Topic started by Raja (@ 24.205.39.51) on Tue Apr 2 23:27:21 EST 2002.
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- From: SV (@ 206.215.14.55)
on: Sat Aug 3 13:56:04 EDT 2002
Couldn't beleive that AR has composed such songs for the Super star. Its a disappointment for all Rajini fans. It is certainly a black spot in the wide Rajini collections. Even Deva could have done something better than AR for Baba.
- From: hbz (@ 210.214.1.246)
on: Sat Aug 3 14:55:12 EDT 2002
hello!
2 all losers who oppose BABA i guess u dont even know the ABCD or 123 of music.simply listening 2 that dappa gudhthu songs of deva or some stupid MD is all wht u guys can think of.specially 2 "jj,areshan,naansense,fliplo" ,neenga onga manasa thottu sollunga "JUST u want 2 defame a md " just dont talk some rubbish.arr rulz, IR or nyother person can never evan come near 2 arr in their dreams to ......the heavenly music produced by ARR....ARR RULZZZ...baba super.....
- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218)
on: Sat Aug 3 15:06:04 EDT 2002
hbz..neenga en romba tension aagareenga..Inge namma karuthukkala express pannlaamilla. Just go back and read, many ARR fans agree that it is not extraordinary. Neenga appadi feel pannina thiruppi thiruppi cassette pottu kettutu santhosama irunga..ithukku ethukku tension aagareenga.
- From: Bala (@ 63.233.91.6)
on: Sat Aug 3 15:22:50 EDT 2002
hey guys cool... Baba songs are quite fine. A.R.Rehman quite understood the situations and performed a wonderful performance.Defenitely these songs will create a big wave among the fans.This is not the thread to compare ARR with IR.Isaignani has given magnanimous performance for all of the Superstar's movies.But that doesn't mean that ARR is poor.He always did justice to Super * movies.Muthu,Padayappa are the best piece of his work which gave an enormous boost on the image of thalaivar.The same way BABA is a milestone on his performance.
- From: S T S (@ 12.234.130.220)
on: Sat Aug 3 16:17:04 EDT 2002
Now, lets see how film fares. Vasanum illai. Paattum Illai. Ennappa ithu. Last time kalladi. Intha thadavai??
Guys, Better listen to Kaathal Saathi/Ivan.
- From: S T S (@ 12.234.130.220)
on: Sat Aug 3 16:17:53 EDT 2002
BABA mp3 available at http://www.tamilterra.com
- From: Super * Fan (@ 12.253.123.37)
on: Sat Aug 3 18:56:14 EDT 2002
I have to like this crap music ? I asked myself when I heard Baba Songs first time..
I'm still listening (have done more than a dozen times already) ..
It's like taking a bitter medicine in the hope that it is for good.. hope after 100 listenings I like the songs..
ARR.. please !!!
- From: sara (@ 128.111.45.86)
on: Sat Aug 3 19:01:48 EDT 2002
Rajini might enjoy a super star status, but that doesn't mean he should provide us with dull stupid songs and eventually another stupid movie. Ellam neram.
- From: JJ (@ 65.69.57.183)
on: Sat Aug 3 19:48:50 EDT 2002
HbZ is another desperate case!!! "Nobody who rulez" will give out this crap!! Why do we have to defame him? Are we his enemies? If IR had scored that music i would have still said it is crap!! So just try to accept the reality.
- From: TruthSucks (@ 65.69.59.112)
on: Sat Aug 3 23:21:47 EDT 2002
It is rare all songs of a Rajini movie are unsahikkable. Atleast one or two would be bearable. This is the first time all songs of a Rajini movie are unbearable. All credit goes to ARR. Keep it up!!!
