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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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Some composers to check out (in no particular order): Jay, Srikanth, Ganesh, Eswar, Sridhar Seetharaman, Kumar, Rjay. Vishwesh Obla

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Responses:

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• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Sun Aug 3 00:08:58 EDT 2003
  
  Eswar, very good composition. If the singer is just a 17-year old she has a promising future.Its diffciult to hear melodies like this even in TFM these days with the trend shifting towards lot of sounds effects/gimmicks.Sometimes I wish some of you guys had all the instrumentalists/recording facilities/professional singers that some of these TFM MDs have :-)
  
  Aditya, I would request you to write once in a while about the kind of instruments/software you use, the background you have in music and possibly sketch out the thought process from scratch in composing one of your songs(if it is possible), similar to how rjay did in the Composing secrets thread. That way, it would be a lot more informative,interesting and useful to many others like me. You could treat it as a sort of contribution towards TFMDF :-)
  If you feel it would be a digression in this thread pl write it here
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/27664.12.45.43.html
  
  (If you had already written about it somewhere before pl. give me a pointer to it).
  
  I request others here to join in too
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Sun Aug 3 00:16:08 EDT 2003
  
  Aditya, your name should be up there in the list at the top of the page.
  
  MS/bb, can you please take care of this?
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 68.62.91.125) on: Sun Aug 3 10:38:05 EDT 2003
  
  Vijay, i have mentioned earlier in this forum about what you have asked me now. Anyway i will try to do it as and when it's appropriate.
  
  Divakar Bhowman name should be up there in the list...
  
  Sometime back MS has already asked about having a name in the list...I missed out responding to him that time. While I respond with a pointer/link where my music can be heard, I have the following questions for you...
  
  - Are you the one who started this thread? If so "You must be felicitated:-))"
  - Did you sing Srik's "Wedding Song"...( I have a good soft corner for the singer and song composition - Srik is aware of it:-))
  
  MS, did you sing Srik's "Kathal Paathai"?
  
  how about links to singers and performers...
  RajaG, Radhika, Sundar?
  
  regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Sun Aug 3 14:03:05 EDT 2003
  
  Aditya, No I am not those "Vijays" :-)Yes, a few other names are missing in that list too.
  
  
• From: Eswar (@ 202.88.242.236) on: Mon Aug 4 00:35:44 EDT 2003
  
  Karthi,
  
  No, I have not formally learnt carnatic/western classical. Although I am pretty interested in learning both. I learnt it by association. I still am not comfortable with chords and other techniques in Western classical. So, you could see the lack of it in my compositions. How did it come about? Well, the girl gave me the tune and the lyrics. I suggested changes. I sat down and heard her singing a 100 times (to exaggerate). Each time I hear it, I get ideas. I put them into notes in FLStudio. When I feel it is not good enough, I scratch it completely and start again. Once I finished the skeleton, I started to do the more difficult part of setting the pan, filter, flanger.... and all odd stuff to make it sound better. I experimented with different live instruments. Finally decided to go with the violin alone. My friend played the violin, an amateur, nevertheless good enough. Recorded various pieces 10 times. Got the best out and used it. In the meantime, asked him for new ideas and recorded it too. Here is what I did with the violin to create an interesting effect.
  
  1) Recorded a tune "x" 5 times in row
  2) Loaded it up as a stereo sample and cut 2 iterations from "x".
  3) Put 1 in left and put the second in right. (This gives 2 different effect on left and right, if you could imagine)
  4) Took the right one and changed the pitch 1 octave up.
  5) Finally did some filtering work on it.
  
  This would sound like 2 people playing the same line in 2 different ways. One in the base octave another in a higher octave.
  
  These are techniques you could use once you have a solid tune in your head. I can never explain, how did I get those tunes. That is pretty impossible, not to boast.
  
  Mapping to notes is pretty "psychic" than technical. You just sharpen your listening skills and try playing the notes in the harmonium (keyboard) without thinking too much on it. It just develops. I would suggest you start with trying to identify sa-pa-sa of an octave. Start with a film song of some kind and try getting the sa-pa-sa out of it. That would improve your shruthi sense, as they call it.
  
  Regards,
  Eswar
  
  
• From: Eswar (@ 202.88.242.236) on: Mon Aug 4 00:58:23 EDT 2003
  
  Da Vinci,
  
  You are lucky! You have a keyboard (I guess with a MIDI interface), and know how to play it. I don't have a keyboard, nor do I have enough knowledge to play nice stuff in it. I could manage some. I wanted to buy a good keyboard before I lost my project and job and had to return to India. But no regrets there.
  
  So, I guess it is not the gadgets, but what you do with it that matters - as Aditya said.
  
