Topic started by Ramki (@ nas01ppp208.apts.wmich.edu) on Thu Mar 5 22:36:44 EST 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
We had a discussion on songs from Sridhar and Bhimsinghs movies.Why dont we do a similar analyis on
Balachanders films too?To ease the discussion I have given a listing of KBs films(it may not be complete,so
please add to the list if anything is missing)
neerkumizhi(VKumar)
edhirneechal(VK)
bama vijayam(MSV)
irukodugal(VK)
vellivizha(MSV)
kannaa nalamaa(MSV)
pathaam pasili(VK)
naanal(MSV)
navagraham(MSV)
kaavyathalaivi(VK)
punnagai(VK)
naan avanillai(MSV)
major chandrakanth(VK)
edhiroli(no songs in this film)
nootrukku nooru(VK)
poova thalaiya(MSV)
arangetram(VK)
aval oru thodarkadhai(MSV)
sollathan ninaikkiren(MSV)
aboorvaraagangal(MSV)
avargal(MSV)
nizhal nijamaagiradhu(MSV)
apoorvaraagangal(MSV)
moondru mudichu(MSV)
thillu mullu(MSV)
varumaiyin niram sivappu(MSV)
manmadha leelai(MSV)
47 naatkal(MSV)
thapputhaalangal(VijayaBhaskar)
noolveli(MSV)
thanneer thanneer(MSV)
achamillai achamillai(VSN)
kalyana agadhigal(VSN)
agni saatchi(MSV)
enga oor kannagi(MSV)
poi kaal kudirai(MSV)
pattina pravesam(MSV)
punnagai mannan(Ilaiyaraja)
unnaal mudiyum thambi(Raja)
sindhu bhairavi(Raja)
manadhil urudhi vendum(raja)
pudhu pudhu arthangal(Raja)
oru veedu iru vaasal(no songs)
jaadhi malli(Maragathamani)
vaanamae ellai(Maragathamani)
azhagan(Maragathamani)
duet(ARR)
kalki(Deva)
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- From: bs (@ www1.access.bt.com)
on: Fri Mar 13 14:20:12 EST 1998
Sorry, Ramki..I wanted to convey the exploitation of songs by KB in his films..The response was not meant to analyse his films as I haven't seen any of the films which U had listed.. So I cant opine on that..I take back my comments on stories of the films..
If we analyse the situational exploitation of songs in SindhuBhairavi 3 songs come to my mind..
1. Thom thana thom.. Sivakumar is trying to forget Suhasini and the torment of his mind is depicted as tidal waves...
2. Padariyen padippariyen.. Suhasini thru this song completely conquers Sivakumar with her thoughts..
3. Kalaivaniye..Sivakumar request Kalaivani to give him strength to lead a new life after all the happenings in his life..
I think the situational importance & how these songs are turning points in the film is the point to be noted.. Already we all had a fight in another thread about SB...So I wont prepare another war..
Unnal mudiyum thambi:
One of the songs which comes into mind is :
Nanjai undu..punjai undu.. In the song Kamal is inspiring the fellas as well as the people that we have everything then why cant we achieve something from it!!! He comes out as a reformist and breaks out from his father's mould totally!!
A funny song is there in the film!! It goes soemthing like this..:
....Kal Aani..Kalyani.. The song is funny, the lyrics has got somerelation with carnatic music as they are a carnatic music family & even cooking has been picturised very jovially..
IMO in these songs the director utilises the MD to a great effect as well as keeping connection with the storyline..
I agree totally with U that PunnagaiMannan & Puthuputhu arthangal in that they are not keeping to KB brand songs..(again not films!! - IMO).. I think "Oru veedu iru vasal" didnt have any songs!(No idea - thought I saw in some other thread)
BS
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tc04.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Mar 15 01:15:09 EST 1998
Thambi Ramki:
Congrats! unga topic sooper hit aagivittu irukku :-)))) Munbu irundhae yosichom indha maadiri oru topic open seiyyalam endru, idharkku ippo dhaan ungalukku time kidaithatha :-)))))) Good one. Keep it up! Enakku ippo crunch time, ennala adhigama contribute seiyya mudiyaadhu, so neenga enjoy pannunga :-)))))
But my recent favourites of KB are :
1. Kalyaana maalai kondaadum peNNe, en paattai kaelu unmaigal sonnaen
2. Veenilavin thaeril yaeri Kaadhal deivam naeril vandhaalae
Andha pattula oru line varumae, Un paadhangalukku naan seruppaga pirappaen
Adhukku neenga oru murai sonnengalae, appdinna adhukku enna mariyadhai kidaikkumO adhae mariyadhai dhaan namakkum kidaikkum endru indraikkum adha ninaicha sirippa varudhu :-))))))))))
3. Kaeladi Kanmani, paadagam sangadhi
More Later . . . .
