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KAVIYARASU KANNADASAN

Topic started by On behalf of Sankar (@ 210.186.51.129) on Mon Dec 30 07:11:34 EST 2002.
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Kaaviyathayin Illaya magan
Kadhal Pengalin Perun thalaivan
Paamara jaadiyil thani manidan – naan
Padaippadhanal yen per Iraivan

Naan Manida jaadiyai aati vaipen – avar
Maandu vital adhai paadi vaipen
NAAN NIRANDARAM AANAVAN AZHIVADILAI
ENDA NILAYILUM ENAKKU MARANAM ILLAI

These are the great lines of Kaviyarasu Kannadasan in the movie Ratha Thilakam where he acts in the movie singing these lines. ( Song.. Oru Koopayilae yen kudiyiruppu)

What a visionary he was ? Indeed, he is NIRANDARAMAANAVAN.

I share some of my observations about Kavingyar. I want all the fans of HIM to join this discussion and add more quality material in praise of his great works.
This is the only way we pay tributes to this GENIUS.
WILL WE EVER GET BACK A KAVINGYAR LIKE KANNADASAN ??

Read the complete opening post here.

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• From: R.Mahendra Raj (@ 210.186.0.35) on: Thu Apr 17 03:08:53 EDT 2003
  
  A virtually unknown songwriter going by the name of Nellai Arulmani wrote the song "Maalayittan oru mannan" and it was passed off as kaviarasar's for the film 'Avan Oru Sarithiram'(1976). Kaviarasar came to know about this only much later after the film was released. He admonished the producer, Kuttralingam (name sounds 'guilty' right?!)for not showing Nellai Arulmani's name in the title credits.
  
  Btw, another kaviarasar's song "En manathu ondruthaan Un meethu nyabagam" could not be accomodated in this film although it was meant for it. Even the discs state this film. However, it was used in another black & white film starring Sivakumar and Padmapriya ('Perumaikkuriyaval' 1979).
  
  Remember the song "Paadinar kavingyar paadinar"?. It was recorded for the film 'Nichiya Thamboolam' (1961) but could not be included due to the film's length. It was used the following year for the film 'Thendral Veesum' but the record states the former film.
  
  Will be back soon folks!
  
  
• From: Vaathiyaar (@ 203.106.140.141) on: Thu Apr 17 05:05:44 EDT 2003
  
  Vaali's socialist themed song "Ingu nalla irukkanum ellorum" in the MGR-starrer 'Oru Thai Makkal' 1972)
  
  Wasn't this song Neenga nalla irukkanum naadu munnera and wasn't it from Ithaya Kani?
  I know that this song has been used on Dato Samy Vellu when he attended some functions!
  And a new version of this song was made some years back, this time on JJ Amma.
  
  
• From: puvanes (@ 161.142.100.87) on: Thu Apr 17 09:31:00 EDT 2003
  
  after ten years separation from mu.karunanithi kaviyarasu attended a kaviyaranggam organised by salem ganapathy.Kalainyar was the chairman for the ceremony.The title for the kaviyaranggam was 'kanakku'.Kaviyarasu chose 'koottal'(+) for his song.the song was:
  
  kootti kazhitthu kuraiyaa porul valarkkum
  naattukottai marabil naanum piranthavanthaan
  aanaalum en kanakko atthanaiyum thavaraagum
  koottugindra neratthil kazhippen,kuraiyendru
  kazhikkindra nanbargalai koottuven
  kartpanaiyai perukkuven,
  atthanayum pizhayendru thudaippathaal perukkuven
  ethetho perum periya thitthanggal vaguppen
  vagutthathellam vadikatti paarttha pinbu sirippen!
  adadaa naan theivatthin kaibommai!
  
  this was the way kannadasan introduced himself in the kaviyaranggam.Later kalainyar introduced kaviyarasu in the kaviyaranggam with his poem
  
  kazhitthal kanakkil iruntha kavinyar ivar indru
  koottal kanakkil inainthu vitthaar nammodu
  saletthil serntha nanbar naanggal meendum
  saletthil servathartku yaar thayavu vendum?
  kaviyarasendra en thozharthammai azhaikkindraar
  enakku kobam!
  yaan amaichuthaane, ivar arasandro?
  arasaraaga irunthaalum ivar en otrar enben
  aiyirandu patthaandu aiya ivar maaruvedam poondu
  maatrar padai veettai chutri vanthaar
  indru marupiravi edutthu inggu vanthaar
  kuyil endru parakka vitten paadivara
  kotthaangal kootthatthil kuyil paatu edupadumaa?
  koopittu konden en thotthatthirtke
  thottham vantha kuyile en tholil thotthum kiliye
  koottal kavithai aartthu kalippil emmai aazhtthu
  
  this was the proof how deep their friendship was.
  
