lagaan .

2.Harris Jeyaraj worked with him only for 2 films !!

3.On today's music -
"What is today's Tamil film music all about? They are nothing more than fast numbers or remix downloaded. What took me weeks to make music for a "Gentleman" or "Rangeela" can be done today if you have a computer, software and then pre-set the rhythms and you have a disco number! Fast music is no big deal today as anyone can become a music director"

4.Rajiv Menon film in tamizh .

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• From: Jambu Paran (@ 203.123.16.92) on: Sun Dec 12 23:24:55 EST 2004
  
  porae pokka parthae...
  ARR "acchuuum"-ne thumbina kude...
  
  "ARR doesn't know sangeetham, his Achuum lacks enough passsion. And it spoils x raaga." appadinnu oru comment adipange pole iruke...
  
  
  but onnu mattum nalla teriyuthe...to sue ARR any lawyers can simply consult any Anti ARR guys here...
  
  1) The issue was HJ being the main source for ARR's hit in the past!....when this is cleared...the attention dverted to..
  2) ARR commenting on other MD's....and stuff like that!...
  
  mmmm...nandu kathaithaan!
  
  
• From: observer (@ 63.211.104.194) on: Sun Dec 12 23:27:32 EST 2004
  
  Piratheepan:
  
  Clearly we disagree on how we interpret Rahman's words, I think he IS praising himself, and I'm sure objective readers would construe his statements in much the same way I did. But I've said my piece, and there is no further point to pursuing this particular line of the argument.
  
  On another note I'll say this: Is there anything more annoying in the world than mentally-challenged journos asking composers their opinions about their own songs? I can see that everyone would be interested in knowing the genesis of certain songs, in the details of the composing/recording process for hit numbers, but to ask whether the composer likes his own song smacks so much of redundancy and laziness that I'm speechless with irritation.
  
  
  
• From: DD (@ 210.187.110.30) on: Sun Dec 12 23:30:59 EST 2004
  
  RAHMAN NERULAVAHTHU UNGGAKITTA UNMAYA SONNA KUDA
  NEENGA OTTUKAMATTINGADA...
  
  
• From: observer (@ 63.211.104.194) on: Sun Dec 12 23:54:10 EST 2004
  
  Alright, how is this as one possible correct answer to "feedback" questions:
  
  Stupid journo: "Sir, please give feedback on your latest release (since I can't be bothered to do it myself)?
  
  ARR: "Once my songs are released I avoid thinking about them. I compose them with heart and soul, but to hold onto them, or even to comment upon them is to tamper with reality in a way that is detrimental to my health as a composer. I'd much rather devote all my energies to my next job. Why don't you tell me what your feedback is? That to me is infinitely more interesting than my opinion."
  
  
• From: observer (@ 63.211.104.194) on: Mon Dec 13 00:35:44 EST 2004
  
  Let me ventilate some more on my grievances.
  
  Rahman's comment in the Sun interview, very soon after the CBSO contretemps, about other MDs has not received the attention it demands. At one point he says that TFM MDs don't compose their own songs, their assistants do it for them. This is a very controversial statement, yet it passed unnoticed. I won't go into why it went unnoticed for now, let me focus on the ARR's words here.
  
  What does he really mean? Is he saying that Vidyasagar, say, is letting his rhythm programmer craft the beats, assigning his strings orchestrator to compose the string parts, and so on? But then, much the same could be said of Rahman himself. After all ARR credits several people for their contributions on his albums. So this is not really a criticism that Rahman can afford to make.
  
  Perhaps he means that Vidyasagar, say (again!), assigns the whole song to his assistant, and then coolly releases said song under his own, ie Vidyasagar's, name. Is this possible? Well I wouldn't discount it totally. Similar accusations have in the past floated about Nadeem-Shravan, little-known composers have sued them for "stealing" their songs, and passing them off as NS compositions. We have all heard of tune-banks, I'm pretty sure the concept exists, though the highly intelligent journalists that teem in our media will never ferret these things out. Yet Rahman complaining about this is futile since that same talented assistant working under Vidyasagar will soon break out on his own, and will become another competitor. But the entire pool of composers has not really increased, whether that assistant labours in VS's shadow or strikes out on his own. So if Rahman is implying that the talent of VS (you know the drill) is illusory since he's not really composing his songs, the fact remains that the talent does factually exist. All Rahman has done is shift the location of talent from VS to an unknown assistant. Rahman's argument is just a feeble smokescreen, he's not really disproved the existence of non-Rahman talent (even genius) in the scene as a whole.
  
  I urge ARR-fans to respond to my points. And, please, no disrespect and profanity. I will not respond to attacks of any sort, or any reply that lacks substance. We all need resolution on this matter.
  
  
• From: Raja (@ 202.144.86.147) on: Mon Dec 13 02:09:41 EST 2004
  
  
  "What is today's Tamil film music all about? They are nothing more than fast numbers or remix downloaded..."
  
  hmm...When IR told the same thing in his interviews, he was termed arrogant or that he is jealous of ARR's fame..
  Now what..? Is ARR jealous of HJ or YSR..?
  IR sonnaa mattum thappu...?
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 60.48.84.248) on: Mon Dec 13 04:15:19 EST 2004
  
  compare the songs now & the time ARR arrived...now they songs have low standard of lyrics & beats..what more??a prostitute song manage to become a super duper hit (cheena thaana)..isnt it so wonderful??and chinna chinna aasai was about a gal's dream,with amazing lyrics & music...so??what u say now?
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 60.48.84.248) on: Mon Dec 13 04:15:58 EST 2004
  
  4got to mention : Apadi poode...what kinda words r those??and all now days fast ghana are all REHARSH OF OLD IR's TUNES!
  