- From: ;-) (@ 12.75.103.143)
on: Sun Aug 4 00:14:53 EDT 2002
I'm still listening (have done more than a dozen times already) ...It's like taking a bitter medicine in the hope that it is for good.. hope after 100 listenings I may like the songs...
rotfl;-)
- From: C~P (@ 202.9.181.198)
on: Sun Aug 4 00:27:00 EDT 2002
Fliflo,
wat do u feel?? ..... do u feel Baba and padayappa are of the same level as i said??
and....www.babathemovie.com is the website which has been told here so many time in the past....the thing is it's under construction forever! :)
dats y was wondering if the official website for BABA was the one given in that advertisement.....ennaiyaa ithu??.....enna thavira yaarumey antha ad. paarkaliyaa??......i will try to catch it again today,coz BABA is a sponsor for that "Maaberum Kalai Nigazhchi!"
intha ad. yaaravthu paartha sollunga paa!! ..... mm..how do i let ppl know that this is a desperate cry?? :)
neways the websites which i saw were....
www.studiorajni.com OR
www.studiorajini.com
- From: another one ;-)) (@ 12.75.103.143)
on: Sun Aug 4 00:28:17 EDT 2002
Baba Kichutaa
Indha kartuazham mikka padal, it resembles a lot some muthu song in between. He has just changed into a fast beat. Pronunciation and lyrics less said is better.
4) Rajjiyamma Rajjiyamma
If you ever listened to tiruch radio station in 1980 from 12:50 to 1:00 there would be a mellisai. Most it is by T.R.Pappa. If you have listened to that you don't have to listen to this song.
5)Shakthi kodu
Well it is a bournvita advertisment with hifi music. Lots of action packed music. Instruments used randomly. There is no sequence in composing. It resembles an old song. Tamil pronounciation is horrible. Unforgivable tune.
- From: ;-) (@ 12.75.103.143)
on: Sun Aug 4 00:32:59 EDT 2002
Could I suggest to admin to post those comments as well at the front page?
- From: ayyampettaiarivudainambi (@ 203.199.248.216)
on: Sun Aug 4 01:46:14 EDT 2002
cant just arr's songs immediatley.u got to listen to it again and again.baba's songs are absolutely beautiful.if deva had scored music for this it wud have been a piece of monkey crap.arr has scored beautiful and he is back at thr top.
ARR RULZ FOREVER
- From: JJ (@ 65.69.59.112)
on: Sun Aug 4 02:39:59 EDT 2002
Yes ayyampettaiarivduainambi kaliyaperumal!! I will have to listen to it 1000 times before i like it. But i will be in jail by the time i listen to it third time for destruction of property!!
- From: mottai (@ 207.46.137.8)
on: Sun Aug 4 02:47:13 EDT 2002
absolute trash by arr
- From: mottai (@ 131.107.3.79)
on: Sun Aug 4 02:47:56 EDT 2002
absolute trash by arr
- From: kalimuthu.R. (@ 202.9.149.247)
on: Sun Aug 4 02:56:15 EDT 2002
well the songs are surely a disappointment for the hype it created.If AR cannot concentrate on tamil movie songs in the midst of his london schedules he should have backed when offered the oppurtunity by the thalaivar.But still lets hope that the songs become a hit after he film is released.
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.137)
on: Sun Aug 4 03:12:47 EDT 2002
JJ, since u hate ARR so much and love IR so much, why rnt u in IR's new albums thread admiring the beauty of Ivan Devan and another latest movie (whose title I forget now, but was advertised during the sun tv show yesterday)...anyway the point is, ur making a fool of urself and i thought i shud let u know as a sympathetic passer-by. I'm sure the decent IR fans here mus be embarrased by ur behaviour.
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.137)
on: Sun Aug 4 03:15:10 EDT 2002
Since I had to click on old responses too many times to read tis, i thought i'll repost the post by shajahan wit Swapnil's review:
From: shajahan (@ 202.88.231.215) on: Sat Aug 3 01:26:33 EDT 2002
A GREAT BABA REVIEW
REVIEWED BY : Swapnil Mistry
"Baba", according to me, should be liked by both the masses and classes as it has got those ingredients to satisfy each one's tastes.
Baba's music is good and is different from the typical Rajini-style of music. It is youngish, yet fresh and appealing. It is pacy yet melodious. ARR proves himself again that he can churn out good tunes inspite of being under pressure. Actually the slogan "known is a drop...unknown is an ocean" stands absolutely true for ARR. All the songs have some speciality. Lets look at them in detail:
1. Baba theme- Ekamevadwiyam (Srinivas): The first time I heard this piece, I almost felt I'm in a temple or a divine place. The prelude has cellos and violins playing a haunted tune. And then Srini enters with a base-voice, sounding a bit like Hari. The entire piece looks like pundits chanting a mantra for a holy ritual in a temple. The background work is amazing playing Raag Bhairav; an early morning raag (Sa Re~ Ga Ma Pa Dha~ Ni Sa; ~ means komal swara). After Srini ends, there is a female voice sounding like an opera and temple bells ringing. That bell sound really gives u a holy feeling and it vibrates ur soul. Its a beautiful way to start an album. The only complaint is that its too short. Rating: 8.5/ 10.
