Topic started by vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on Sat Apr 27 03:25:13 EDT 2002.
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How many times you have gone to the picture hall got thoroughly bored by the flick & suddenly an excellent song comes along ( in most cases horribly picturised ) It left you wondering what is this song doing in a movie like this. Conversely you liked a song very much that you went to see the movie with the same result.
For starters I have given half a dozen.
1.gangai nadhi oram Raman nadanthan ( varaprasadham. Vijay Kumar , jay chitra horror)
2.meen kodi theril manmatha rajan (Karumbu vil. why was this movie made beats me)
3 engum niraindha iyarkayil enna sugamo ( idhu eppadi irukku. dandama irrukku. based on sujatha's Anitha ilam manaivi. it was averitable kotthu kari. *g jai & sridevi)
4.Vaanavillinul varna jaalangal ( Naan naane than *g P Madhavan's son Aamam nee neeye than en velliya vanthe)
5.Unakkenna mele ninrai ( Simla special what was special was this was a tragic comedy. Sv sekar irrunthum ...oru sirippu kood illai)
6.Malargale malargale (Love birds. pyramid natarjan & P Vasukku than velicham indha padathin nokkam enna enru)
I can think of other movies. the criteria is that the movie should suck ( of course mostly the movies would have bombed but there may be exceptions)
I don't want people to come & post simla Special Ariyaluril 20 Naal Pocchu enru. The movie sucked big time ( more so as it was from Mukta movies)
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- From: Vj (@ 202.9.151.6)
on: Sun May 5 10:25:57 EDT 2002
hey.. r u sure its sung by Kamal? can anyone confirm this..? i hv this doubt for quite a long time.
- From: Vj (@ 202.9.151.6)
on: Sun May 5 10:27:13 EDT 2002
that song's pallavi has a feel of the starting music of "Black or White" by Michael Jackson... :-)
- From: yaaro (@ 195.93.48.151)
on: Sun May 5 11:16:09 EDT 2002
ROTFL,I hope you were serious with the above posting and not think I have made the same 'mistake'I made with the great contribution thread.
I have seen these movies and I was in India when these movies were released.so i know what I am typing.Nizhalgal-have you seen the movie?I suggest you do that.If you like the movie after seeing it,well mate,good luck!
Thazhuvadha kaigal was one of the biggest flops in that deepavali release.
Naanum oru thozhilali songs were big hit when they came out-the movie ran into problems with financiers and was released after a v..ery long time-and was in theatre for less than 2 weeks.
sangamam-I could not see the movie even on a borrowed video-that is one of the movies which Ihave the good fortune not to sit through.You liked sanagamam?now,You ARE in a confused state of mind.
VJ,it is one of the 2 songs kamal sang for nother actor.Do you know which is the other one?
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.160)
on: Sun May 5 12:12:04 EDT 2002
Yaaro
Dead serious. A flop is not neccessarily = to a dud.
You think Nizhalgal was a dud movie and Naanum Oru Thozhilaali a good movie?
God bless you. East & West shall never meet.
Yes, to you I will always be confused. To a mad person, a sane person will appear mad.
Don't get mad at me; I am not accusing you of being mad. This is just an analogy. :)
(Appaadaa, nallaa kuzhappiyaachu.) :)
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.160)
on: Sun May 5 12:13:51 EDT 2002
Sorry, should read:
You think Nizhalgal was a dud movie and Naanum Oru Thozhilaali had good songs?
(adding more kuzhappams.) :)
- From: sabesan (@ 172.140.170.165)
on: Sun May 5 12:35:44 EDT 2002
yaaro - yes, "Ponmaanaai Theduthey" is by Kamal, and if iam correct there are more than 2 songs by Kamal for other actors -one song in Ullasam for Ajit.... and there is this movie "Saranam Aiyappa" - this had "Annan vaada, thambi vaada" sung by kamal..... "Gyairu ozhi mazhaiyil" - this song by kamal - did it have kamal as actor as well ?
i would'nt call Nizhalgal a dud movie.... although Nizhalgal ravi's acting would make it close to that :-).....
- From: Isai Rasigan (@ 68.80.193.111)
on: Sun May 5 12:45:02 EDT 2002
Folks,
The most super duper hit song, 'Ilamai enum Poongaatru' from the movie 'Pagalil Oru Iravu'(I guess, is a dud).
Isai Rasigan
- From: Isai Rasigan (@ 68.80.193.111)
on: Sun May 5 12:50:43 EDT 2002
Hi VJ,
As Sabesan said, I am sure that 'Ponmaanai' is sung by Kamal. He sang it with a fantastic voice control. It expresses how a male would sing when he longs and seeks for his love with mild (very mild) romantic pain in his heart.
If you already haven't heared it or rarely heared it, try it. It is one of my all time favourites.
Isai Rasigan
- From: yaaro (@ 195.93.34.174)
on: Sun May 5 14:41:02 EDT 2002
ROTFL,,pleas hit home button and look at the title of the thread-Naanum OT was a dud movie and songs were good.I never said this was a good movie.If I have ,can you please C and P-so i can stand corrected.I dont know what is your problem in deciphering this message.you do not need to be a rocket scientist.
Nizhalgal flopped-just grab a cassette and sit thru the movie.then please tell us what you think about the movie.
You seem to be in a permanent state of confusion-what is the matter?:-)
regarding the 'mistake'about maalaiyil-do not mistakes stem from confusions ?(sometimes)
- From: Isaipriyan (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Sun May 5 17:34:38 EDT 2002
"iLamai enum poongattru..." from pagalil oru iravu should top this list.