  
• From: vanavil (@ 202.162.56.11) on: Mon Dec 13 04:20:47 EST 2004
  
  raja is absolutely right. During ARR's initial days, IR said the same thing and now ARR himself is repeating the same.. if IR says such a thing then its frustration but if ARR says then its maturity.. ummm history repeats..
  
  
• From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.37.14) on: Mon Dec 13 05:18:52 EST 2004
  
  What dinesh said is absolutely rite. Anyone with common sense would understand the difference between "Chinna Chinna Aasai" and "Cheena Thana".
  
  Ofcourse someone people are born without common sense. What a pity?
  
  
• From: Raja (@ 202.144.86.147) on: Mon Dec 13 05:25:18 EST 2004
  
  Dinesh,
  
  "...song manage to become a super duper hit (cheena thaana)..isnt it so wonderful??"
  
  These kind of songs have come out from all TFM MDs at all times..why this sudden awakening and awareness on your part now..? :)
  
  Did ARR churn out only melodies like "chinna chinna aasai"..? how will you categorise the songs and visuals like "Aadi paaru mangaathaa.." from May Maadham ?
  
  
  
  
• From: Jambu paran (@ 203.123.16.92) on: Mon Dec 13 05:34:54 EST 2004
  
  "Aadi paare mangatta,
  yennai vanthe aadu sonnathe, calcutta"...
  
  with such a lyrics..i can sing that song anytime in any function in front of my family members, especially akka n thangachi anytime.....
  
  but "Cheena thaan"..i will sing only when i'm out partying ....
  
  
• From: comedy (@ 202.156.2.218) on: Mon Dec 13 05:37:42 EST 2004
  
  HEY idoit's.... DID U'LL HEARD RAHMAN SAY THOSE WORDS. DO U'LL KNOW THAT HEARING A WORD FROM A PERSON MOUTH IS A MUCH BETTER WAY THEN READING WHAT HE SAYS.... RAHMAN IS HUMBLE AND HE MIGHT HAVE SAY IT IN A MUCH PROFFESIONAL WAY, BUT THE INTERVIEW PERSON JUS WROTE IT LIKE TAT...
  
  SO THIS IS A LAME THREAD TO CARRY ON. IF WANT TO CARRY ON, BY ALL MEANS... WITH A RAHMAN'S VOICE AUDIO PROOF.
  
  
• From: s (@ 203.199.202.97) on: Mon Dec 13 06:27:55 EST 2004
  
  "What is today's Tamil film music all about? They are nothing more than fast numbers or remix downloaded..."
  
  This was alredy told by IR long before.So nothing new
  
  
• From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.37.14) on: Mon Dec 13 07:11:16 EST 2004
  
  s:
  "This was alredy told by IR long before.So nothing new"
  
  But there is one major difference. IR is someone who was unable to do songs of that type where as ARR is the one who defined 'fast numbers'. Therefore such a comment from an expert is more believable and acceptable.
  
  
• From: Raja (@ 202.144.86.147) on: Mon Dec 13 07:25:27 EST 2004
  
  Guess Me,
  
  Good ! ARR "defined" fast numbers and now he dislikes what he defined before..?
  romba thelivaa irukkeengappaa..
  kuppura vizhundhaalum meesaiyila mann ottalai..We accept.
  
  
• From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.37.14) on: Mon Dec 13 07:32:10 EST 2004
  
  Raja:
  "Good ! ARR "defined" fast numbers and now he dislikes what he defined before"
  
  Your misinterpretation continues...
  
  ARR defined fast numbers with excellent beats, catchy rhythm and unmatched orchestration. Nowadays we dont hear any of these 3 in the 'new generation' fast numbers. May be thats why ARR made such a comment. Besides, todays composers remix their own tunes and present it as a new song (best example HJ).
  
  Clear?
  
  
• From: Raja (@ 202.144.86.147) on: Mon Dec 13 08:17:37 EST 2004
  
  "ARR defined fast numbers with excellent beats, catchy rhythm and unmatched orchestration. Nowadays we dont hear any of these 3 in the 'new generation' fast numbers. May be thats why ARR made such a comment. Besides, todays composers remix their own tunes and present it as a new song (best example HJ)."
  
  You are very correct provided you do the following.
  Just susbstitute in your above statement - all ARRs with IRs and HJ with ARR. very clear
  
  
  
  
• From: vanavil (@ 202.162.56.11) on: Mon Dec 13 08:36:28 EST 2004
  
  ARR presented Fast numbers with "PERFECT ORCHESTRATION"????
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 68.38.226.171) on: Mon Dec 13 08:49:51 EST 2004
  
  Observer,
  naan intha discussion-oda heat-a konjam anaika parthaen avalavuthaan.. just for the comment on "downloaded songs".. Google is a better search engine than Microsoft's...
  But seriously, do we need a discussion on who told what, btw, now-a-days, TFM music is junk most part, somebody threads along the way to give brilliant music once in a while.. so let us take it at that value point and forget about everything, enjoy the music!!
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 60.48.216.196) on: Mon Dec 13 09:08:30 EST 2004
  
  yea..?suddently atacking ARR songs,what bout Nila Kaiyithe,neeram nalla neram...
  
  or .. nethu rathiri ammmaaaa..tookem ponathee ammmaaa...
  
  

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