  Now what can you do with it? Get a nice microphone, if you don't have one. If you have a pre-amp, works great. I mentioned GoldWave, because I feel comfortable doing my processing in it. It is an excellent software to do your filtering/equalizing work on. Use a multi-tracker to arrange your tracks. You record your instruments, keyboard work, vocals into different tracks. Do your work on them and arrange them in multi-tracking software to get an output. If you are not a technocrat, become one :)
  
  Regards,
  Eswar
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Mon Aug 4 01:43:17 EDT 2003
  
  Eswar, thanks for the informative/interesting writeups on how you did this piece. I am expecting similiar writeups from other musicians here.
  
  
• From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162) on: Mon Aug 4 05:05:14 EDT 2003
  
  Aditya,Srik,Jay
  
  Thanx for the responses.
  
  cheers
  
  
• From: Da Vinci (@ 128.113.109.168) on: Mon Aug 4 08:41:02 EDT 2003
  
  Eswar,
  
  Thanks for the info. Hope to make out some thing good soon from the things I have been learning here.
  
  
• From: Da Vinci (@ 128.113.109.168) on: Mon Aug 4 08:45:46 EDT 2003
  
  Aditya,
  
  Thanks for finding me having taste in my appreciation of music.
  
  "Let the gadgets/software doesn't come in your creative process". I do agree with it. But then, I was only wondering on how I could get hold of certain sound effects which I cant reproduce when I use a PC. It seems to me that a PC has limitations depending on the Sound Cards I use and that I have to work out what is the best I can do with it.
  
  
• From: Srik (@ 64.80.98.165) on: Mon Aug 4 09:16:17 EDT 2003
  
  da vinci,
  computer sound cards are of many types.
  1. Domestic
  features : has a wavtable with general midi sounds. has MPU 401 midi stds. records audio in 16bit. Price : $10-$40
  
  2. Semi
  24bit recording possible, sometimes with good wav table sounds from emu etc, they can play 2 tracks play back.
  eg:Turtle beaches.
  
  
  3.Pro.
  There are no sounds or samples in this, they can record 8 or more (multitrack) audio with 24bit audio at even 96khz. Usuallyt comes with a recording software, however works with other also. They can also play back 8 channels of audio quite easily. Has its own processor to reduce pc load.Quality is remarkable.
  Costs from $500-$3000
  Eg: Delta1010, Protools-digi001 Protools-Digi002,
  :)
  Sound quality depends on hardware you have,
  what ever you have quality of music is the bottom line, however having a good handwriting for a good story is quite important.
  
  
• From: Jay. (@ 66.28.42.140) on: Mon Aug 4 09:53:02 EDT 2003
  
  "Let the gadgets/software doesn't come in your creative process"
  
  - PC recording is the way to go for good sound quality and go pro. It takes a lot of time to learn a particular software be it Logic, Cakewalk(Sonar) or Cubase. Its a trade off you make..your music will be affected while you learn your new tool. But in the end it will aid you and it will give you creative freedom that you can never reach otherwise.
  So what I mean to say is, software/gadgets might come in your way while you learn..but there's always light at the end of the tunnel.
  
  Eswar,
  Good work on the song. Just try and get a better soundcard for your laptop. That'll make a big difference. Hey..sukham anno? good to see another malayalee :)
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.5.128) on: Mon Aug 4 10:11:05 EDT 2003
  
  Jay: "Let the gadgets/software doesn't come in your creative process"...Learn them to their end if necessary. That's my complete statement:-)) perhaps it's the most essential study of presenting the music.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.10.128) on: Mon Aug 4 10:57:50 EDT 2003
  
  Hello friends:
  
  my website is getting up soon...until then,
  http://home.comcast.net/~vijayaditya
  
  I had a ball of fun composing a score "Placate"...This is a funny imagination of asking a wild bull for cultivation:-))
  Download..
  
  http://home.comcast.net/~vijayaditya/Placate_WildBull.mp3
  
  Hope you enjoy it too.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Mon Aug 4 11:18:32 EDT 2003
  
  Aditya:
  
  Yes, I sang kaadhal padhai for srikanth.
  
  BTW, all of you please send your name, location, e-mail and web page. Radhika - thanx for being the first. Once I get 5 or 6 entries, I shall put them up in a page.
  
  
• From: Da Vinci (@ 128.113.109.168) on: Mon Aug 4 11:27:54 EDT 2003
  
  Srikanth and Jay,
  
  Thanks for the info. 'your music will be affected while you learn your new tool' : Now that is where I feel the hit is ! I feel one gets conditioned more to the 'sounds' as one gets into the technical dimensions. Anyway, that is my perception. I am able to spend time on doing any research on learning the 'Home' studio environment only at 'work' till now. I am now going to experiment something real time now at home. Hope I do it better this time.
  
  Aditya,
  
  I am just curious, do you live at Farmington Hills, MI ? Ignore it, if it is personal.
  
  
• From: Srik (@ 64.80.98.165) on: Mon Aug 4 11:44:47 EDT 2003
  
  I need lyric writers in tamil or english , If interested, please email at srikanth@srikanthd.com.
  Thanks.
  
  
  

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