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Creativity of Ilaiyaraja

Topic started by Bhaskar (@ ww-tk02.proxy.aol.com) on Sat Jan 3 00:48:33 EST 1998.
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• From: eden (@ 202.54.71.150) on: Fri Jun 25 08:41:24 EDT 1999
  
  Warning: Don't see the video of this song: really irritating ...cheh! (silku)
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ 129.188.33.221) on: Sat Jun 26 03:56:25 EDT 1999
  
  Eden,
  I wud prefer cutting those moans of SJ ;-)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 202.54.71.157) on: Mon Jun 28 01:09:17 EDT 1999
  
  Me too, Shankar - it was a regular nonsense during that period, starting with SKV
  
  
• From: Raja Fan (@ spider-wg064.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Jun 28 02:39:51 EDT 1999
  
  Friends, I am still continuing to reel from the impact of the melodious songs and backgrounds score of Apoorva Saghotharagal. I was also just watching Illamai Oonjalaadikirathu. The melodies, the variety and the sheer perfection in my opinion out shines best of MSV melodies in Ulagam Suttrum Valibhan or Ninaithile Innikkum. I may even say that MJs Beat it Just Beat it of 1983 grammy winning song must have a 50% take of the Yennadi Meenakshi song. To say that IR brought a melodious foottapping number(that was the craze at all the schools from primary to high school, and colleges) was ways ahead of even the best composers from other parts of the world.
  
  
• From: e.hari (@ 98aea8cc.ipt.aol.com) on: Mon Jun 28 22:33:26 EDT 1999
  
  raja fan,
  I hate to say this, but it seems you change your mind so fast. What is next, hearing a sankar-ganesh song, and you are going to claim, that he is the best. Eagrly awaiting for your next confession :-)))
  
  hari
  
  
• From: SitaRam (@ portal.ameritech.com) on: Thu Jul 1 19:19:24 EDT 1999
  
  http://www.rediff.com/entertai/1999/jan/14ut.htm
  
  comment from Uttam Singh
  
  
• From: KSS (@ spider-tq062.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Jul 1 22:47:27 EDT 1999
  
  IMHO, I think Mahadev was fabulous for the original songs that failed to appear in the movie.
  
  The gem was 1) Rhim Jhim by Suresh Wadkar and Asha Bhosle. This song has exremely melodious and heart-rending flute passages.
  
  2) Dilwale by Asha Bhosle where Raja heavily used the sequencer and Asha Bhosle did a fabulous job
  
  3) Fikar Na Kar Pyaare by Asha Bhosle which was rehashed into Tamil in Guru Shishyan.
  
  The songs were recorded around August 1987 and the movie was released in 1989 after two years.
  
  I was present for the recording of the Dilwale Song and heard it in the Studio. I was waiting for the movie to release for a whole two years.
  
  Uttam Singh was the arranger and AR Rahman played the keybord along with Viji Manuel.
  
  When all the musicians heard the song after the instruments had been recorded. Rahman remarked (his own words) : "It's (Dilwale) come out very well"
  
  The songs may have been a whitewash in terms of record sales. But as far as the original music goes, it was a great film.
  
  What happened was that the final cut of the film was heavily edited(even Dilwale) so much so that the song had the interludes chopped off, To add insult to injury, The gem "Rhim Jhim" never even appeared in the movie and the movie was an absolute Dabba movie.
  
  What appeared in the final cut was some songs that were not even scheduled when the original recordings were done.
  
  I know for sure that Raja was magnificent in the movie's original songs. If he had even an ounce of Rahmans acumen for business, the songs could have been a major milestone for him in Hindi. Unfortunately history proved to be different.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Raja Fan (@ spider-th042.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Jul 2 00:55:21 EDT 1999
  
  KSS, are these songs available on the web? I know the one of the songs was an unreleased tamil movie number; aadai kondu aada by SPS and Deepan Chakravarthi.
  
  Anyway, I was also tracking the movie release, it seems it never even ran a week in Bombay!
  
  
• From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com) on: Fri Jul 2 00:59:53 EDT 1999
  
  "You are famous all over India -- when you compose for Hindi films, the whole of India listens. But when you compose music for such a small state, the audience is smaller. Still, why did you accept this film? "
  
  What an attitude! Who is this Shoba Warrier. The name sounds malayalee, still she so callously makes s uch a statement.
  
  
  
• From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com) on: Fri Jul 2 01:01:01 EDT 1999
  
  KSS: Great observations! Hmm.. Man proposes, God disposes...
  
  
• From: Anand Mahadevan (@ freedum.proxy.lucent.com) on: Fri Jul 2 13:34:15 EDT 1999
  
  KSS,
  Would this ("mahadev") be the movie where IR had to go to the court for a dispute with the producer(Raj.N.Sippy)?I know there was major tiff with copyright and the producer played tantrums with payments.
  
  Anand
  
  
• From: SitaRam (@ portal.ameritech.com) on: Fri Jul 2 14:04:37 EDT 1999
  
  http://www.rajcomp.com/pavan/gulqatra.htm
  
  folks, that above link says Raja has a movie BASERA in 1981? !!!!! Sadma came in 1983.
  
  
  It seems like Lata sang 2 ongs in that movie.
  
  
  
• From: v. balaji (@ webproxy04qfe0.sbi.com) on: Fri Jul 2 14:27:39 EDT 1999
  
  SR:
  
  The MD for 'Basera' is RDBurman. (it must be a typo??)
  
