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WHAT IS THIS ????

Topic started by NagasubramaniaN (@ fw.baan.nl) on Thu Dec 17 03:07:06 EST 1998.
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hi,
this week KUNGUMAM has one ad. which says this ----------

ISAIGNANI ILAYARAJA ISAIYIL PAADA UNGALUKKU ORU VAAYPPU
ONRALLA IRANDALLA 700 KUNGUMAM VAASAKARKALUKKU !
VIVARAM ADUTHTHA ITHAZIL

Ennayyaa ithu ?? onnum puriyalai !
NagasubramaniaN

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• From: Srikanth (@ slip-32-101-16-115.il.us.ibm.net) on: Fri Dec 18 22:28:40 EST 1998
  
  
  Sorry bold tag was not closed.
  
  
• From: Raj (@ pdxss902.pdx.intel.com) on: Fri Dec 18 23:14:36 EST 1998
  
  Srikanth,
  
  With all due respect, I dont understand one thing.
  Are you bashing IR in order to teach a lesson to
  IR fans? Is this your way of telling them not to
  say anything against ARR? So these are not your true feelings but an attempt to change every IR
  fanatic. Bash IR as much as you want but what beats me is that you say whatever that comes to your mind and everytime you say, you are doing
  it because of the IR fanatics. So what about those
  who are moderate posters. I respect ur wisdom but
  not the way you try to blame all IR fans for every
  misdeed in this forum. In this thread, noone even spoke about ARR. U came in, bashed IR, praised ARR and then justify it by saying that IR fans berate ARR in other threads. If this is the way, fans of each MD would get back at each other, I am sure no thread will be worh a visit by anyone including the moderate posters.
  
  
• From: NagasubramaniaN (@ fw.baan.nl) on: Sat Dec 19 04:51:43 EST 1998
  
  god,
  my posting was about IR's offer to 700 new singers & now this page talks about something else ------------- ennappa ithu ???
  NagasubramaniaN
  
  
• From: Gatsby (@ 1cust136.tnt38.nyc3.da.uu.net) on: Sat Dec 19 14:33:31 EST 1998
  
  sariya soneenga poanga.
  
  
• From: Swami (@ 129.107.61.37) on: Sat Dec 19 15:12:35 EST 1998
  
  
  I give me respect to Raja than you do.
  
  Has respect been redefined of late???
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ hope.cs.umass.edu) on: Sat Dec 19 16:17:42 EST 1998
  
  Looks like a typo for more to me.
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ slip-32-101-16-247.il.us.ibm.net) on: Sat Dec 19 16:20:38 EST 1998
  
  Swami: he he...(Scratching my head)
  Thats a typo, I give more respect to Raja than you do. Kadupula type adicha ipidithan.
  Ok guys let me put an end to this operation Raja Bashing -- let us wait and see - My opion is - I just need something new from Raja. Thats it.
  I pray to god that He does not use the same old theoritical scoring methods
  
  Srikanth
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: karthi (@ g179.grainger.uiuc.edu) on: Sat Dec 19 18:52:18 EST 1998
  
  Srikanth,
  
  Writer Sujatha used to say IR music-la engeyaavadhu oru aacharyam irukkum. I think that's missing nowadays. You would be a better person to answer because I never heard him in a long time.
  
  
• From: Mukund (@ sd-ppp-328.abac.net) on: Sun Dec 20 03:38:14 EST 1998
  
  Hi guys,
  
  I used to be discussing in TFM DF so much like six months back and nowadays I personally feel it is in a terrible state. Long timers typically want to stay away from this nonsense called ARR-IR war and get something good out of discussing in this forum .
  
  But finally it comes down to how easily some people get emotional and also how easily some others get provoked, to change the direction of any discussion. (This may very well include me also, but I just want to state things to set a platform) Also, there are so many newcomers who want to go thru the same old emotions that most of us have been going thru some thousand times & have gotten fed up with it.
  
  Please I am not trying to advise even a single person here. I am just voicing my feelings on how things have become !
  
  As far this "discussion" - I did not understand 2 things
  1. Why should anyone to get provoked by Srikanth's statement. We all know him, right ? Is he going to change just so that others will feel better - NO. He does not have to too! BUT my point is , taking all the 100,000 discussions converging to an ARR-IR fight into consideration - if one does not like other's view, isn't silence the best form of defense ?? This way the thread will be dominated by majority views !!
  
  
  Srikanth,
  
  2. Why is it that you always imagine a picture as if you are fighting as one against hundreds of HCIRF ?? . In fact, I have never seen you taking up an issue to the person who told something and directly talking it out with him. The moment something comes up you immediately brand everyone discussing in the thread against you as IR fan. ??!!
  
  Anyways,
  
  Wanting to do something about this,
  Mukund
  
  
• From: Mukund (@ sd-ppp-328.abac.net) on: Sun Dec 20 03:54:06 EST 1998
  
  HI Srinath,
  
  Everyone may be suddenly into this patriotic stuff , I agree with you. But I don't think this is something that is done to counteract VM, in any way. Even so, I feel IR may be trying to show how to do things better without compromising on music.
  
  I mean, this is not like Bhavatharini's doing her VM after ARR did it, right ?? Here the person involved is, IR which makes the difference !
  
  Also, the 1200 singers may be a gimmick yes! But i dont care if he gets a better publicity because of this - I beleive the real stuff will be great ! If UI is going to be improved so be it ! In fact, I remember so many people praising MSV for using 100 or 1000 ??? veenas for enge nimmadhi song even now. Only such things make people talk about any song I guess !
  
