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Songs of Uma Ramanan

Topic started by Venkatesh (@ ww2.ssbcd.co.om) on Sat Apr 15 11:59:05 EDT 2000.
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Can we list and discuss the songs of UR here? I think she has given innumerable hit songs under IR's baton.

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• From: pAtti (@ 63.64.130.9) on: Wed Feb 14 17:36:25 EST 2001
  
  Some more songs of UR to add to the list:
  
  Thendral ennai muthamitadhu - Oru odai nadhiyagirathu
  Aalana poo malli thaan malli thaan - Kanni Raasi
  Indira logathu sundari rathiri kanavinil - Uyirulla varai Usha
  Kasturi maane kalyana thene - Pudhumai penn
  Kaadhal mayakam azhagiya kangal - "
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Wed Feb 14 18:09:03 EST 2001
  
  Indira logathu sundari rathiri kanavinil - Uyirulla varai Usha
  
  I think this song is by B.S. Sasireka
  
  
• From: ck (@ 24.64.158.52) on: Wed Feb 14 22:31:48 EST 2001
  
  pAtti ithu ungaLukku thEvaiyaa :)))
  BSS kuralukkum, UR kuralukkum vithiyaasam theriyaatha? :)
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.129.72) on: Thu Feb 15 01:26:37 EST 2001
  
  Ramki.,
  
  Raaja.com page lists two songs from Walter VeTRivel., 1. PoongaaTRe., 2. Mannavaa.,
  
  PoongaaTRe is by Mano, Sunantha and Uma RamaNan. But Mannavaa is by Sunantha only, Thats what I mentioned in my earlier posting
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: pAtti (@ 63.64.130.9) on: Fri Feb 16 18:33:07 EST 2001
  
  peraandi,
  5-il onnu thaane thappu....atleast 4 correct-a kandupudichirukenE :-)
  
  
• From: Sugrutha (@ 65.11.240.45) on: Fri Feb 16 19:59:02 EST 2001
  
  Did anyone mention 'Nee pathi naan paathi kanne' from 'Keladi Kanmani. That is a lovely song.
  
  If you are discussing 'ennuyir neethane, unnuyir naan thaane', it is by Jensi and KJY from 'Priya'.
  
  I think Uma Ramanan has the best voice. She does not go shrill like PS or SJ or KSC. But her versatality has been limited because she does not enough 'azhuththam' (the punch)in her singing. If she had corrected this, she would have soared. Also she is slightly inhibited, so only songs that need subtlity suits her. This could also have been easily overcome.
  
  
• From: Arun (@ ) on: Thu Oct 18 07:19:01 EDT 2001
  
  some good songs not discussed
  
  "Ponmaane kobam Yeno"- Oru kaidhiyin Diary
  "Yaar thoorigai thandha oviyam"- Paaru paaru patnam paaru
  
  
• From: raj (@ 198.151.230.253) on: Thu Oct 18 07:52:01 EDT 2001
  
  ALSO AAGAYAVENNILAVE FROM ARANGETRAVELAI IS A NICE NUMBER WITH KJY
  
  
• From: damn_sure (@ 210.214.4.92) on: Fri Oct 19 01:44:50 EDT 2001
  
  None of the following songs are by UR:
  *kAdhal mayakkam (pudhumaippeN) is by JC/Sunanda. I think that was the first song for Sunanda.
  *ennuyir nee thAnE (Priya) is by KJY/Jensi
  *thendRal ennai muthamittadhu (oru Odai nadhiyAkiRathu) is by KC/BSS
  *malarE pEsu, thuLLi ezhundhadhu, oru jeevan (Geetanjali) all are by KSC
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.129.72) on: Fri Oct 19 05:33:57 EDT 2001
  
  damn sure,
  
  KadhaL Mayakkam is by Sunantha for sure, But tell me is it her first song ? IR introduced her ?
  
  I think 'ThendRal ennai muththamittathu' is by Uma.,
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.4.253) on: Fri Oct 19 06:10:19 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS, I'm not sure about the `first' part of it:-). But I have no doubts about thendRal ennai. At least once in two weeks Cbe radio plays this song (even nowadays):-)))I think it's based on some rAgA..
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Fri Oct 19 06:32:39 EDT 2001
  
  Thenral ennai muthamitathu was by Uma. Her first song in TFM is "Amuthe Thamize Azakiya Moziye" with P.Suseela under IR.
  
