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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 06:03:45 EDT 2003
  
  Yes Karthik, you are indeed right! I totally agree that this was probably available as a rights-free sample, hence used! It's just that one has to keep drumming the idea of re-using samples and loops to ppl, that I have given up trying to explain this fact! ;)
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 06:06:16 EDT 2003
  
  Dinesh - As requested:
  
  AR Rahman - the first south Asian among the top 500 Earners
  in Sunday Times Pay List 2002
  
  Music director and composer AR Rahman is among the top 10 South Asians earners in the Sunday Times’ Pay List 2002. His earnings of $3 million (£2 million) last year, place him at 377 among the 500. The nine south Asians who earned bigger cheques are:
  
  brothers Gurchait and Gurnaik Chima, in fashion industry. With £9.5 million earnings last year, they are placed at 68th position
  
  entrepreneur Manish Chande with £4.118 million earnings is at 179
  
  businessman Raj Kumar is at 183 with £4 million. He is the Managing Director of a London travel company.
  
  Rana Talwar a former banker, at position 232 (Earnings £3.2 million)
  
  Tom Singh, in clothing industry, at position 253 , earned £2.87 million last year.
  
  Ranjit Boparan (Director, Boparan Holdings) at position 269 with annual earnings of £2.76 million
  
  Baljinder Boparan (co-owner of Boparan Holdings) at position 303 with an income of £2.5 million.
  
  http://www.the-south-asian.com/Nov2002/Coffee-Break-Nov.htm
  
  This was after the BD earnings were taken! And, ARR is not even a resident of UK, but lived there long enough to go in to that Millioniare Bracket -In POUNDS!
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 06:15:01 EDT 2003
  
  I would take this outside the thread, but there are no email addresses provided by Dinesh, fake or real!
  
  Sunday Times Info....Paylist - Search as required!
  
  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,4221,00.html
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 06:16:00 EDT 2003
  
  http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/nov/04rahman.htm
  
  The Rediff version!
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.106) on: Fri May 16 06:38:41 EDT 2003
  
  An,
  
  some of these morons are born with this attitude...
  
  u cant make them understand....
  
  it's never like ARR the best and everyone else sucks.....a die hard ARR fan will never say that..
  
  but u ask any Anti-ARR guy..he will say..everyone else..great..and ARR sucks...
  
  as simple as that..these ppl are not from the same galaxy as ours..they are here to for some undescribeable(is that correct?) reason...
  
  heheheh
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 06:52:19 EDT 2003
  
  Paran - Ha ha LOL
  
  yes, the indescribable reson! ;)
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Fri May 16 08:18:33 EDT 2003
  
  Guys (Dinesh & An)
  
  Take a break ! This forum is totally meant for something different..try to respect the audience as well. lets continue discussing the main forum, which used to be more interesting.
  
  If you still want to discuss only the BD, lets rather discuss if there are any copied songs in it ;-)
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 198.142.204.205) on: Fri May 16 08:47:57 EDT 2003
  
  hello an... who cares abt how much he earns.. i only ask u to prove whether bombay dreams music album(arr's) is successful in uk or not. and asked for the sales figures of bombay dreams music album ok! dont go out of the subject like ..earnings etc etc. If u want give us link abt arr's successful english album sales figures and how successful he is in holiwood :). even in earnings u r only comparing him with south asians.
  hey stupid paran, im not telling arr sucks ok. im only teling his recent albums sucks. and bombay dreams music album is not successful in europe and usa as u and die hard arr fans claims. he cannot become successful in english songs. and no whites are going to bcome arr fans like u. die hard arr fans are keep on saying only arr is good and others sucks.. go to other threads and read u stupid paran. we all noe u r a die hard arr fan.
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 198.142.204.205) on: Fri May 16 08:50:42 EDT 2003
  
  Hey An.. u give ur email address first.
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 09:03:13 EDT 2003
  
  I think from my above post, there is proof that I am not a die hard ARR Fan! Read it Dinesh - you seems to have a problem understanding what is written!
  
  Also, I don't work for RUG or Andrew, to give you exact sales figures of albums. But if ARR can be worth 2 Million, he must have made enough from it!
  
  HOLLYWOOD is spelt like that, not "holiwood"!
  
  RAJESH - I am back to the thread, did you not see my post!
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 09:07:11 EDT 2003
  
  Dinesh - get some help in reading English:
  
  "the first south Asian among the top 500 Earners"
  
  That's all the Top 500, not just Asians!
  
  Also, where did U C me putting down other MD's?
  
