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Which is your favourite Raaga and why??????

Topic started by peeps (@ 202.54.13.6) on Mon Feb 5 01:26:22 EST 2001.
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Hi All,

I dont know anything about carnatic music but from various articles in the internet i could know which song was based oin which raaga.I found that 75% of my fav songs are based on "MOHANAM".For example geetham sangeetham,ninnukori varnam,nilavu thoongum neram,kanmaniye kathal enbathu,idhayam oru kovil etc etc...are all my top fav's..
So can everybody tell which raaga is their favourite and quote some songs...

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• From: nandu (@ 202.54.100.149) on: Tue Feb 20 22:44:18 EST 2001
  
  Many many thanx, Omega, Geetha and Neels. I am learning fast. K.L.Saigal's oldie, BABUL MORA also seems to be in Sindhu Bhairavi. Your comments?
  And thanx, cram!
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Wed Feb 21 05:56:49 EST 2001
  
  was watching thiruvilayadal this morning. two golden voices (actually 3, illa 4..) reminded me of how they have enriched TFM. KB Sundarambal, TR Mahalingam, Balamuralikrishna, Sirkazhi...what a landmark this movie was for TFM.
  
  
• From: Siva (@ 203.197.134.244) on: Thu Feb 22 23:07:24 EST 2001
  
  Aabheri is my favourite raga. I believe it was once believed in tfm that this raga is a lucky raga and melodies like Vaarai nee Vaarai, Anbe en aaramudh vaarai, Sarasa mohana, Singara velane deva, proves it. I do not know why such ragas are not being used by music directors now.
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Feb 23 07:27:11 EST 2001
  
  siva
  
  isn't ARR's "kannodu kaanbathellam" set to abheri?
  
  
• From: Omega (@ 205.227.43.15) on: Fri Feb 23 18:34:07 EST 2001
  
  
  cram and siva,
  
  what about 'guruvayoorappa' 'guruvayoorappa' song?
  abheri??
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.87.3) on: Wed Feb 28 03:24:38 EST 2001
  
  Any instances of the usage of raga SRI in TFM?
  This raga hasn't been explored well in classical music as well. 'EntarO mahAnu Bhavulu' and a popular varNam being the only reference point for many.
  
  Madhyamavathi, a raga that comes pretty close to Sri has been used extensively in TFM.
  
  To me, the song from Imayam, 'Gangai Yamunai Ingu thAn Sangamam' sounds like Sri.
  Any opinion?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.22) on: Wed Feb 28 04:15:08 EST 2001
  
  My fave would be Charukesi and Simmendra Madhyamam. But I do feel that Sivaranjani is the oft used raga in Indian films. Someone had mentioned in Nayandi Darbar that Mayamalava Gowlai is the most used raaga in songs from middle east!
  
  Back to my raagas, IR's 'aananda raagam' from Panneer pushpangal is my fave for simmendra madhyamam. IR has scores of songs for charukesi as everybody has already mentioned. But his song 'chakara katti' from Ulley velia is my personal fave! Lovely use of chaarukesi!
  
  Has IR done any film songs in raaga revathy?
  
  --Karthik
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Wed Feb 28 05:27:31 EST 2001
  
  Hindolam...mmm...
  some of beautiful songs in TFM history have come out of this raaga...
  
  i quote them for S.L. Ramakrishnan's(Classical Illayaraaja) mouth:
    1) Sreedevi en vazhvil
    2) Dharisanam kidaikaadha
    3) om namachivaaya
    4) Naanaga naan
    5) pothi vacha malligai mottu
    6) Unnal mudiyum thambi thambi
    7) naan thedum sevvandhi poovidhu
    8) Kannae unai thedugiren vaa
    9) o janani en suram nee
  
  
  Could any of you list Songs in Hindolam by MSV(-TKR), GR, KVM, ARR, Deva(!)
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Wed Feb 28 06:46:57 EST 2001
  
  Karthik
  
  IR also used simmendra madhyamam in a classic song from Oruvar Vazhum Alayam, Nee pournami endrum en nenjile.
  as for revathy, i have been told that sangeetha jadhi mullai from Kadhal oviyam is in revathy. pundits, pls clarify.
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.87.3) on: Thu Mar 1 01:39:23 EST 2001
  
  cram,
  'Sangeeta JAthi Mullai' is indeed Revathy.
  
  I thought "Amma Azhage Ulagin oLiyE' from the same film, 'Kadhal Oviyam' was also set to Revathy. Only later did I realize that it has no 'Ni1', but a 'Dha1'. (refer to the ending of Sangeetam En JeevanE' in 'Dha1'). That should make it raga MALAHARI.
  
  Remember the popular Geetams in Malahari, 'LambOdhara Lagu Migara' and 'Paduma NAbhA Parama PurushA' (the former also featured in the sound track of AlaigaL Oyvatyhillai' when actress Radha learns music).
  