  Indiralogathu sundari was by BS.Sasirekha.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.129.72) on: Fri Oct 19 07:24:42 EDT 2001
  
  eden,
  
  I don't understand What you say About 'thendRal ennai' ? Is it by Uma or not ? ? :-)
  
  GR, from which movie this 'Amuthe thamizhe' song from ? KovilpuRa ?
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.4.22) on: Fri Oct 19 08:11:31 EDT 2001
  
  thendRal ennai is by KC & BSS, absolutely sure.
  
  UR's first song is poongathavE, thAzh thiRavAi.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 161.150.2.250) on: Fri Oct 19 08:41:45 EDT 2001
  
  URs first song is kaadhal kaadhal kaadhal(with AVRamanan). poongathave was her first hit song.
  
  GR thendral ennai muthamittadhu is by BSS
  
  
  
• From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Fri Oct 19 11:30:03 EDT 2001
  
  the song "kanmani nee vara..." from Thendrale ennai thodu is sung by KJY and UR.Its a evergreen melody and one of my all time favourite.
  
  
• From: mellisai (@ 205.228.12.45) on: Fri Oct 19 16:10:56 EDT 2001
  
  Aanandharagam ketkkum - Panneer pushpangal
  is a very nice song
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Tue Oct 23 09:26:14 EDT 2001
  
  oh! I forgot about UR's first song that time. It was not under IR. It was for the movie called "Krishna Leela" directed by APNagarajan *ing Sivakumar, Jayalalitha and Sreevidya. Song is "Mohanak Kannan Murali Gaanam". I don't remember the MD. She told that in Sapathaswarangkal program.
  
  Also "Kottaiya Vittu Vetaikup Pohum" was by Uma Ramanan. I saw in a CD last weekend.
  
  
• From: suresh kumar (@ 210.186.126.66) on: Wed Oct 24 02:03:15 EDT 2001
  
  Why isn't she and Sunantha getting any chance to sing under todays music directors?
  
  
• From: sivaselvam (@ 12.108.161.34) on: Tue Oct 30 08:40:15 EST 2001
  
  One of her best is
  
  Manjal Veyyail Malayitta poove...
  Un Vannan Un Ennam.... from the movie "Nandu"
  
  
• From: Madhan (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Tue Oct 30 10:42:03 EST 2001
  
  One of the Best of IR and UR is
  
  MEHAM KARUKKAIYILAE PILLAI THEHAM KULIRUTHADI
  
  Movie : VAIDHEHI KATHIRUNTHAL
  
  
• From: Ari UK (@ 155.198.17.121) on: Fri Nov 2 08:40:14 EST 2001
  
  Have you guys forgotten the song ' Nil Nil Nil, pathil sol sol sol enai vaattathae' with IR.
  Can't rmember the film, Ragu and SPB played the lead roles.
  Others:
  Vaasagi vaasagi - Arasiyal
  Aarum athu azham illa with IR
  Oh unnalae naan peNN aanene with Mano
  poothirukkum vanamae with Hariharan- Puthayal
  
  
• From: naaz ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Fri Nov 2 10:50:24 EST 2001
  
  Hi, My favourite Uma Ramanan song is from the film Ennakkaga Kaathiru: "Thaagam Edukkura Nera Vaasal Varuguthu Megam" and also:
  "Palliaraikkul Malligaiyai Alli Irraikka" from the film Balanagamma.
  
  
• From: Ash (@ 12.5.196.254) on: Fri Nov 2 11:59:30 EST 2001
  
  The greatest number is "POONGATHAVAI THAZH THIRAVAI" with Deepan chackravathy from "NIZHALGAL". Which I would rate as the number one of Uma's hits
  
  
• From: ash (@ 12.5.196.254) on: Fri Nov 2 12:02:59 EST 2001
  
  UR's pronounciation of tamil is excellent. She is very much better than SJ or Chithra. Maybe second to PS
  
  
• From: avr (@ 203.197.80.198) on: Fri Nov 2 12:17:59 EST 2001
  
  what a beautiful voice. But why so less used?
  Is she into pure classical nowadays?
  
