Raga of song please
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- From: nakkeerar (@ 65.96.248.121)
on: Tue Oct 16 11:10:43 EDT 2001
Kupps:
"Orambo",
"ellaarumae thirudanga dhaan" maadhiri innum konja songs..
"aathu mettula oru paattu kaekkudhu",
"vaangada vaanga en vaNdikku pinnaalae",
"aaduvom paaduvom koNdaaduvom".
a little bit of "adukku malligai idhu"
starting music of "azhagiya kaNNae".
ILaiyaraaja patent folk mettu.
- From: SV (@ 24.190.108.92)
on: Tue Oct 16 11:15:03 EDT 2001
hi all !
what ragam is andhi varum neram from "mudhanai mudichu"?.
- From: Isai Rasigai (@ 38.220.167.219)
on: Tue Oct 16 11:36:14 EDT 2001
MS: PanthuvaraLi = Poorya Dhanashree = Kaamavardhini - So she can say PV and Ilayaraja can say it is set in PD :)
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.56.194.140)
on: Tue Oct 16 12:29:35 EDT 2001
isai rasigai dear...you needn't be pointing out that to MS :-)...guess you are new to this thread...you will soon learn who the PTRTTs are down here:-)....ask we "regulars" if you have any doubts
;-)
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.56.193.231)
on: Tue Oct 16 12:38:51 EDT 2001
SV.."andhi varum neram" from "Mundhanai Mudichu" is Mayamalawagowlai....
- From: Isai Rasigai (@ 38.220.167.219)
on: Tue Oct 16 12:41:09 EDT 2001
MS PTRTT ka Jaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii bolo :)
- From: . (@ 202.56.193.231)
on: Tue Oct 16 12:42:41 EDT 2001
SV...other songs in Mayamalawagowlai are...
Kanava Idhu Unmaya - Aruvadai Naal,Arumb arumba saram thodutha - Chinnathayi,Poonkathave Thaazhthiravai - Nizhalgal,Madhura marikozhundhu - Enga Ooru Patukaran,Masaru Ponne Varuga - Thevar Magan,Manjal Nilavukku - Mudhal Iravu,Alla un aanai padi - Chandralekha,Rama Namam Oru Vedame - Sri Raghavendra,Kuyila Pudichu - Chinna Thambi,Enna paatu paada - Ponnu Ooruku Pudhusu,Uyirae Uyirae Urugadhae - Oruvar Vaazhum Aalayam,Kottu Kali Kottu - Chinnavar,Poova Eduthu Vachu - Amman Koil Kizhakaalae, Machchi Mannaru - Ennuyir Thozhan,Enge Naan Kanbaen - Sadhanai,En Thayaenum Koyilai - Aranmanai Kili,Kaadhal Kavithagal - Gopura Vasalile,Sorgathil Nikka Nikka - Rajasthan,Rasathi Rasathi - Kanna Unai Thedugiren, Oor Ora Pogum Intha - Kaakai Chiraginile,Anthapurathil Oru Maharani - Deepam
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.56.193.231)
on: Tue Oct 16 12:45:17 EDT 2001
:-) ISAI RASIGAI...thats better....
- From: Isai Rasigai (@ 38.220.167.219)
on: Tue Oct 16 13:15:29 EDT 2001
kaNNu pada poguthayya chinna gowndaree - suththi poda veNum ayya MS gowndare
MS - what ragam is that song ??? ;) pleaseee let me know ;)
- From: SV (@ )
on: Tue Oct 16 13:21:25 EDT 2001
thanks IR for a listing songs on MMG.
- From: SV (@ 24.190.108.92)
on: Tue Oct 16 13:21:33 EDT 2001
thanks IR for listing songs on MMG.
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Tue Oct 16 13:31:54 EDT 2001
anbu nadamadum kalai koodamE?? :-(
- From: Sreenivas (@ 131.124.100.125)
on: Tue Oct 16 14:32:25 EDT 2001
nakkeerar,
'en veettu thottathil' - gentleman is a mix up of 'kedaram', shankarabaranam and neelambari.
- From: rag-intrst (@ 64.166.234.226)
on: Tue Oct 16 14:52:44 EDT 2001
what ragam is kanne kalaimaane from muunraam pirai
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.219)
on: Tue Oct 16 15:30:53 EDT 2001
haris - anbu nadamaadum kalaikoodame seems to be a mixture of ragas - or shoud we say MSV has once agian played with all possible notes :) it has traces of revagupthi, malayamaarutham/valaj and a ton of other notes. I do not htink it would fall under "a" ragam
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.204)
on: Tue Oct 16 15:47:23 EDT 2001
ennappa..ellaarum kangaNam kattikkittu irukkengaLA kavukkaradhukku :-)
IR:
puriya dhanshree is different from PanthuvaraaLi in prayogams - This is what I came to know from Bombay Jeyashree.
