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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Fri Apr 18 01:26:35 EDT 2003
  
  Song of the Day: vizhiyilE malarndhadhu from bhuvana oru kELvikkuri.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/vizhiyile.rm
  
  - MD: IR. Sung by SPB. I came to know only now, writing this, that the MD for this movie is IR, I thought this song was by MSV!
  
  - The lyricist is Panchu Arunachalam. The lyrics is wonderful, especially the starting of the charanam:
  kaiyaLavu pazhuththa maadhuLai - paalil
  nei aLavu padarndha punnagai
  
  Someone once remarked that this is the perfect description of a Mona Lisa smile !!
  I must sheepishly admit that I had assumed that the lyrics was penned by Kannadasan, and came to know recently that it was by Panchu Arunachalam.
  
  - The full lyrics is in our TFSA archive: http://newtfmpage.com/tfsa/english/songs/bhuvoruk.htm#VizhiyilaeMalarndhadhu
  
  - Saravanan has written on this film in the thread on Vani Jayaram:
  
  Maharishi’s story, recreated for the silver-screen by SP Muthuraman. Screenplay, Dialogues and Lyrics by Panju Arunachalam.
  
  A film that was a decisive turning point in the career of Rajini. While he had in the last two years, consolidated his position as a trend-setting villain of style, it was in this film that he showed that he was an actor of substance as well. Sivakumar was supposedly the hero, though his character was entirely negative. Rajini, in slot of the second hero, effortlessly stole the show from Sivakumar. Sivakumar, himself a good actor, was supposed to have vowed to be more careful while selecting his roles in the future!
  
  Sivakumar, a charming, glib-tongued womaniser, manages to woo the unsuspecting Sumitra, and having had his fling, looks for greener pastures. Rajini, on the other hand, is sincere in his love, but his beloved comes to a gory end. Broken-hearted, he takes to drink. He pities the wretched unmarried mother, Sumitra, and offers her shelter in his humble abode. Sivakumar marries the rich Jaya, but the couple is childless. The story goes on thus, the latter half giving ample scope to showcase the emoting prowess of both Rajini and Sumitra. Rajini brought hitherto unseen shades in the characterisation of the drunkard with a heart of gold.
  Black and White padam thaan, no special effects etc, low-budget settings- yet, for me, this will always remain my favourite Rajini film!
  Not ‘?’, but ‘!’
  
  And IR raised the film to great heights by his simply awesome score. Though the film had only three songs, each song is a glittering gem. Can anyone forget the mind-blowing SPB solo ‘Vizhiyile malarndhadhu’ or the lyrical SPB-SJ duet ‘Raja enbaar mandhiri enbaar’?
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.130.219) on: Fri Apr 18 03:08:55 EDT 2003
  
  One of my choice for best rendered songs of the 70s. SPB , then on the threshold of carving his own niche in tfm, sings it with such youthful exhuberance. One of my telugu friends told me SPB really hit it off in Telugu starting from late 70s. A slightly youthful tinge does exist in his 70 numbers compared to the latter ones.
  Orchestration is really sunny and vibrant.
  
  
• From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.9) on: Fri Apr 18 04:11:33 EDT 2003
  
  I think this scene was featuring Rajini singing with his wet-dressed & blouseless :-)) sweet-heart Meera (Pattina Pravesam fame, who later acted in Sindhu bhairavi also).
  
  In "kaiyaLavu pazhuththa maadhuLai" line, Rajini lifts Meera who is completely drenched. Rajini, may not be a good weight lifter, showed good strain in his face struggling with his lip-movements :-))
  
  I always gets the other lovely song sung by SPB "thoduvadhenna thendralO malaraLo" (from Sabadham for Ravichadran), whenever I hear this "Vizhiyile".
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20) on: Fri Apr 18 11:59:00 EDT 2003
  