  
• From: naaz ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Fri Nov 2 13:08:42 EST 2001
  
  AVR,
  
  The problem with Tamil MD's is that they are the last ones to recognise/appreciate/celebrate their own "Tamil" homegrown singers - the marginalisation of Uma Ramanan and Vani Jairam (both tamil brahmins) is the case in point.
  Tamil MDs of recent times are happy to have Kavitha Krishnamurthy, Sadhna Sargam, Mithali Singh, Asha Bhonsle mangle munch and murder the Tamil language - all in the name of having "Bombay" Singers sing for their Tamil scores....!!!
  One wonders why tamil MDs have such a "mogham" for non-tamil singers - especially those who have no expertise in speaking/pronouncing their language!
  A true case of inferiority complex, I guess.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 203.197.80.20) on: Fri Nov 2 23:47:43 EST 2001
  
  Naaz:
  
  Well with all my respect for VJ/SPB/KJY - I feel they bad Hindi pron. I myself have learned Hindi for 12 years. Many of my Hindi speaking relatives who have taught Hindi/Marathi at Unis say the same about VJs Hindi/Marathi pronounciation.
  
  This does not reduce my respect for VJ who is the only singer having both Hindustani + Carnatic training. But I cannot be a blind fan.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 203.197.80.20) on: Fri Nov 2 23:53:43 EST 2001
  
  Anyway coming back to the topic I cannot say how much I have loved Uma Ramanan's voice in "Poonkadhave". What a tune by Ilayaraja!! And her solo in "Balanagamma" was exquisite for sure.
  
  Probably even IR was guilty of not using her enough????
  
  
  
• From: naaz ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sat Nov 3 10:55:04 EST 2001
  
  I find it amazing that VJ's Hindi pronunciation is getting a bad rap here....To say that someone who has trained in both Hindustani and Carnatic Music cannot pronounce Hindi is quite simply a status of bias. Jitendra Abisheki (with whom I trained for a while ) had this to say about VJ: "She is perhaps the only singer from her generation who is capable of bringing "shudh" back into Hindi which film music has completely eroded." This is from somebody who should know a thing or two about Hindi diction/pronunciation? Or would you say he has no clue about Hindi, as well?
  
  I guess, Pt. Ravi Shankar, Kumara Gandharva, Vasant Desai, Bhimsen Joshi, Jaidev, Naushad, OP Nayyar...must be wrong...or maybe they just need a good Hindi-ear specialist to give them a good waxing?
  
  I don't believe for a moment that VJ's Hindi can be compared to SPB's or KJY's. Dauno Me Zameen Aasmaan Ka Farak hai!!
  
  Sorry AVR, I have to disagree. And most Hindi scholars would too.
  
  Naaz
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ 164.100.11.114) on: Mon Nov 5 00:08:15 EST 2001
  
  is oorandagum saamathilae from pudupatti ponnuthaayee added to the list??
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Nov 6 00:26:59 EST 2001
  
  naaz:
  
  Why even Ilayaraja,AR Rahman and so many others have often worked with Asha,Sadhana,Kavita etc. I am sure IR must have publicly praised their Tamil diction. Does this mean we have to accept it at face value??
  
  Why Susarala Dakshinamurthy and Ghanatasala invited Lataji to sing in Telugu and Sinhalese? And I am sure they must have praised her Telugu diction. Should we say that therefeore her Tel. diction is perfect???
  
  And thats not all - Naushad has praised the Hindi diction of SPB too. So what????????? Even Jaidev,Khayyam,Hridaynath Mangeshkar,RDB,LP,KA have worked with KJY. So his Hindi accent is perfect???????
  
  And so many people who know the SA RE GA .. of music (like Pandit Jasraj,Bhupen hazarika..) as u say still say "Lataji sounds at 70 as if she were 17" - which is obviously not true. Neither should we accept these statements, nor should we stop liking Lataji just because hse has had this one limitation.
  
  Its the same with VJ. We have to disagree. And there would be quite a few "scholars" who might disagree with u too!!
  
  I feel often celebrities get into the habit of unnecessarily exaggerating certain things or over-praising the same. Its just their habit, thats almost inseparable from them.
  
  NOM whatsoever.
  
  
• From: naaz ahmed (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Nov 6 02:42:34 EST 2001
  
  Thanks for your response AVR. Your response was quite illuminating. I appreciate your thoughts.
  Wish you many hours of happy listening.
  
  Naaz
  
  

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