  Now is there going to be another fight because I brought MSV into picture :-)) ???
  
  
  But a good precedent that this casette may set is about people willing to make more and more of albums. This is not like some Big SONY coming to produce it. It has been produced because some producer saw that he can see profits in doing so. That way i certainly wish it would be a great success.
  
  Mukund
  
  
• From: Swami (@ 129.107.61.41) on: Sun Dec 20 13:00:04 EST 1998
  
  
  Why should anyone to get provoked by Srikanth's statement.
  
  Mukund,
  Its not the matter of getting provoked, but what we or rather I expect out of people is True, let me repeat TRUE respect to a "genuine" composer .....and nothing more.
  
  >>Swami
  
  
• From: Silent_Observer (@ ip7.miami9.fl.pub-ip.psi.net) on: Sun Dec 20 13:39:48 EST 1998
  
  Guys, guys dont attack Srikanth too much .. then he will go into one of his self imposed exiles ... "DAMN DAMN I hate this dumb forum, so I quit." Then a few people (Geetha's not here these days) will praise this guy and ask him to come back. Then condescending MR.MUSIC will come back to the forum. Gosh, this has happened atleast four times.
  
  BTW, sir what happened to your claim about posting all Raja songs for his next ten films on your website.
  
  
• From: Not_silent_anymore(_Silent_Observer) (@ ip59.miami6.fl.pub-ip.psi.net) on: Sun Dec 20 16:14:52 EST 1998
  
  Boy, boy ... was I foolish. How dare I post something like that. For this dastardly crime, I deserve to be castigated as a HCIRF. And of course, I *DONT* know any music, not have I composed anything to this date. Stupid me!
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ slip-32-101-16-186.il.us.ibm.net) on: Sun Dec 20 19:05:19 EST 1998
  
  Once again we have diverted our attention to indvidual attacks. This time I will not get out from here, I have learnt to withstand you guys. I just recaptured all the words you guys put on ARR when he came out with VM. If this offends you I cant help it. My intention here was to make everyone think b4 any blind bashing. I gave a dose of your own medicine. In this act I might have hurted geniune IR fans, I am sorry for them.
  
  (S.Observer : Next ten films! oh boy counting chicks b4 it hatches - if he does 10 films we shall see something., I still say I can predict Raja's score after hearing few bars, he has to change his theoritical approach, I did not remember saying that I will put it my site, in fact one of you cursed me to put that in my site.
  AND ASKED TO ME get out from here,I am not saying this with ego or head weight or all other words you tried to call me, it is the fact belive it or not, I dont care,
  
  Again you have put about my composing etc, atleast I have tried something original, you are trying to hurt me personally- let us argue with points instead of personal vengance.
  
  I have every right to boast about my :
  website which has considerable number of songs
  original album - it is also on theinternet,
  web music festival, about 30 music concerts for a month.
  
  and I agree with you that it is very stupid of you to not to involve in any other activites other than slient observing, atleast try to
  improve now.
  
  I will be around to stop this HCIRF.
  
  With Love (he he)
  Srikanth
  
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Mon Dec 21 00:15:14 EST 1998
  
  Let's come back to the topic....
  
  Raja has classified the whole album into five periods including Music in Harappa & mohenjadaro culture, mughal and music during the british period.
  It seems Rajeshwar and Raja went to jaipur for composition and raja has composed 13 tunes which rajeshwar says, are out of the world.
  
  This was given in the latest kungumam (interview with rajeshwar).I'll post more on this after giving it a perusal.
  
  Srikanth,
  U can post these compositions too in ur website :-)))))))
  
  Why do u pretent to be not knowing anythng about symphony. Somebody has told me that a symphony doesn't come out in a single composition.rather,the composer keeps improving/developing it(Sorry if I have used any wrong terms ) and that's the reason why mozart took months and years to complete some of his compositions.Probably Raja is doing that.
  Reg ur statement ,whether raja wud be making 10 movies,well, an agmark "dlkjhds..." stuff :-))))
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Mon Dec 21 00:17:23 EST 1998
  
  read pretent as pretend
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ ncr1.ece.sc.edu) on: Mon Dec 21 00:19:19 EST 1998
  
  Dear Srikanth,
  
  I agree with your statement that your site is really good especially the carnatic songs. Well organized!Hats off!
  
  Regards
  
  Murali Sankar
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ mailserver01.sb.com) on: Mon Dec 21 07:59:52 EST 1998
  
  Guys! You are giving too much attention to someone who has this hatred towards IR and has this obsession to express it!
  
  IR does not care about his opinions...IR's music, his talents, his acheivements, his fame and his genius is not affected even a little bit because of someones biased postings in this TFM.
  
  Let us enjoy IR's genius as expressed in Edhho Edho and En Kanavinai Kel Nanba and Velli malai and some of the other outstanding stuff that Raja is producing.
  
  Let those who want to castigate him continue to do so and get thier enjoyment with the Haira Haira type songs.
  
  Lets do a service as Ir fans..just ignore the hatred and bias...and it will go away...
  
  Great posting, Raj! But most probably it will fall on deaf ears.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Mon Dec 21 11:26:37 EST 1998
  
  Swami: Since the whole thread is a html document, you don't have to put in a <html> tag whenver you add a tag to your posting. A close html tag only tells some browsers to ignore further html tags.
  
  

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