  'poon thenrale' is also pleasant breezy duet by VJ and Jeyachandran
  Subbu, who is the MD of 'Thoduvadhenna'? MSV?(A very interesting song). Why don't we get films like Bhuvana centered around a female base ,these days? Even KB's recent female characters (esp in Paarthaale paravasam) have become wimps. I think the 70's had lots of such films(Aval oru thodarkathai, Avalukendru oru manam, Aboorva raagam, Avargal,Bhuvana, Mayangugiraal oru maadhu, Sila nerangalil sila manidhargal,Oru nadigai naadagam paarkiraal).
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 64.136.26.31) on: Fri Apr 18 12:21:53 EDT 2003
  
  bb,
  I made that Monalisa smile analogy long time ago in some thread. Good memory. This song and "Pon Ezhil" are enough to get Panju Arunachalam into the history books as a classic lyricist.
  
  Now, how come you IR fans didn't think of this song for song of the century? Beats many other nominations to a pulp. The start has a throwback thogayara with "Un ninaivae poadhumadi" then the startling violin strumming (not in a bad way of course) underscores the transition to the fast pallavi (whatever happened to this kind of transition in TFM?) Man, what a ride? What a classy way to woo somebody!
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Fri Apr 18 12:48:51 EDT 2003
  
  Subbu, indhap paattu idhu varaikkum paaththadhillai, looks like a must-see :)
  
  Udhaya, I guess I am not the only one who thought this was not by IR, then.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.121) on: Fri Apr 18 14:33:10 EDT 2003
  
  wild! that is what how the orchestration goes!
  a classic.
  
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Fri Apr 18 15:09:27 EDT 2003
  
  bb, many late 70s IR songs sounded a whole lot different from his early 80s songs. Another song that you would have probably found it difficult to believe that it was composed by IR is "Thirutheril varum silayo". Sounds much more like his predecessor's. There was a change in feel after Moodupani/Johny, IMO, with more WCM-rich interludes.
  
  
• From: sk (@ 202.156.2.7) on: Fri Apr 18 16:13:11 EDT 2003
  
  bb:
  
  A wonderful song selection for the week end. A song composed from the heart with a lot of enjoyment. I am sure SPB would have thoroughly enjoyed singing this song when it was given to him.
  
  Usual-aa raga ennannu solveengaLE? Is it in Natabairavi scale?
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Fri Apr 18 16:19:42 EDT 2003
  
  sk, this is sindhu bhairavi, I think.
  
  
• From: sai (@ 12.221.53.61) on: Fri Apr 18 16:37:06 EDT 2003
  
  beautiful song! look how tabla used while singing charanam......excellent!
  
  
• From: sai (@ 12.221.53.61) on: Fri Apr 18 16:51:59 EDT 2003
  
  one thought....while hearing "un vizhiye podhumadhi" part, its remind u of similar part in "nadikannin kadali, nadagam eanadi" song (i forgot the movie name, its kamal movie)....only that part, as everything else are entirely different....
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 64.136.26.31) on: Fri Apr 18 19:06:42 EDT 2003
  
  Vijay,
  The string usage in "Vihiyilae" is as good as any he used after "moodupani". I don't buy the argument that after "Moodupani" he got better with WCM and before that he sounded like his predecessors. I think his orchestration had a lot more intricacies and his arrangements were a lot more elaborate than they were in the mid-80s.
  
  -Kaatrinilae Varum Geetham
  -Priya
  -Ullasa Paravaigal
  -Aaradhanai
  -Kann Sivandhaal Mann Sivakkum
  -Naan Vaazhavaippaen
  -Enakkaaga Kaathiru
  -Pattaakathi Bairavan
  -Ilamai Oonjalaadugirathu
  -Eera Vizhi Kaaviyangal
  -Kaadhalae Oadivaa
  -Thiyaagam
  -Niram Maaraatha Pookkal
  
  I would pick the above over most things he did post 80s. It's not that he got more into WCM, he just automated his process or simplified his approach directly proportional to the number of movies he did. Pre-83 his works are peerless and belong in a cultural archive somewhere (well I'm still fervently collecting every missing piece from this era for myself personally). So, we can argue long and hard if you want because his early phase is very dear to me, so much so that it hurts to hear people praise him for his lesser later efforts.
  