  
• From: R. Mahendra Raj (@ 203.106.49.188) on: Thu Apr 17 09:47:02 EDT 2003
  
  Vaathiyar, no - both are different songs. The 'Idyakanni' song was more on praises heaped on MGR whereas the one in 'Oru Thai Makkal' was purely a socialist theme.
  
  If you are residing in Malaysia probably you would not have heard the song being aired by RTM for reasons mentioned earlier. Try looking for a video cassette of this film in the local video shops for verification.
  
  Btw, this film and 'Annamitta Kai'(1971) were the last MGR black & white movies.
  
  And now lets' go back to kaviarasar...
  
  Palani Bharathi, the new generation songwriter, says that his guru is kaviarasar. He had pored over all the works of kaviarasar and finds that the latter had had touched on all matters and topics. There is no subject he had overlooked which is why he regards him as his mentor.
  
  When his parents were staying in Karaikuddi trying to make ends meet it was kaviarasar who brought them to Madras. He gave Palani Bharathi's father a job in his 'Thendral' periodical.
  
  One day he casually asked Palani Bharathi's father as to how he is coping up with his new city surroundings. The former's reply became the inspiration for his song "Paarappa Palaniappa pattanama pattanama" ('Peria Idathu Penn' 1963)!
  
  See you again folks!
  
  
• From: R. Mahendra Raj (@ 210.186.2.189) on: Fri Apr 18 02:57:15 EDT 2003
  
  Hi! folks, back again.
  
  The production team of the MGR-starrer 'Mannathi Mannan' (1961) comprising kaviarasar, director Nadesan and other key members decided to hold the story discussions in a hotel in Bangalore.
  
  Of course, no discussions in Bangalore is complete without the attendant 'firewater'!. While the discussion was going on kaviarasar noted that it was getting nowhere and begining to get monotonous. He excused himself and went out of the room. A short while later he banged the room door and with a disguised raised-pitch voice shouted "police, open the door"!
  
  Inside, the inebriated occupants ran helter skelter whilst clearing the bottles and liquor glasses. Nadesan quickly locked himself in the toilet carrying his glass along! Kaviarasar coolly walked in and reminded the occupants that 'this was not Tamil Nad'. Only then did it dawn on them of kaviarasar's naughtiness. After noticing Nadesan's absence and after a thorough search they found in him in the toilet in a half squatting position taking a comfortable nap with the glass still in his hand!
  
  At that moment due to their altered state it did not strike them that there were no prohibition laws in Karnataka State. This was the very purpose they chose this venue to carry-out their business-sum-pleasure mission. After a hearty laugh and more drinks the monotony was broken, thanks to kaviarasar's prank!
  
  Btw, director Nadeson was fond of literally sleeping on the job. Yes, he used to doze off while seated in the director's chair in the midst of shooting!
  
  Bye, and will be back again soon, folks!
  
  
  
• From: R. Mahendra Raj (@ 203.106.49.105) on: Fri Apr 18 11:13:04 EDT 2003
  
  Puvanes, the song "Kalangathiru manamae Un kavalaigam yaavum theerum oru dhiname" was written by kaviarasar in 1949 for Jupiter Movies 'Kanniyin Kaathali' - music by SM Subbiah Naidu. Actually he wrote the song to motivate himself with prophecy. Five years later his lines became true through the film 'Illara Jothi' where he wrote the story, dialoges and songs and became a celebrity overnight.
  
  Kaviarasar affectionately addressed SMS as 'sangeetha ayya' and the latter in turn called him 'pattu ayya' throughout their friendship. Kaviarasar once commented that SMS may be ignorant of western music but he is a maestro in handling Indian musical instruments.
  
  Ram, to your earlier query I inadvertently missed out the poets' names besides Marudhakasi, Kaa. Mu. Shariff and Ku. Maa. Balasubramaniam. In order to understand our kaviarasar one must compare the works of his predessors as well as his contemporaries, names as above and under:-
  
  Before kaviarasar's entry in 1949 there were some songwriters like Kavikunjaram, Santhana Krishna Naidu, Kovai Ayya Muthu, Thamizh Oli, Kavi Arumuganaar, Aanai Vaithiyanatha Aiyyar, Kovi Manisegaran, Kee.Vaa. Jagannathan, Vembathur Krishnan, Thamizh Azhagan, Adiyaar, Sirrppi, Gangai Kondaan, Poonguyilan, S.N. Ravi, Kalimuthu, Pattukottai Thanadabani, Arivumathi, Muthubharathi, Rajeshkanna, Ilanthevam, Nellai Ganapathy, Arunasalam K.C. etc.
  