2. Dippu dippu (Shankar Mahadevan): Seems that ARR is seriously inspired by Bhangra beats..."Lagaan" was the beginning, "Pagdi sambhaal" continued the trend, "Wedding qawwali" proved the fact and now this one. It starts with normal vocals in the upper pitch by Shankar singing "Babaaa..." and then it shifts to a symphony kind of music with marching beats and suddenly unexpectedly u hear Bhangra beats with chorus shouting "Aaho!". The song is amazing with regular ARR percussions. After the cross line, its amazing to listen to the downwards progression of the notes by the chorus. The 1st interlude resembles a lot like those Indi-pop Punjabi songs (Jassi's "Dil le gayi kudi...") played on the organ. The antara is good with able support from the strings department. With the strings, it sounds more melodious. The 2nd interlude has rhythmic patterns on drums and its ARR speciality. The 3rd interlude is more soulful with strings just mesmerising u. After the 3rd charanam, the song changes its scale like in most of ARR's fast songs. This song has its origin from "Daud"s Bhangra by Usha Utthup. Overall the song is a pleasant surprise for all ARR and Rajini fans. Rajini must have never got such type of an entry song. A sure-shot winner! Rating: 8/ 10.
3. Baba kichchu taa (Reena Bhardwaj/ S.P.B): A new talent, again! From where do these singers find their way to ARR, I really wonder. I want to find out how these unknown figures become a subject of attraction once they sing for ARR. But I must confess that ARR knows how to exploit new talents. They suit the song so well that people forget that he/ she is a new singer. Nyways, the song is a sweet melody based on Raag Aabheri (Bhimpalasi). Reena's voice is a mixture of Sadhana+Kavita Paudwal+Sujata Trivedi+Chitra Sivaraman. She's got that innocence in her voice yet an appealing one. She's equally good in lower as well as upper octaves. The song has got a catchy rhythm.S.P.B is at his usual best. S.P.B gets few songs from ARR nowadays, but considering Rajini, he must have givn it to S.P Sir. The first interlude has sweet pan flute-kinda sound joined by Trumpets.The melody is beautiful. Both the charanams belong to Reena and S.P joins only in the cross lines.The charanam has a Cranatic flavour. What a break for Reena! Is she a Tamilian? The 2nd interlude is again rhythm-based with digital sounds and Saxophone joining in later. The song has got good electric guitar support from Rashid Ali and Bass from Keith Peters. Its similar to songs like "Telephone manipol", etc. Rating: 7/10
4. Maya maya (Karthik/ Sujatha): The song starts with Karthik's vocals and rhythms. Then the main lines enter "Maya maya ellam maya, chaya chaya ellam chaya" with such a force and the rhythm joins in. It is in the 6/8 meter. The pallavi is very attractive and is sure to catch up. Its got that international touch and accent. In the 1st interlude there is beautiful flute glides and one can hear soft tablas. Charanams are soft and melodious. Karthik has done a commendable job. The 2nd interlude is beautiful with flutes. Naveen has played the flute extremely well. The entire melody changes. Sujatha enters...delivers her best and leaves her mark. She is so comfortable with all types of songs. The 2nd charanam is very well-rendered. Its sure to become a hit. The percussions are catchy and very peppy. Rating: 8/ 10.
5. Rajiyama (Jayachandran): Not a regular ARR-type.You feel u r listening to some other composer like IR. If u've heard Deen Isai Maalai, u'll immediately identify with this song. This is a typical darga-type sugi song which has got traces of a sufi qawwali. The song has essential percussions like duffs, dholak and ektara. What is special of this song is the wind-instrument 'duduk' played by Naveen. This is what I like about ARR...he has always something new to his audience and one learns a lot from his music. Duduk givs u a totally deserted feel to it as if the singer is singing on the hot sand dunes in a desert. The basic melody is based on Bhairavi. It has devotional shades specially in the charanams.The charanam tune is very similar to tunes of Marathi abhangs. Jayachandran has done a good job though he sounds stretched in the upper notes. He sounds exactly like Yesudas. The song reminds me of "Vidai kodu" from Kannathil. It will surely grow after a few listenings. Its surely not typically ARR style but we must encourage him to adopt to different styles of composing. Afterall, he is a versatile composer. Rating: 7.5/ 10.
