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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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Some composers to check out (in no particular order): Jay, Srikanth, Ganesh, Eswar, Sridhar Seetharaman, Kumar, Rjay. Vishwesh Obla

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• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Mon Aug 4 12:25:41 EDT 2003
  
  hello all,
  hope everyone's doin' fine!
  
  I have a new song called Pleasant Evening.
  I always thought I posted this before but I never did. Hope ya'll like it and do send in your thoughts
  
  Pleasant Evening is in
  http://www.geocities.com/dbhowman
  
  I think mp3.com is back up again...looks like there is an update there too...A song based on Raga HamasaNadham....Chek that out as well..
  
  http://www.mp3.com/DivakarBhowman
  
  Thanks
  -Divakar
  
  
• From: Isai Rasigai (@ 4.64.201.124) on: Mon Aug 4 15:11:06 EDT 2003
  
  Eswar - fantastic composition and excellent singing. I have listened to this song about 10 times now. Awesome... looking forward to more from you... wish it had couple more charaNams... very pleasant melody and brisk tempo..
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Mon Aug 4 17:35:17 EDT 2003
  
  Does anybody have a suggestion for a site where I could possibly upload an mp3 which can be accessed by all without hassles ?
  
  
• From: Shahul A.M. (@ 203.198.126.142) on: Tue Aug 5 00:05:45 EDT 2003
  
  Hello Eswar...
  Where can i download your song?
  please do let me know.
  
  Thanks
  
  
• From: Eswar (@ 202.88.242.236) on: Tue Aug 5 01:56:27 EDT 2003
  
  vijay, Da Vinci,
  
  You are most welcome.
  
  Jay,
  
  Valare Sukam thanne. Avide sugamano? Thanks for the tip. I will try to get one good one soon.
  
  Isai Rasigai,
  
  Thank you for your appreciation. I hope to please more ears.
  
  Shahul,
  
  Check out http://music.beyondaspirations.com/music/Thanka.mp3
  
  For older ones. http://music.beyondaspirations.com/
  
  Regards,
  Eswar
  
  
• From: Jay (@ 66.28.42.140) on: Tue Aug 5 08:36:16 EDT 2003
  
  MS:
  try nowhereradio.com they're good but I think they have a 15mb limit.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.123) on: Tue Aug 5 11:22:15 EDT 2003
  
  Eswar
  
  Good song. Your song sounds complete, in terms of good structuring (intro, breaks, interludes, etc) The drumming is lively too.
  
  The only complaint is the noisyness of the recording. THe mix is not clear. THe instruments dont stand out clearly.
  
  Let me explain how I create clarity. After
  quite a bit of struggle and trying to avoid any expenditute, I came up with this way that gives
  good results. If my recordings are dull, it is
  because of the sound source, if they are clear, it is because of this strategy:
  
  1. After creating midi sequence of the whole song, I take each track and play it in solo and record using the sound cards recorder. (I use a $150 sound blaster live). So I will have vocal.wav, guitar. wav, piano.wav, Drum.wav, Perc.wav. (drum will have only kick and lo bongo. Perc will have Snare, Hihats, hi bongo.)
  
  2. Now I cut each of this track into sections using Sound forge that came with the sound card. For
  instance, pallavi.wav, anupallavi.wav, charanam 1 part 1.wav, charanam 1 part 2.wav.
  
  3. Now is the fun part. I try to enhance each part now.
  
  Load pallavi.wav into soundforge and then do the following:
  add reverb
  add a delay copy with decayed volume (like a subtle echo)
  Band pass filter it. (I will explain this step little later)
  
  Now the pallavi should sound much better than the first recording you had. I rename this pallavi_processed.wav.
  
  4. After creating processed versions of each of the loops, I use Acid Music ($50 from Sonic foundry) to paint these loops into a song. and mix it.
  
  Here I can draw envelopes to each loop volume and stereo, panning)
  
  This can export to wav or mp3.
  
  The secret of this technique is polish each piece in isolation and then bring it in. I do not use the live reverb or delay plugins because my PC is a lame 166MHz Celeron. With this minimal resources, I have created not-so-bad mixes in
  Flowing with the river, Udayamagum velaiyil,
  and Once before and temptation.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.123) on: Tue Aug 5 11:36:29 EDT 2003
  
  How to make instruments stand out?
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  Film music relies on multiple instrumets playing multiple layers simultaneously to create the immersion effect. Originally this idea came from classical symphonies. There the mixing was simplified by organizing instruments into sections Brass. Woodwinds, Strings, Percussion etc and seating them such that soft instruments like flute will be closer to the listener and hard ones will be farther away. In addition, The composer has to carefully write the music such that, when flutes play, there are very few other blaring instruments etc.
  
  However, when you try to do this using a midi sequence, as you keep adding tracks, the results gets muddled up.
  
