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When will the Udit Narayan - Vidyasagar torture end?

Topic started by Kunal (@ 195.229.241.169) on Sat Oct 25 02:14:15 EDT 2003.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Vidyasagar seems hell bent on giving at least one song to Udit Narayan in every film of his, and Udit doesn't seem to put in an iota of effort in pronunciation, forget getting into the emotions of the songs. It's not the question of correct accent, but butchering of lyrics!!! Any ideas why VS has this dreadful fascination?

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• From: furstrated soul (@ 148.87.1.171) on: Sun Dec 7 11:00:51 EST 2003
  
  Nothing can be done as long as there are people like pratheepan, curryleaf who rejoice in looking for every reason to suck up to their fav MD. Stupid
  piratheean, did you read the response from C~P ??? It doesn't matter how you pronounce tamil, because only a few unfortunate people have to listen to
  you, but that's not the case when you sing for crores of people.
  Only reason for the modern MDs to bring in people like UN and singers from other
  countries at the expense of local talent is that these ba$tard$ think that their status as MDs go up when a nothie guy or foreigner sings their songs ... in the
  name of variety and change.
  
  Different and "new" singers are needed, but they should have respect for the language and people. Let them learn the language and then come here to sing. Believe me, there enough number of such people
  
  
• From: Piratheepan (@ 68.89.165.91) on: Sun Dec 7 12:57:27 EST 2003
  
  whend c~p say that?lol cuz i dont see it in n e of his comments.
  
  hahaha no matter what u say im still in favor of new voices i could careless if they pronounce tamil right or wrong....who says they sing for ppl like u?they sings for the crores of ppl like me=P the only time pronunciation matters is when the lyrics of the song matter....have u noticed he-udit- doesnt sing melody numbers he sings foot tapping numbers where ppl dont care abt the lyrics.
  
  and frustrated soul how we suckin up we didnt even name a damn MD?its ppl like u who cause all the troubles in life nit pickin and causin stupid fights between ppl. u kno like jathi, matham etc etc..
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.1.201.46) on: Wed Dec 10 09:20:51 EST 2003
  
  ada paavingala Tamizh kolaiya support panna ippadi oru aalu ... cha cha ... paruva illai!
  
  actually wat are u ppl talking abt? .. wat did say? .. wat did i not? ... ezhuthinavananey kuzhappiteenga!!
  
  "i was bein a lil serious.i just shoulda been clearer, what i meant is can the ppl bashin speak and pronounce thamil perfectly?of course there is room for criticism....u said michael jordan u do realize hes a bball player......?but the diff between healthy criticism and just bashing is posing solutions such as sum have said get a tutor or what not.that make more sence c~p?"
  The people bashing him i guess would pronounce tamil properly coz they wudnt know the right prononciations or else! :-)
  
  ofcourse i know that MichaelJordan is a Baseball player!! :p
  
  and getting a tutor or watv is upto Udit..we cant do all such things man! ... he shud reliase the irritation he brings in people with his pronounciation ... i dont see an improvement so far, not even 1 bit!
  
  
• From: sim (@ 213.185.126.18) on: Thu Dec 11 08:38:13 EST 2003
  
  Only when tfm will return to simple truthfulness.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Fri Dec 12 06:40:56 EST 2003
  
  'frustrated soul' and 'C~P' - I respect your views. People should appreciate bad Tamizh or for that matter bad pronounciation of any language. Well PS and Chithra did full justice to their songs though their language had Telugu and Mal accents.
  
  Piratheepan, pls dont encourage such trend! Each language has its own beauty (I am not talking just in favour of Tamizh) - so lets up hold that beauty by appreciating good pronounciation and criticising bad prononouciations.
  
  
• From: rajeshrs_tvm (@ 202.88.240.238) on: Fri Dec 12 08:11:35 EST 2003
  
  Pls hear to..
  :Endhan uyir thozhiyae:
  Winner..
  
  anbae=anubae
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 202.9.180.166) on: Fri Dec 12 09:24:36 EST 2003
  
  Ravi,
  u meant ppl shudnt appreciate bad tamizh rite? .. muthala nakkal adikkareengannu nenachaen! .. hehe
  
  and yeah, u have put it in the most direct way possible. Piratheepan wud understand now i guess, i mean instead if just being glad to listen to things that sound peppy
  
  
• From: Sriram (@ 136.1.1.154) on: Mon Dec 15 11:37:09 EST 2003
  
  I think Udit Narayan is one of best singers around. He sings pretty well in Hindi - I guess he is used in tamil for his "konju" tamil pronunsation. (Like people liked Saroja Devi's konju Tamil, SPB's "Konju" Hindi for Salman Khan)
  
  I also like his tamil pronunsation - It is different. (better than some of TV VJs - born & brought up in Singara Chennai)
  
  
• From: Rasika (@ 194.170.246.22) on: Mon Dec 15 22:48:36 EST 2003
  
  Sriram,
  Please do not compare SPB's accented Hindi with Udit Narayan's Tamil, which most of the time doesn't sound like Tamil at all. It is not an accent problem. He tortures the language to no end and one can't figure out 75% of the lyrics. That's definitely NOT what I would call "Konju" Tamil.
  