6. Sakthi kodu (Karthik): I love this song. Its among the best compositions of ARR off-late. It starts with heavy percussions and then Karthik and chorus vigourously singing "Sakthi kodu". The second time he sings "sakthi kodu", pay attention to the chorus. The melody and chords are different. The entire song is based on Raag Yaman kalyan (Kalyani). The highlight of the song is that it has that vigour and passion in it but is soft and pleading too. Listen to the lines "taayum neeye...uyirum neeye", they are so beautiful.Its a prayer to Goddess Kaali who has shades of anger and hatred for devils but mercy and love for her devotees. This is brought out very well in the song. It is hard-hitting yet soft-spoken. The 1st interlude has guitars and percussions joined by fast string progressions. The chords are wonderful. (Vijay, Rano will definitely like it). After the charanam, the rhythm changes to 5 beats in fast pace with mridangam and cymbals in the background. Its a true devotional song where someone is pleading and asking for something to God and to destroy evil powers. When the rhythm returns to normal and Karthik sings the sign line, there is a beautiful strum of the guitar. This is what amuses me...the song is a devotional song yet there is a use of guitars and strings with modern percussions. Any other composer would have used Indian instruments like tabla, pakhawaj, sitar, veena, but ARR tries to give it a global appeal. The song is excellent though it has got shades of "Nee than en desiya geetam " from PP. Good attempt. Though I dont understand the lyrics, I can figure it out that both Vaalee and Vairamuthu have done a great job.
Rating: 9/ 10.
So, lets hope "Baba" creates new waves for Rajini as well as ARR. Its a humble attempt and ARR should be appreciated and congratulated.
Swapnil
- From: JJ (@ 65.69.59.112)
on: Sun Aug 4 03:44:19 EDT 2002
I am more and more convinced he just composes whatever he thinks. He just adds some music deletes some and gives some crap. I will comment each song
1) Dippu Kumari
I think music scored by college students in hostel on desks and chairs would be better than this music. Very ordinary effort by Shankar Mahadevan. Stupid lyrics. Vain attempt to imitate Bangara music. Weird musical mix. Stay away from this song as far as possible.
2) Baba Kichutaa
Indha kartuazham mikka padal, resembles a lot some muthu song in between. He has just changed into a fast beat. Pronunciation and lyrics less said is better. It resembles a lots of songs from ARR. This song is a testimony to his recycled tunes. Stay away from this song as far as possible
3) Maya Maya
Maya Maya chaya chaya.. ennaiya lyrics.. resemble some other song of ARR. Another bad tamil Another bad singer from ARR troupe. We should execute the lyricist at sight. I don't know if the singer is bad. Or he asks them to sing bad. Forgettable song. Don't even listen to it more than once.
I GUESS IT WON'T BE USEFUL EVEN FOR BEGGARS!!
4) Rajjiyamma Rajjiyamma
If you ever listened to tiruch radio station in 1980 from 12:50 to 1:00 there would be a mellisai. Most it is by T.R.Pappa. If you have listened to that you don't have to listen to this song. T.R.Pappa will sue ARR for plegiarizing!!!
Bottomline it is another crap.
5)Shakthi kodu
Well it is a bournvita advertisment with hifi music. Lots of action packed music. Instruments used randomly. There is no sequence in composing. It resembles an old song. Tamil pronounciation is horrible. Unforgivable tune.
6) Theme Music
Copy from Italian and Chinese music. Only difference it is no where near the class of
them
I guess he needs to examine his head before giving out music like this. First thing i did after i listened to these songs, needless to guess i deleted them. I hate Baba music more than Windows 98!! There was a serial called cho's SARASWATHI SABATHAM on DD1 back in 80s. That Serial used to make fun out of Tamil movies making trend. There was one song in that movie to imitate TR, sung by drunken hero out of "Sogam"
"Ange Poda dei
Inge vada hai"
"Kodaiya pidippen veyilukku
Naandhan poren vayalukku"
That's what i feel when i listened to this BABA SONGS. RAJINI must be furious inspite of all his patience.
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