  Only way to clarify the mix is to assign different
  domains for each of our instruments. Like different channels in which these instruments talk.
  
  This is done by frequency filtering (equalization).
  
  I generally group instruments into 5 bands to get quick results, even though professional mixes
  might use 7 to 15 bands.
  
  Bass
  High Bass
  Middle
  Low Treble
  High Treble.
  
  I have arrived at my own frequency ranges for each after painful trial and error (all those nice articles on the net about mixing, dont help much in practice!!).
  
  I then assign an instrument into one of these bands. For instance, vocal will be in the middle and low treble. Guitar will be in High bass and Middle and High Treble. Kick drum will be only in bass and hihats only in the High Treble.
  
  Using Sound forge Graphic equalizer, I filter out the tracks accordingly. So my filtered version of processed_kick_drum will have most of it in the low bass region. When you now add these tracks together, there is not much interference across the instruments.
  
  Remember that any such filtering is destructive.
  YOu will lose some qualities of the instrument, but in final analysis, it is more important to make overall music sound clear than have an instrument sound most pristine.
  
  Teamwork, what do you say!
  
  
• From: srik (@ 64.80.98.165) on: Tue Aug 5 12:09:55 EDT 2003
  
  ravi, are u at work?, i tried calling you , please do call me when you get time.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.123) on: Tue Aug 5 12:14:00 EDT 2003
  
  Srik, I will
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Tue Aug 5 12:23:23 EDT 2003
  
  rjay superosuper
  I am making my first step in midi,I will try out your suggestions
  thanks
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Tue Aug 5 14:44:27 EDT 2003
  
  Ok..here at last, I have something from my side. I had a casual jamming session with my friends (srinath and others) at charlotte. Sang some songs after a long day at laaaate night. Two from
  the session:
  
  mandram vandha - http://dhool.com/MS/jam/mandram.mp3
  
  geetham sangeetham - http://dhool.com/MS/jam/geetham1.mp3
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.10.164) on: Tue Aug 5 15:27:24 EDT 2003
  
  MS, you are gifted with nice voice...Geetham Sangeetham is very nice...very melodious and precision on notes...for singing this kind of great melodies, you don't need anything else - Just Jam it and swirl the listeners...recording was too loud for me. But i still enjoyed by reducing the volume to almost 0.25 cents...It's Good.
  
  
• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Tue Aug 5 15:43:41 EDT 2003
  
  Wow! MS I am impressed. I liked both the songs that you sang, especially Mandram vandha, the starting is excellent! ....Great melodies and your singing is so nice....on a side note Great Recording voice too!
  
  
• From: Radhika (@ 68.162.17.245) on: Tue Aug 5 16:05:42 EDT 2003
  
  MS
  Excellent Singing. Wow!!! With that voice, why were you silent for so long?
  Looking forward to more songs from you. I am truly impressed!!!
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Tue Aug 5 17:15:22 EDT 2003
  
  MS, Just listened to your songs.. You have a very melodious voice. It sounded so unique... why didn't you try approaching our TFM MDs?? Really amazing. The recording was so pure.. It would have been nicer if you just found a way to delete the breathing sound between the lines... Great stuff!
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.123) on: Tue Aug 5 18:08:16 EDT 2003
  
  Jay, Radhika, Udhaya
  
  Listened to Pani Thirai. Excellent job!
  
  Jay, you have kept the mood and subtlety of music. Minimalistic! Lyrical imagery is very good, however, singability of the lyrics can be improved a bit. Good job!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Tue Aug 5 19:11:33 EDT 2003
  
  MS, the songs have come out very well. Although I have listened to you sing these in person several times,its much better to hear it when recorded with a proper mic and such. Store these files away safely for future auditions :-)
  
  
• From: Jay. (@ 208.48.228.224) on: Tue Aug 5 20:15:06 EDT 2003
  
  rjay..Thanks for the feedback.
  
  MS: Well sung!
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Tue Aug 5 22:06:42 EDT 2003
  
  thx folks. I have been only commenting on your works without being productive. SO I thought a li'l effort shd be put by me b4 I make any further comments on your upcoming works :-) anyway it was a jamming session and we did not really care much to control the volume levels or keep the beat etc. Was more for the heat of the moment :-) Good to hear it has come out acceptably.
  
  
• From: Eswar (@ 202.88.242.236) on: Wed Aug 6 02:13:18 EDT 2003
  
  rjay,
  
  Thanks for your instructive and constructive criticism, and your solution to it. My style is a little different that, I don't work with MIDI, and I do all the filtering work (except equalizing) in FLStudio. I equalize it in a different software (GoldWave). I do the initial echo stuff in GoldWave, after recording. I am releasing a new song for Aug 15th. I hope to implement your methods to the max in that song. I will upload it once I finish.
  
  Thank you very much.
  
  Regards,
  Eswar
  
  

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