  
• From: Fan (@ 65.176.168.167) on: Fri Apr 18 21:04:49 EDT 2003
  
  Raja Enbar used to play in the evenings on Ungal Viruppam, i can never forget the twilight with all the children stopping play returning home, lights comin on in the MIG apartments (Middle Class Income Group ;--) and then the song playing in the radio almost every day. Mornings goint to school in the bus, it was one of the classics of Indian film songs - Vizhiyile Malanrdadhu or by 4 p.m. retunring home the shops having this on radio this song on radio every day, man, every day! Poonthendraley is the more brilliant brilliant composition in the movie but outdone by other two for the gentle feelings the they evoked.
  
  Vizhiyile Malarndadhu, Poo Vizhi Vaasalil Yaaradi Vandadhu, Senthazam Poovil, Ilamayenum Poongatrey, Pon Maalai Pozhudhu, En Iniya Pon Nilavey for me defined the turn of the 70s and beginning of 80s and perhas the twilight zone of the age of innocence.
  
  
• From: JayVee (@ 205.188.208.71) on: Fri Apr 18 22:18:47 EDT 2003
  
  
  How can I copy these beatiful songs into my hard disk.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Sat Apr 19 00:10:34 EDT 2003
  
  "I don't buy the argument that after "Moodupani" he got better with WCM and before that he sounded like his predecessors"
  
  Not an argument, just an observation :-) And secondly I didnt imply anywhere that IRs songs between 76 and 80 were not good. I like "Vizhiyle malarndhadhu" as well as "Poongaatru Pudhidhaanadhu" (1982 or 83) although the cello and strings-laden interludes in the latter impressed me more.
  
  Some of the albums you have listed like Ullaasap Paravaigal, Anbe Odi vaa (I think you meant this instead of "Kaadhale Oodi Vaa"), Enakaga Kaathiru, Aradhanai, Kann Sivandhaal Mann Sivakkum, Eeera Vizhi Kaaviyangal etc. actually came AFTER Moodupani in 1980. Thats my point.
  
  You can check it out here
  http://www.raajangahm.com/ric/film/FL-1980.html
  
  Only a few like Sigappu Rojaakal (1978) were exceptions to this.
  
  "Pre-83 his works are peerless and belong in a cultural archive somewhere (well I'm still fervently collecting every missing piece from this era for myself personally). So, we can argue long and hard if you want because his early phase is very dear to me, so much so that it hurts to hear people praise him for his lesser later efforts."
  
  To each his opinion. To me it hurts when people under-rate some of his songs after 1983 and claim everything good that IR did came between 78 and 82.
  
  Anyways, I do like all the following songs that came before 1980. They rank very high on my favourite IR songs list:
  
  1. Kanden engum Poomagal
  2. En Raagangal indru (Mudhal Iravu. Have you listened to this? Wonderful song)
  3. Engum Niraindha iyarkayil
  4. Devan Thiruchabai Malargale
  5. Thirutheril Varum
  6. En kanmani ila maangani
  7. songs from Kavikuyil, Gayathri
  
  and so on and on..
  
  There were gradual changes in style and feel throughout, IMO, starting off with folk songs in late 70s predominantly with occasional singer's melodies(resembling his predecessor), moving onto songs with more harmony in the first 3 or 4 years of the 80s and then onto the electronics and computer era around the Punnagai Mannan/Vikram time. His songs in Anjali(1990), for example, were nothing close in terms of feel to anything that he did before 1980. But I thoroughly enjoyed Anjali as well.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Sat Apr 19 02:36:44 EDT 2003
  
  It's probably got to do with the number of movies IR did too. He did ~ 30 movies a year till 1982. He did 43 movies in 83, 54 movies in 84 and 51 movies in 1985. So, the %age of good songs ratio might be less after 1983, than before. May be due to the sheer volume of songs that he was doing.
  I agree with the main point of Udhaya, though, that his compositions pre-1983 are sheer class and fresh and show his prime and vigor of youth. case in point: vaan engum thanga viNmeengaL from 3rd pirai in 1982.
  
  

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