  Rajesh - I think you are referring to this thread, as opposed to the forum itself! ;)
  
  Did you think there were copied songs in BD? Please list, as I can't find anything apart from some 'inspirations', which normally stem from another song of the same Raga (Scale)!
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 09:07:47 EDT 2003
  
  DINESH - Learn to read and comprehend!
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 09:09:11 EDT 2003
  
  AMAZON Top 20 Musicals Chart - updated weekly:
  
  http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/31658/ref%3Dbr%5Fbx%5F1%5F2/202-6387923-6777460
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 09:16:25 EDT 2003
  
  Speaking of copies, I think one of the most disappointing one was Vidhyasagar's "copy & paste" of FUEGO by the girl group BOND! He used the 'slice' in the beginning of 'Enna Seyya' and during 'Buck Buck' from Parthiban Kanavu! IMo, it was not even necessary, as the melodies of the songs were very nice!
  
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Fri May 16 10:09:35 EDT 2003
  
  An,
  
  No, I did not mean that. that was just an attempt to bring you back in line :-) honestly, i haven't heard it yet.
  
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 198.142.204.205) on: Fri May 16 10:23:41 EDT 2003
  
  hello i din tell u r a die had arr fan. i only told paran is a die hard arr. hello if u write like uni assignments no one can read comprehend. make it short. i din ask howmuch arr earned ok! ill make that clear. i only ask u to give figures (if u can) to proove arr english albums success(if it is). as i told u and to die hard arr fans no whites going become arr fans. and he cannot become successful in hollywood (pls check the spelling).
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 10:34:39 EDT 2003
  
  But Rajesh, I had not only apologised for the digressions and posted some relevant stuff anyway. The reason all this 'fake' Dinesh stuff started was because of a comment he had make!
  
  Will the real Dinesh Please Stand Up, Please stand up, Please stand up! ;)
  
  FUEGO LINK - http://www.bond-music.com/
  
  
• From: An (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Fri May 16 10:47:34 EDT 2003
  
  As I said D (and as for my writing style, I think most people find it clear - by no means like Uni assignments, I am wayyyyyy past that Man!), U should read carefully and look @ links I give U:
  
  I shall Repeat - BD is CURRENTLY the TOP MUSICAL ALBUM sold @ Amazon - now I don't think it's all the Asians in the world who buy there!
  
  AMAZON Top 20 Musicals Chart - updated weekly:
  
  http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/31658/ref%3Dbr%5Fbx%5F1%5F2/202-6387923-6777460
  
  My advice, always substanciate your claims! "Ippo kadhaigal mookuku keela varadhu"..... At least "Naan Thamil endru Namburelaa?"
  
  PS: How many White musicians do you know? How many White ppl do you know who are not ARR fans? I know lots who are and also Black ppl who are and also Chinese ppl who are! And these people range from Indian to totally Non Indian and Musical to totally non-Musical!
  
  So, R U 'fake' Dinesh or not?
  
  
  
• From: kum (@ 202.56.193.78) on: Fri May 16 12:51:55 EDT 2003
  
  An,
  I dont find anything wrong in what dinesh is asking. Show him the figures of sales like in UK top 10. If its there, I will be happy. Dont give amazon links, which is not really sorted based on sales.
  
  
• From: Angeli (@ 213.123.112.187) on: Fri May 16 12:58:25 EDT 2003
  
  kum:
  
  Then how does Amazon classify a top album, if not by sales?
  
  Also, this album came out last year, so finding charts on it is very difficult. I doubt that any of us will be able to.
  
  Lets face it, you people will never accept that even to be listed in Amazon is a great feat, let alon be listed as Number1!
  
  An - this is a useless battle. Best give it up!
  
  It is certainly an un-reasonable request.
  
  However, on Amazon, it
  
  
• From: Angeli (@ 213.123.112.187) on: Fri May 16 13:00:02 EDT 2003
  
  Read
  
  However, on Amazon, it states the release date as - 17 June, 2002
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 167.202.196.72) on: Fri May 16 14:17:32 EDT 2003
  
  Guys, while humming the song 'Keladi en radhaye' from 'Gopura vasalile', had a feel that it follows the pattern of 'Yaaradi nee mohini' to some extent in pallavi. am sure it's not a copy, maybe coincidental. what you experts feel ?
  
  btw, if this is not the appropriate thread for this question, please bear with me..mainly to Dinesh & An ;-) (vidratha illai poliruku !)
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 61.8.210.74) on: Sat May 17 03:02:34 EDT 2003
  
  "Considering that Bombay Dreams composer AR Rahmen is one of such a phenomenon in India, it is odd that much of this music comes across as cheap imitation."
  
  "The show itself makes up for the lack of musical originality with some stunning choreography, but ultimately leaves one wishing that they had just brought over a...." - Antonia Couling (Amazon review)
  
  http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/music/B000066SBM/reviews/026-6375969-4196449
  
  My gosh!! This is how westerners feel abt ARR music? BD has exposed that. And that too from a westerner. Well so much for die hard ARR fans trying to convince themselves(forget abt convincing others!) how good BD is.
  
  

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