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What is missing in AR RAHMAN's Latest Albums??

Topic started by Theepan (@ 209.197.171.58) on Sun May 4 05:35:24 EDT 2003.
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I am sure as you all know that lately, Rahman's songs have not become what they used to be; mega hits. People have different opinions as to why this is the case... please share your thoughts.

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• From: music lover (@ 24.101.232.76) on: Thu May 15 23:40:17 EDT 2003
  
  A.R.Rehman coming releases
  (1) Unakku 18 Enakku 20 - *ing Tarun,Trisha,Shreya,Jyoti Krishna
  (dir-Jyoti Krishna)
  (2) Boys - *ing
  Sidharth,Sai,Bharat,Manikantan,Nakul,Harini,Vivek,Senthil,Anitha R
  (dir-Shankar)
  (3) New - *ing S.J.Suryah,Simran (dir-S.J.Suryah)
  (4) Yelelo - *ing Parthiban (dir-Parthiban)
  (5) Swamy - *ing Navya Nair (dir-Renjith)
  (6) Kangalal Kaithu Sei - (dir-Bharathiraja)
  (7) 9:30-10:00 - *ing Madhavan,Shaam (dir-Vasanth)
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.106) on: Thu May 15 23:54:23 EDT 2003
  
  The whole india, and even Indian Directors from US...and UK....are looking for one man to compose music for their project....
  
  Deepa Mehta, Shekar Kapoor, ManiRatnam, Shankar, Ashitosh Gworikar, Subash Ghai...and the list continues...
  
  so many successfull people are seeing something valuable in ARR...
  
  
  but cheap anti-ARR gangs...couldn't.....as simple as that...
  
  why Aalavandhaan failed?...coz..it was meant for elite's and some broad minded ppl...unfortunately...the world is being ruled by the other-than-mentioned ppl's
  
  
• From: Mumbai Ramki (@ 203.197.24.195) on: Fri May 16 01:27:10 EDT 2003
  
  AR Rehman's Next releases are to be renamed as AR Rehman is taking huge time for a film ..
  
  1.Unaaku 20 Ennaku 18 - Unnaku 22 Ennaku 20
  
  2.BOYS -MENS
  
  3.NEW -NEWEST
  
  4.9.30 -10.00 -11.30-12.00
  
  5.Kankalal Kaithu Sei -Kankalal Release sei
  
  6.Yelelo-Yelelo-part 2
  
  Just kidding guys ,please do not take it to hurt and start a fight !!!
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 61.8.210.74) on: Fri May 16 02:34:04 EDT 2003
  
  "The whole india, and even Indian Directors from US...and UK....are looking for one man to compose music for their project...."
  
  U dun have to go so far. Just admit to everyone here how often you listen to the same ARR songs and whether do u get tears and goosebumps when u listen to his songs? The truth please......
  
  
• From: magix (@ 219.65.109.40) on: Fri May 16 02:56:17 EDT 2003
  
  MumRamki...
  I'm a huge ARR fan..
  but i must admit, i found ur post hilarious!
  
  
• From: curses (@ 219.65.109.40) on: Fri May 16 02:57:46 EDT 2003
  
  but i'd say
  Boys - Men
  New - (invert it, add an 'h') When
  
  :)
  
  
• From: curses (@ 219.65.109.40) on: Fri May 16 02:59:02 EDT 2003
  
  and yes
  Swamy - Saamiar!
  
  
• From: magix (@ 219.65.109.40) on: Fri May 16 03:02:39 EDT 2003
  
  but then u cant blame it on ARR alone, can u?!
  Those movies havent even started their production work!! All they did was to announce and the inaugaral pooja! (even that was not performed for a few movies!)
  