  This is a movie that was a remake of 'Kalangalil aval Vasantham'. I think Rakhee played Sri Vidhya's role.
  
  V. Balaji
  
  
  
• From: SitaRam (@ portal.ameritech.com) on: Thu Jul 22 12:31:21 EDT 1999
  
  could someone tell me all the songs that Lata Mangeshkar sang for IR?
  
  I know Vallaosai in Sathya, what are the others please.
  
  Thanks.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Thu Jul 22 12:45:06 EDT 1999
  
  aararo aararo nee vero naan vero, is another.
  
  
• From: NN (@ morrison.matrox.com) on: Thu Jul 22 13:34:00 EDT 1999
  
  Engirunthu Azhaikum Un geetham....(En Jeevan Paaduthu)
  Ingey Pon Veenai Engey...(Kanukku Mai Ezhuthu)
  
  
• From: SitaRam (@ portal.ameritech.com) on: Thu Jul 22 16:18:15 EDT 1999
  
  Thanks MS and NN. So, totally only 4 songs?
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu Jul 22 17:13:50 EDT 1999
  
  Couple more I can think of but not absolutely sure, Asha could have sung these too:
  -Kanna Undhan Kaadhal Meera Naanthaanayya
  -a song from Poonthoattak Kaavalkaaran (either Ennuyirae Vaa or Paaraamal Paarthanenjam)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 202.54.71.135) on: Thu Jul 22 23:36:51 EDT 1999
  
  Udhaya!
  Ennuyirae vaa is by KSC!
  
  
• From: dev mannemela (@ prxy-01.softimage.com) on: Fri Jul 23 11:02:19 EDT 1999
  
  Lata sang a Telugu song for IR
  'Tella Cheera ku' - a duet with SPB in the movie 'Aakhari Poraatam'.
  
  Udhaya, 'Paaramal Paartha', I think, is also by Chitra.
  
  
  
• From: eden (@ ) on: Tue Apr 10 06:17:32 EDT 2001
  
  Got a mild surprise when I went to park the vaNdi after lunch today.. the song `pEsakkoodAdhu' (adutha vArisu, SPB/PS) was playing from our company secy's vaNdi (a maLayaLi who does not know MY because he spent 1-40 in Kolkata)...well, it was his driver's choice:-)
  What a lovely song, ahead of time...the pallavi is like today's POP (reggae?) but the interludes are exclusive Raja territory (folky WCM) and the saraNam is back to POP (rock?)...so much of enjoyable things in just one song...& still not taking months to compose...rAjA, rAjA thAn!
  
  Felt like taking a kutty interview with the driver on why he likes IR's music, but kadamai azhaikkavE...
  
  
• From: e (@ 210.214.5.243) on: Tue Apr 10 06:19:48 EDT 2001
  
  revive
  
  
• From: correct_way (@ 210.214.5.215) on: Wed Apr 11 08:34:23 EDT 2001
  
  revive:-)
  
  Is a smiley a must to revive?
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 137.237.13.20) on: Fri Jun 6 09:15:41 EDT 2003
  
  Recent examples of exemplary usage of female chorus in the songs 'Undhan Raajiyathil' film Aandaanadimai and 'Kann irendil etri vaikkum' film Avathaaram, the blending of IR's sanskrit sloka with the female chorus singing in an altogether differnt tune, but still maintaining the harmony ,in the song 'Thenralai kandu kollu maane' , film Nilave mugham kaatu, stand testimony to IR's creativity in the 90's era.
  
  
• From: chandrashekar (@ 203.195.208.26) on: Sat Jan 3 01:12:45 EST 2004
  
  Hi Happened to listen to Rimjim Rimjim song by Asha and suresh wadkar from a hindi movie "mahadev"! wow what a melody guys! can some one throw more details and is the CD or Mp3's availiable in any site!~
  
  
  
• From: Hemant (@ 210.214.14.28) on: Sat Sep 25 14:53:22 EDT 2004
  
  dear friends anybody have the song rimjim rimjim from movie Mahadev sung by Asha Bhosale and suresh Wadkar pls mail me
  
  
• From: thumburu (@ 83.89.145.50) on: Sat Nov 13 15:31:11 EST 2004
  
  I wish to bring to your notice an obscure song "paadhi kaLLil mayakkam" - SJ and Kamal from the film Shankarlal. Listen to the way the guitar is played imagatively in a drawl mode to indicate the intoxicated mood , the intersting way in which the tabla and veena are used in the interludes and last but not the least, the tune is also melodious. IMO, the best , freak out song by Kamal till date.
  
  
• From: thumburu (@ 83.89.145.50) on: Sat Nov 13 15:32:14 EST 2004
  
  typo imaginatively :-)
  
  
• From: purv (@ 137.140.142.87) on: Wed Nov 17 23:04:59 EST 2004
  
  And I would like to bring to notice another obscure song, "Kaana Karungkuyil" from the film Paandi Durai. You look at the song title and figure, Oh, here's just another folk song slapdashed together with no novelty whatsoever. But ahh, our Ilayaraja is an unpredictable guy! You gotta hear the song to believe it! Check out the interludes, which are predominantly Sudhasaveri raagam, and then compare it with the singing, predominantly in Bhagesri raagam. Fantastic!!
  
  

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