- From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp195.apts.wmich.edu)
on: Sun Mar 15 10:06:06 EST 1998
Bhaskar yes neenga aarambippengannu naan wait pannen but neenga busy aayitadhanaalae naanae start pannitten.But responses was not to the expected level(surprising illaiya??:))
ennoda commentai innum jnabagam vachirkkengala:))
Appuram bhaskar check out 'www.tamilcinema.com'
adhile jeans cassette release fn pathir oru chinna article irukku andha article ungalukku pidichadhu onnu irukku.POi paarunga:)))
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-td09.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Mar 15 11:51:54 EST 1998
Ramki:
POi paarkkaraen Ramki, Thanks for letting me know :-))))
- From: MSK (@ dhcp-877019741.qualcomm.com)
on: Mon Mar 16 20:11:11 EST 1998
Bhaskar.,
Maybe this is out of context! But i don't like lyrics like " Un seruppaga iruppen., Un toilet paper'aha iruppen. Absolute crap. Vairamuthu is known for such stuff. In Kaathalan also there were some nasty lines like this in the song Ennavale ..
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tb02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Wed Mar 18 22:45:58 EST 1998
MSK:
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Neengalum VM Algorithm vacchu ennanamO solreengalae :-)))))))))))))))))))))))
Koondhalukku seeppaga iruppaen
Paadangalukku saeruppaga iruppaen
Ramki vaeru ennanamO sonnarae, if I can remember..
Un udhadugalukku lip-stick-aaga iruppaen :-)))))
Ammam adhai dhaan naagalum kindal adithOm. Naanga serious-aa engalukku pidithu irukku endru sollala.
It is crap, we know that but to the tunes of ARR one needs these kind of lyrics to match with the tunes and music :-)))))))
Ellam orE Algorithm mayam dhaan :-)))))))))))))
- From: pal (@ 128.101.145.88)
on: Fri Mar 20 21:52:53 EST 1998
intha thread ukku avaLavaa sambandam illai... but one of my friend pointed out that in none of KB's film a musician/singer has been depicted to be a bhramin which is in contrast to actual statistics. No hard feeling intended and pardon if it hurts anyone.
- From: pal (@ 128.101.145.88)
on: Fri Mar 20 21:54:19 EST 1998
I just wanted to know is it true. If it is true, then what does KB mean by this?
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Mar 20 22:42:11 EST 1998
pal - Wrong! One that comes to mind immediately is Kamal's father, Poornam Viswanathan, who is a sangeetha vidwan in Varumaiyin Niram Sivappu.
- From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp192.apts.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Mar 20 23:50:56 EST 1998
NOV i dont think poornam comes as a Bhramin.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219)
on: Sat Mar 21 19:12:27 EST 1998
the best music in a KB film has come in sindhu bhairavi in my opinion.it is one of the best films to come in the eighties.almost all the songs in the movie can be and has already been listed under
'IR's creativity' thread.but the more important thing to notice is the BGM of the movie.there are several emotional and heart-rending scenes in the movie for which the BGM is really great.this is one movie for which u cannot imagine anyone ,not even MSV scoring music as good as what IR has done.it will go down as one of the greatest works of classical and folk combo music from a genius.an album that should definitely be a part of every TFM lover's collection.
i feel that the quality of music in KB's films has only declined since,and the other films of IR after this had their own share of great songs but as an overall album they ar nowhere near SB.
vijay
- From: RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com)
on: Wed Mar 25 21:02:04 EST 1998
Does anyone know why did KB "ditch" V Kumar and MSV ? Both were producing great songs for him till the end.
- From: y.venkata subramanian (@ 164.100.9.119)
on: Mon Apr 6 01:52:30 EDT 1998
vidukathai-deva include pannavillaiya?
- From: Uthaman Rajagopal (@ dm102.dmdata.com)
on: Sat Apr 11 14:55:44 EDT 1998
I need the following CD's
1.jaadhi malli(Maragathamani)
2.vaanamae ellai(Maragathamani)
3.azhagan(Maragathamani)
Please suggest some shops where I can get these CD's.
Thanks
- From: VANAN (@ )
on: Tue Dec 5 07:56:41 EST 2000
tamil ringing tones
- From: shankar (@ )
on: Sat Nov 6 12:29:35 EST 2004
heard of song "ezhudikiren oru kadhidham" kalki by chitra and anuradha sriram..
if not ..somehow try to do that
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