  
• From: Mumbai Ramki (@ 203.197.24.195) on: Fri May 16 03:30:32 EDT 2003
  
  Except for Yelelo ,i think u can't blame ARR for the delay
  
  
• From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232) on: Fri May 16 04:55:12 EDT 2003
  
  ARR camp maintains, just by music along producers make m,b,t - illions. Why just relase the music and abandon the projects. Selavu micham, and ARR can be saved from this embarassement as all the songs are already ready for all the present, future movies also.
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.106) on: Fri May 16 06:43:07 EDT 2003
  
  dear speaker..
  
  in fact what u r sayign is true ..teh part that "just by music along producers make m,b,t - illions. Why just relase the music and abandon the projects"
  
  just take a look at Vande Mataram, was there any movie? with SRK, or Kamal Hassan in it?...nope..rite
  
  and also...for ur dear info....Uyire was hit even before teh movie released..and for some reason...ppl dun even know who the hero was....got it?....that's what ARR's music can do...
  
  and..in Malaysia....ARR did went beyond cultural borders....his Kathalan songs, we super duper hit, even those Malays, and Chinese noticed thsi song, and they even try to sing it!....now ..that's what ARR's music can do!!!
  
  
• From: curses (@ 219.65.109.11) on: Fri May 16 10:02:23 EDT 2003
  
  and Mr. Speaker..
  The producer of Udhaya went ahead and did just that! :)
  
  
• From: sharad (@ 219.65.149.23) on: Fri May 16 14:02:39 EDT 2003
  
  in boys nothing will be missing just wait.
  
  
• From: Speaker (@ 203.124.0.245) on: Fri May 16 22:30:13 EDT 2003
  
  appo, appadeena, let arr release only pvt album. appadi, prachnai theerththu!
  It seems Uthaya dir seems pretty smart. Name itself a sense of doubt Uthaya??. He is sure that it will be pakka Uthaye!!
  MOfS : Most of the movies will never comeout!
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.130.219) on: Sat May 17 01:35:14 EDT 2003
  
  >>Whatever: It rarely, if ever, maintains the mood of the song or the scene. >what is so special about the following mds that Rahman pales in comparison? >Tell those Northy friends to reconsider their decision which they can if they take a good cold shower.<<
  Talking about showers, i think it was Rajini who needed one in Priya, cycling around singapore with a 'parattai', as if he were in Aminjikarai market ;-))
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.130.219) on: Sat May 17 01:38:08 EDT 2003
  
  Oops, the server crunched my post...reposting...
  
  ***Whatever: It rarely, if ever, maintains the mood of the song or the scene. ***
  
  Absolutely, thats one of the reasons his preludes/interludes dont sound consistent or thematic. There may be some R&D there w.r.t sounds but how effectively it conveys the mood is the question? Lack of theme naturally means the music WONT dwell in the mind for long, it will be swept away by the winds of change that blow in next. Which is universally acknowledged in case of ARR.
  
  na^20..n sense :)
  ****Prabhu: what is so special about the following mds that Rahman pales in comparison? ****
  
  His songs being too digital, they dont quite evoke the same 'feel' as most of these MDs. Just listen to SJ's Awaara or Shri 420 made over 50 years ago, what kind of impact it has and how well it jells with the storyline/ethos. Naushad(with whom MSV worked) was alike ARR in composing around 70-80 or less movies in his career. But his works for Sangharsh, Pakeeza, Mughal-e-azam, Ganga Jamna, Mother India are timeless. Guess i neednt say much about RDB, if you really think ARR stands along RDB, I'll have a tough time controlling my laughter ...(its become a fashion here for southies to blast ALL northies right/left/center without even basic knowledge of Bolly music...enough scorn was poured on Kishore..but what a launch he gave Rajesh Khanna in the late 60s! no way the Hariharans and srinivases can emulate that)
  RDB was forever criticised for lack of grounding in classical(just like ARR but strung together a score of lingering melodies), always in the shadow of his famous dad SDB(just like KR/YSR but made an impact 100 times more than these 2 put together)...it seems he composed the tune for Rajkapur's Ek din bhi jayega, maati ke mol as a teenager....see the kind of output he gave - Teesri Manzil, Aradhana, Jawani Diwani, Hare rama hare krishna, sholay, aandhi...I am leaving many other gems aside, I think a few of these would sweep the likes of Rangeela, Taal, Dil Se off the shelves!
  Has ARR churned out phenomenal musicals like RDB's stunners Yaadon ki baraat, Kum kisise kum nahin for Nasir Husain? No way...add to that he had Rafi, Kishore, Asha, Lata as part of his team...I guess I've said enough and let the obvious truths stand.
  As for ur comment on IR, well, he still wasnt ready to take on Bolly at its own game, no wonder he lost out..Ironically, I noticed HMV's edition of his score for Sadma, guess which movie Sadma was paired with on the cassette? Ahem...ahem...it was Utsav, the Shekar Suman-Rekha steamboiler :) I didnt feel very sorry for IR seeing the atrocious combo :)
  