  I guess it is because of 'generous' people like you that the likes of Vidyasagar continue to go for the kill.
  
  
• From: Comments (@ 68.91.108.147) on: Mon Dec 15 23:21:21 EST 2003
  
  As Sriram points out Udit Narayan sings very well in Hindi. However his pronunciation in Tamizh is atrocious. Rather than blame him, blame the MDs. It looks as if they write something for him in English/Hindi and Udit Narayan sings/shouts whatever he wants. The MDs probably don't correct him at all.
  
  Lata Mageshkar and Asha Bhonsle have sung a few Tamizh songs. Though one can discern their non-Tamizh accent no one would say that they "killed" Tamizh.
  
  
• From: x (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Tue Dec 16 03:06:39 EST 2003
  
  As long as Tamil poeple encourage Udit he will be torture you not me I don't listen to his songs in all South Indian Languages at all.
  Next MD's should not ask him to sing.
  And Directors and Producers should not recoment to sing ok.
  Then tings will be good.... including ARR..
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Tue Dec 16 03:19:46 EST 2003
  
  C~P, thanks for pinpoiting. My earlier post should have been : "People should *NOT* appreciate bad Tamizh...". Sorry for missing out the 'NOT'.
  
  Well, come on folks - try to get the point. No one is opposing Udit. Infact he continues to be one of my most favorite singers but not when he sings in Tamizh because to me the correctness of language *DOES* matter.
  
  Comments, u were very true in saying "blame the MDs". I fail to understand why MDs have to invite singers all the way from north and bearing all their travel and stay expenses and have to put up with their lack of Tamizh knowledge. Dont u feel all this is a big irony!! People being asked to sing in language on which they dont know even a word??!! Well I agree people sing Carnatic music but there the emphasis is more on swaram and thalam rather than lyrics and baavam. So guys people stop encourage such lousy trend!!
  
  
• From: yaaro (@ 61.247.249.233) on: Tue Dec 16 06:10:45 EST 2003
  
  VS...Please stop suckingg Udit's DIKK
  
  
• From: Sriram (@ 136.1.1.154) on: Wed Dec 17 13:03:52 EST 2003
  
  Yes, I agree Udit's is not actually "Konju" tamil, but something similar.
  
  If I am not wrong, his first hit was "Kadhalikkum Pennin Kailgal" from Kadhalan. In that song, there is a word "Kaiyezhuthile" proununced like "Kaiyozhuthile" by UN. It was delibrate mistake, because there was a word "Pizhaigal" in that line (to emphasize "pizhaigal"). It set the trend - people liked it, MDs exploited it.
  
  I do think UN is capable to sing with correct pronunciation, but made to sing with out (to maintain the trend).
  
  By the way, any one noticed he sings in a different voice in Tamil (pitch/style??) - His tone is much different when you hear him in Hindi.
  
  Udit Narayan is a one of the best singers around. Unfortunately he is restricted by this trend in Tamil.
  
  
  
• From: ..,, (@ 212.77.192.61) on: Thu Dec 18 07:13:46 EST 2003
  
  Udit is an average singer with a great voice.His allu allu.in my opinion was his best song.If he sings one allu a year then we can tolerate him.Now he is unbearable and vidyasagar and like minded mds should be blamed.Or maybe if any hindi md makes paravai muniyamma sing a hindi song then we can do with a few more udit songs
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.16) on: Thu Dec 18 11:32:12 EST 2003
  
  ..,,
  
  Udit did not have anything to spoil in Allu Allu! ;-) .... athu already galeej madras baashai ... atha evan eppadi pronounce pannina enna?!! :-)
  
  
• From: peace,love and harmony (@ 62.243.89.202) on: Sun Dec 21 18:00:38 EST 2003
  
  Who says you have to listen to the songs you can just turn the music off if you cant stand the songs.
  
  If some one should be blamed its AR Rahman he started to bring singers who cant pronounce tamil words.
  
  
• From: Sangeetha (@ 216.239.66.169) on: Tue Dec 23 23:44:42 EST 2003
  
  I think Udit .... has a great voice, but he has the hindi accent, but still he is getting a lot of chances to sing tamil songs bcoz of his poplarity in hindi... I think he should continu his career in hindi not in tamil! they should give more chances to singers like KARTHIK!! :)
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 12.20.58.68) on: Wed Dec 24 01:03:14 EST 2003
  
  Karthik thaan one of the most prolific singers in the recent years in TFM. vera yaarukaavathu chance kodukanum nnu sollanumnaa, matha singers yevlo irukaanga. avnagala yelaam vittutu KARTHIK kku poi more chances kodukanum nnu solriye . Dravid innnum neraya run adikaknum nnu solra maathiri irukku athu.
  
  Neenga Karthik's htheevira rasigai nnu Karthik fans thread paathale theriyuthu. Ungala maathiri fans paathale pothum, Karthik would start smiling a lot more
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 203.195.184.205) on: Wed Dec 24 01:11:19 EST 2003
  
  pothum pothum ... ithukku maela avar siricha, vaai kaathula idikkum!! :-)
  
  

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