  
  The other instance of Revathy is in the famous Visu comedy, 'MaNal KayiRu'. It had a song, 'Mandira Punnagai Minnidum Menakai'. MD: M. S. Vishwanathan.
  
  
• From: xyz (@ ) on: Wed Jun 13 01:46:08 EDT 2001
  
  Has sivaranjani been used in Poongadhave. If yes, thats a rare raaga to use for such a song. IR is brilliant
  
  
• From: Gayathri (@ 64.26.200.47) on: Wed Jun 13 02:25:48 EDT 2001
  
  Poongadhave from Nizhalgal is Maya Malava Gowlai.
  
  
• From: Gayathri (@ 64.26.200.47) on: Wed Jun 13 02:26:52 EDT 2001
  
  Sorry to digress..but i was listening to chappa chappa charka chale and 2) Mahi Mahi re ( a recent number by Udit Narayan)..r they both in Revathi?
  
  
• From: comment (@ 65.9.136.158) on: Wed Jun 13 07:41:05 EDT 2001
  
  
  To me, the song from Imayam, 'Gangai Yamunai Ingu thAn Sangamam' sounds like Sri.
  Any opinion?
  yes, you are right,
  like wise sriraman sridevi from dowri kalyanam has sri ragam in it.
  both are by msv.
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 64.133.24.6) on: Mon Jun 18 11:21:33 EDT 2001
  
  Recently i had the great oppurtuniy to listen to the song "Sangathil(Santhathil??) paadatha kavithai Angathil yaar thanthathu" from Auto Raja for the first time in Sun TV(Vijayakanth hits)..
  Great song..very different from other songs..Can anyone please say which Raagam it is based??
  But the picturisation was worst...I loved this song more than the malayalam version "Thumbi vaa" by S.Janaki..
  
  
• From: A.G.Kutty (@ 216.72.117.187) on: Tue Jun 19 16:50:39 EDT 2001
  
  Madhyamavathi is a ragam which leaves the audience in a peaceful state of mind. Muscians do not sing further after they complete a mangalam in Madhyamavathi.
  
  Neelambari, similarly puts the listener , into a peaceful, sleeping mood. Make your mind at ease.
  
  Two great ragas, indeed.
  
  
• From: Normal Man (@ 210.84.144.57) on: Tue Jun 19 21:41:23 EDT 2001
  
  Reetha Gowlai for me.
  
  
• From: AV (@ 24.15.81.189) on: Wed Jun 20 11:24:15 EDT 2001
  
  One of my favourite ragam is Chala Naatai.
  
  The song "Panni vizhum Malar Vanam" is a good example
  
  
• From: reema (@ ) on: Tue Aug 7 22:09:03 EDT 2001
  
  Do you know anyone that teaches carnatic songs. I'm sixteen years old and am dieing to learn to sing carnatic songs.
  
  
• From: purv (@ ) on: Mon Feb 17 20:04:20 EST 2003
  
  peeps, Interesting thread! Here's my take. I have a few favorite RAAGAs, and they are, in random order (with 3 or 4 or so examples):
  
  1. Hindolam
  - Pongiyathe Kaathal Vellum (Manukkul Vairam)
  - Ammammammaa (Thaalaattu Paadavaa)
  - Sri Devi En Vaazhvil (Ilamai Kolam)
  - Ennathil Etho Sillendruthu (Kallukkul Eeram)
  - Vantha Naal Murai (Paava Manippu)
  - Unnal Mudiyum Thambi (UMT)
  2. Sudhasaveri
  - Aasai Kiliye (Thambikku Endha Ooru)
  - Innarul Tharum (Athma)
  - Malargalil Aadum (Kalyanaraman)
  - Kaathal Mayakkam (Pudhumai Penn)
  - Unakkaagave (Rasigan Oru Rasigai)
  - Kalakalakam Maniyosai (Eeramaana Rojaave)
  3. Panthuvarali
  4. Mohanam
  -- according to me, these raagas has the greatest scope for sweet flavor in songs.
  
  
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.12.102) on: Tue Feb 18 11:03:06 EST 2003
  
  IR has tuned a wonderful Revathi raaga song in film 'Oru Odai Nadiyagiradu' song 'Kanavu onru thonude
  athai yaarodu solla' sung by SJ.It is a rare gem.
  IMO 'Vizhiyil vizhundu idayam nuzhaindu' song from Alaigal Oyevathillai is also from Hindolam/ Sudhadhanyasi.
  Similarly, 'Metti oli kaatrodu' from film Metti should also be either Hindolam/Sudhadhanyasi.
  Experts please clarify
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.12.102) on: Tue Feb 18 11:13:31 EST 2003
  