"chinna pura onru..." from anbe sangeetha.
"raja magaL roja magaL" from ???(oops I forgot the movie name its a mohan,radika starrer)
will add more...
- From: Isaipriyan (@ 157.95.211.50)
on: Sun May 5 17:37:53 EDT 2002
I got it the movie name is piLLai nila.(its supposed to be a horror movie)
- From: yaaro (@ 195.93.32.177)
on: Sun May 5 19:32:34 EDT 2002
another good songs-dud movie combo is Thiruda thiruda.I remember sitting thru the movie on the first day on a deepavali evening and hoping against hope it will pickup at some stage.
- From: rajaG (@ 64.126.84.100)
on: Sun May 5 23:02:12 EDT 2002
yaaro: How do you categorize a dud movie? Are these movies you don't like, or movies that bombed at the box office - I belive the latter should be the criteria. Similarly, how do you define excellent songs? Songs that you
Thiruda Thiruda and Vikram are examples of movies that bombed largely because our audience was not ready to receive them. IMO Thiruda Thiruda was one of the best masala movies in a long time. I was surprised that TT was not accepted by the audience but Piriyaadha varam vEndum was a hit in 3 languages :-) kodumaippaa!!
- From: rajaG (@ 64.126.84.100)
on: Sun May 5 23:03:12 EDT 2002
- From: rajaG (@ 64.126.84.100)
on: Sun May 5 23:06:55 EDT 2002
yaaro: How do you categorize a dud movie? Are these movies you don't like, or movies that bombed at the box office - I believe the latter should be the criteria. Similarly, how do you define excellent songs? Songs that you like, or songs that were popular/famous. Once again the latter should be the criteria. Please clarify.
Thiruda Thiruda and Vikram are examples of movies that bombed largely because our audience was not ready to receive them. IMO Thiruda Thiruda was one of the best masala movies in a long time. I was surprised that TT bombed and piriyaadha varam vEndum was a super hit in 3 languages. kodumaippaa :-)
- From: (@ 166.44.185.210)
on: Sun May 5 23:08:01 EDT 2002
- From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66)
on: Mon May 6 00:30:01 EDT 2002
i tend to agree with RajaG, Thiruda thiruda with a bit of editing in the second half would have been a benchmark masala movie. evennow it has the best picturised erotic no in" Thee thee". the song is sexy without being obscene.( Did you know that Ram Gopal Verma is the co author of the script alongwith mani rathnam. he (RGV) again made two movies with the same script Kshanam kshanam in telugu & Daud in Hindi( these are a genre of movies common in Hollywood known as Road movies)
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Mon May 6 02:09:55 EDT 2002
Meera (Aishwarya and Vikram starrer -- Directed by PC sriram), could be an another example.
Pudhu rottula dhaan and oh! butterfly are very good songs from this movie, esp the later fits to this thread.
I didn't like a-z of the movie. Many said so, general opinion. Film flopped due to this reason.
- From: yaaro (@ 195.93.32.177)
on: Mon May 6 04:19:29 EDT 2002
If you see I have not put movies like pagal nilavu(I have mentioned it in context of orchestration only)-it was a good movie and all the magazines liked it.commercially it faile.
again mouna raagam-excellent movie-good reviews-ran for ?3 weeks in coimbatore?supposed to be one of the 2 places in TN where sophisticated movies have a good run.
if yo take the case of Nizhalgal,Thiruda Thiruda,Meera(another excellent eg)-got trashed all around by magazines,public .
- From: Vj (@ 203.197.21.28)
on: Mon May 6 05:21:18 EDT 2002
cbe is supposed to be a city in which if a movie runs for 3 weeks maximum, it'll run for 100+ days all over the other places...:-D...
Ps : this is a confession from my friend from CBE
- From: yaaro (@ 195.93.32.182)
on: Mon May 6 05:28:40 EDT 2002
I have not mentioned movies like Iruvar-which I liked .I saw thw film in the first day.You should have listened to the booing and catcalls.If that happens in the first day-that movie is going to be a disaster.
nizhalgal-cursed on many fronts.robert (or Rajasekar)who was the hero,slow script,had the misfortune to be relesed in same day as varumaiyin niram sigappu-which was one of the biggest hits of that year.another eg is nadodi thenral-excellent music,one of the best BGM's ever from IR.but it bombed.
Thiruda had the misfortune of a totally misfit heera(for that role as a village belle),comedy lines falling flat,long story(i think MR was tryin to ape kshana kshanam-telugu-which was the biggest hit in AP that year)too much running around for too long made the viewers tire quickly.
Nadodi thenral,Thiruda T,Meera -all had the same fault .They were all egs of good photography in beautiful locales masquerading as good cinema(this sounds very nice-but I must confess I have borrowed it from Aside magazine's review for Nadodi thenral)
I have reasonable assumptions about TFM dfers level of rasanai.And I'm sure,you wouldnt want to dine on rubbish because it is served with all the glitz with a knife fork and spoon in a five star hotel,because it comes from MR or Bharathiraja or sreeram!
- From: yaaro (@ 195.93.32.182)
on: Mon May 6 05:32:47 EDT 2002
vengayam,Kshna kshanam was releaased before TT.I am 100 pc sure.It is not the other way about.
Vikram-First half was excellent.second half?
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