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.219)
on: Tue Oct 16 15:59:06 EDT 2001
yes MS - but the notes are the same
...and a hindhusthani equivalent of any carnatic raga would differ in prayogams - this would be something like Malkauns/Hindolam; Durga/Sudhdha Saaveri; Aahir Bhairav/Chakravaham pair prayogas... these pairs of ragas have the same notes... and the basic difference lies in the style of rendering... going by that I feel Ninnai charaNadaindhen sounds more Hindusthani! and Ezhu swarangaLukkuL sounds more like PanthuvarALi! what do you think? :-) Bombay Jeyashree ye sollitta perumaL sonna maadhiri thaan :)
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Tue Oct 16 17:17:50 EDT 2001
IR - thanks a lot. you are right. the song starts with misrabowli/revagupthi and travels all over. inspite of all the ragams, there is no 'nerudal' anywhere. great composer MSV.
- From: SV (@ 24.190.108.92)
on: Tue Oct 16 18:20:57 EDT 2001
Can someone tell me the raga of "rathiriyil poothirukkum" from the movie ThangaMagan - one of the fantastic compositions of the Mastero
- From: Sreenivas (@ 131.124.100.125)
on: Tue Oct 16 18:32:47 EDT 2001
SV,
'rathiriyil' - thangamagan is based on Hamsanandi.
- From: Hema (@ 143.183.152.17)
on: Tue Oct 16 20:41:20 EDT 2001
Could anyone let me know a film song in sowrashtram?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Wed Oct 17 01:04:04 EDT 2001
dear rag-intrst....kanne kalaimaane is a very mild "kaapi" raga song.
- From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.2.243)
on: Wed Oct 17 02:32:25 EDT 2001
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- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Wed Oct 17 02:54:03 EDT 2001
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- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Wed Oct 17 06:14:53 EDT 2001
raj...you are "out of synch" with the topic of the thread :-)
- From: nakkeerar (@ 12.148.251.114)
on: Wed Oct 17 13:16:26 EDT 2001
http://www.geocities.com/athens/forum/8424/carnatic/ragass.html
Hema: This site has a list of carnatic/film songs in sowraashTram.
In "IsaikkoRu kovil", "Harinaaraayana" bajanai-song is in sowraashTram.
- From: rag-intrst (@ 64.166.234.226)
on: Wed Oct 17 13:57:44 EDT 2001
Thanks IR-FAn. I thought there might be a light tinge of kiravani in that... May be I am wrong.
thanks anyway
- From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12)
on: Wed Oct 17 17:37:14 EDT 2001
MS or admin,
"why people hate illaiyaraaja-an example "
some one is posting caste related hate-stuff in the above thread can you please remove that. The persons calls him(her)self "Kavitha".
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.25.96)
on: Thu Oct 18 00:22:05 EDT 2001
I was trying to hunt down the raga for "Ghungroo ki tarah" by Kishore kumar, a great song from Cchor Machaaye Shor..the scale happens to be JhinJhoti(seems to be a great one with songs like "tere ankhon ke siva", "mere mehboob" etc.)..
Its a janya of Harikambhoji..I wanted to know if "Amaithiyaana nathiyinile odam" is based on this raga or is it in HK? Can someone clarify?
for more details pl. refer to
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/8424/carnatic/ragasj.html
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Thu Oct 18 01:34:47 EDT 2001
dear rag-intrst...other kapi songs are
Chembaruthi Poovu - Chembaruthi,Hey Paadal Onru - Priya,Thanni Thotti - Sindhu Bhairavi,Chinna Chinna Malar Ondru - Kavalai Padathe Sagodhara,Chinnathayaval Thantha - Thalapathi.
- From: Gayathri (@ 64.26.195.116)
on: Thu Oct 18 01:45:21 EDT 2001
kanne kalaimane is keeravani with accidental notes here and there.
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Thu Oct 18 02:12:00 EDT 2001
Gayathri...did you think twice (oops, hear twice):-)
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.204)
on: Thu Oct 18 03:39:34 EDT 2001
IR fan:
U had asked why it is not kEdhaaram even though it uses the notes of kEdhaaram..hmmm..good qn. I think I can answer it in a slightly convincing way as follows:
U have heard "nilavum malarum paadudhu" - will u brand it as a song in kalyaaNi because it uses m2 at "kaadhalinaal jaadai pEsudhu" ? no. It woudl be something like a song based on mohanam using M2 sparingly for embellishment.
Similar is the case with maalai en vEdhanai. Its "chaayal" seems to be more of ShankaraBaraNam's than kEdhaaram's. Hope this clears a bit.
If u remember, there was s similar arguement about nilavu paattu nilavu paattu - we felt it was more of a sindhubhairavish song though using the notes of thodi. adhu pOl idhai sollalaam.
folks, if u get a chance, please listen to "dard kE rishte na kar daale na muje" By HAriharan from the ghazal album 'hazir'. A fantstic song that alternates between shubapantuvaraaLi and panthuvaraaLi. great composition !
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.154.169)
on: Thu Oct 18 07:01:28 EDT 2001
:-)thank you MS...mind listing a few songs that use the notes of one raaga while giving strong feel of some other raaga?
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