  Madhyamavathi and SriRagam have close semblance. Example of some lovely songs in these raagas :
  1. Film Dharmayudham song - Aagaya gangai music IR sung by - SJ,MV
  2. Film Mullum malarum song - Adi penne ponunjal music IR sung by - Jency
  3. Film Ponnu oorukku pudusu song - Solai kuyile kaalai kathire music IR sung by - SPShailaja
  4. Film AzhageUnnaiAraadikiren song - En Kalyaana vaibogam music IR sung by - VaniJayaram
  5. Film Nenjirukum varai song - 'Muthukalo kangal music MSV sung by - PS,TMS
  6. Film ??? song - Amma Amma lady doctor music IR sung by - SPB,Chitra
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 203.199.209.101) on: Tue Feb 18 22:33:37 EST 2003
  
  "2. Sudhasaveri
  - Aasai Kiliye (Thambikku Endha Ooru) "
  
  Aasai kiLiyae Kaapi-nnu padichcha gnaabagam (in S.L.Ramakrishnan's Classical Illayaraaja series).
  
  paeriyOrgaLae indha sandhaegaththai udanadiyaaga theerthu vaikkavum
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.190) on: Wed Feb 19 00:17:48 EST 2003
  
  Kupps,
  
  Aasai Kiliye is Aarabhi. Another Aarabhi is Madurai vazhum Meenatchiye from Pudhupatti Ponnuthayi.
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.12.102) on: Wed Feb 19 11:48:54 EST 2003
  
  There is another Arabi in film Metti
  'Sanga thamizhil paadidum or...' . It is a very sweet song sung by an unknown singer Bramhanand.
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.12.102) on: Wed Feb 19 14:22:16 EST 2003
  
  More additions to Madhyamavathi/SriRagam kind :
  1. Vennilavu kodipathenna (MD IR Film: Chinna maapillai)
  2. Kavithai paadu kuyile kuyile (MD IR Film: Thendral vandu ennai thodum)
  3. Devalogam azhaithaalum (MD TR Film ?? sung by SJ)
  4. Indira logathu sundari (MD TR Film: UUllavarai Usha)
  5. Kuyile Kuyile poonguyile (MD IR Film: Aanpaavam)
  6. Thirummale (MD: MSV sung by VJ Film: Deiva thirumanangal)
  
  
• From: purv (@ 205.231.31.218) on: Wed Feb 19 20:08:34 EST 2003
  
  Sorry. When i tried playing 'Aasai Kiliye' on my electronic keyboard, I couldn't find out where the notes E and B came in. From what I understand, the Aarabhi raagam is a compound raaga having **ascent=Sudhasaveri, descent=Shankarabharanam**.
  
  HAving an electronic keyboard, or any musical instrument for that matter can be a a very useful tool in figuring out raaga's of particular songs. For instance, through experimenting with different raagas on the keyboard, I found the following songs to be in the following raagas:
  
  Ennathil Etho (Kallukkul Eeram)- Hindolam
  Kalakalakum Maniyosai (Eeramaana Rojaave)- Sudhasaveri
  Sri Raamane (Kangalin Vaarthaigal)- Sudhadhanyasi
  Panjuppola Nenju (Punniyavathi)- Sudhasaveri
  etc.
  
  
  Being a MD-in-training, I always want to learn new melodic scales. What notes are in the Sri raagam? Huseni? Varali? Peelu? I would be very happy if someone would pl. reply.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Thu Feb 20 03:33:18 EST 2003
  
  Purv
  
  It sounds Aarabi only and your Suddhsaver/Sankarbaranm theory is right.Cinema usage permits an occasional Ni(B)(to indicate Aarabi pattern ) and an occasional Ga(E) to show signs of Chama too.(Hope your basic starts with Universal C)
  
  To understand the difference play the following songs to get the ragam for "aasaikiliye" right.
  
  Kovil mani oosai -Kizhake pogum rail-SD
  Kannile Kudiyirunth - Imayam-Chama
  Kadhal Mayakkam -Pudhumai penn -This too might get into Aarabhi.Suddha saveri confusion.
  Aadiyile perukkeduthu aadi varum kaveri
  
  
  I dont suggest "Erikarayin mele"(Mudhalali) /Mounathil (noolveli)since you might use Keyboards without "Pitch bender".I have the facility but not comfortable using it.
  
  I suggest a site something like "Bagavdasampradaya" which lists all the rags with their aarohanam and avarohanam.
  
  Sri( 22 Karahrapriya Janyam),Varali(39) must be certinly availble as we have standard carnatic music songs in these ragas like "Entharo".Peelu being the hindustani version may not find a place.
  
  Keyboard usage has really made me too understand music better.But Suddhadhanyasi/Hindolam confusions have always occured initially with older model Keyboards.
  
  Sri Ragam usage i suggest "Deviyar iruvar muruganukku" from Kalaikoil.
  
  
  

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