  ***Tell those Northy friends to reconsider their decision which they can if they take a good cold shower.***
  Talking about showers, i think it was Rajini who needed one in Priya, cycling around singapore with a 'parattai', as if he were in Aminjikarai market ;-))
  
  
• From: Whatever (@ 203.177.64.116) on: Sun May 18 07:24:43 EDT 2003
  
  Here is a scenario:
  
  Mr. Producer and Mr.Director decide on the name for a new movie. Everything else about it is top secret. Mr. Director describes the scenes to ARR, who composes the songs. At this point, the producer and the director decide that they will not go ahead with the shooting of the film - which was not started at all, by the way. And then the they release the song album with all the fanfare. They take a share of the profits and ARR has another hit album. vElaiyum mitcham, selavum mitcham. The profits will add up.
  
  Wait a minute! Is is really necessary to describe the scenes? What relevance does it have to the songs anyway?
  
  
• From: av (@ 132.206.72.95) on: Sun May 18 10:14:58 EDT 2003
  
  Answer to the question asked here (the title of the thread):
  
  NOTHING AT ALL :-)
  
  
• From: av (@ 132.206.72.95) on: Sun May 18 10:25:57 EDT 2003
  
  Guess i neednt say much about RDB, if you really think ARR stands along RDB
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  Prabhu,
  
  Between ARR and RDB, I would choose ARR any day. RDB might be a talented composer for sure, but he has been over-rated to no extent. In fact there are people who go gaga over his atrocious singing. In the late 70s and the 80s and even before that, most of RDBs output was utter junk The other part was extraordinary, but a large part of that was sheer junk. Example - the over-rated movie Sholay. RDB was one composer who preferred quantity over quality. IR too preferred quantity, but he almost NEVER sacrificed on quality.
  
  Neither has ARR sacrificed on quality at all. IMO, never.
  
  Also IMO Kishore Kumar is the most over-rated singer as well! When KK sang that horrible song in Half Ticket in a female and male voice, the HFM world showered so much of cloying praise on KK as if to give the whole world an attack of diabetes mellitus. (IMO Kishore's mimicry of the female voice was atrocious to say the least!)
  
  If Hariharan hasn't been able to make a huge impact on the industry, it is his (rather OUR) misfortune. Hariharan's vocal flexibility is superlative and in the area of classical songs, ghazals and devotional songs, hariharan is several leagues ahead of Kishore Kumar, who in fact never ventured out into the area. I have witnessed live on several occasions Hariharan's ability to sing the most complex phrases as if they were a child's play. And the emotional content of his singing is trememdous. He is in my list far ahead of Kishore).
  
  
• From: kum (@ 202.56.193.91) on: Sun May 18 13:46:59 EDT 2003
  
  I disagree with you saying IR preferred quantity.If its so, by now he should have composed atleast 3000 movies...Even today there lot of movies he is getting, but not ready to do because of repeated-story and sequences for which he has composed lot of music. He is choosy now, prefer to do art movies and movies with good story line.
  
  

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