  Any of the above names ring a bell to you? In my case, nope! Of course, during kaviarasar's time there were poets like Papanasam Sivan, Mugavai Rajamanikam, T.K. Sunthara Vaathiyaar, S.T. Somasundram, Madhu Bhaskara Dass, Annal Thango, Suthanandha Bharathiyar, Udumalai Narayanakani, Rajagopal Aiyyar, Suppu Arumugam, Kalki Krishnamurthi, Bhoomi Baladass, Velsaami Kavi, Naanjil Rajappa, Khambathasan, Paa. Athimoolan, Namakkal Kavinjar, Letchumana Dass, M.S. Subramania, T.K. Shanmugam, Surabhi, Vidan Ve. Letchumanan, K.B. Kaamatchi, Vinthan, Kothamangala Subbhu, Thanjai Ramaiahdass, K.D. Santhaanam, Mu. Karunaneedhi, Suratha, Kuyilan, Ku.Sa. Krishnamurthi, M.K. Aathmanathan, Alangudi Somu, Mayavanathan, K.S. Gopalakrishnan, Kovai Kumaradeva, Rajagopal, P.K. Muthusamy, Jayakanthan, Panju Arunachalam, Thanjai Vaanan, Puratchidasan, Sithambara Varathadasan, V. Seetharaman, Thiruchi Thiagarajan, Dr. Ulundurpettai Sanmugam, Eelathu Rathinam, Ponnadiyaan, Ira. Palanisamy, Mudiyarasan, A.L. Narayanan, K. Devanarayanan, Villiputhan, Palladam Manikam, Muthukuthan, Malliyam Rajagopal, Pulamai Pithan, Naa. Kamarasan, Valampuri John, Roshana Begum, Sithambaranathan, Nellai Arulmani, Narayana Babu, Poovai Sengootavan, Aavinaasi Mani, Muthulingam, Kaalidasan, Aatralarasu, Kanmani Suppu (his son), Gangai Amaran etc.
  
  And of course, Vaali and Vairamuthu.
  
  Except for a few popular songs here and there by these songwriters none of them could match kaviarasar's simplicity and wordplay. He was reigning supreme over all the above songwriters which is why he was called the 'King of Poets'.
  
  Bye folks see you again, and have a nice week-end.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.171) on: Fri Apr 18 14:06:41 EDT 2003
  
  Puvanes/ Mahendra Raj- here are the lyrics of Kannadasan’s first song:
  
  Kalangaadhiru manamey-
  un kanavellaam ninaivaagum oru dhinamey
  
  Kadinappadaamal edhum kaikku varaadhu
  Kashtappaduvaar thammai kai nazhuvaadhu
  Aduthathaduthu muyandraal aagaadhadhedhu
  
  Aanvaadai koodathendra Alliyum oru naal
  Arjunan valaithannil veezhndhanal sariyaai
  Pagattukkaaga ummai paarkave maruthaalum
  paruva kaalam avalai paadai paduthividum-
  Aduthakanam unmel aasaiyum vaipaal
  Ahaha endru muththamum koduppaal
  
  Jupiter Pictures’ Kanniyin Kaadhali-1949 was directed by the great K.Ramnath. ( I vaguely remember reading somewhere that it was an adaptation of Shakespeare’s Twelfth Night).
  This song was sung by KV Janaki. Music by SMS. As in the case of many of the films of those days, Kanniyin Kadhali had two MDs- SMS and CR Subburaman. Kannadasan wrote two songs for CRS too in the film- Kaaranam theriyaamal ullam sandhosham kondaaduthey by MLV and perhaps Puvi raja en aaruyir jothiye by Tiruchi Loganathan & MLV. (A HMV compilation of Tiruchi Loganathan’s songs ‘Vaaraai nee vaaraai’ credits Puvi raja en aaruyir to Udumalai Narayana Kavi, but I don’t think Narayana Kavi wrote any song in Kanniyin Kaadhali. Can anyone clarify this?)
  Kannadasn wrote 8 songs for the film. There were totally 15 songs in it.
  The other lyricists in Kanniyin Kadhali were KD Santhanam- 2 songs (his songs were Kalaiyin perumai sollappomo and Aasaippatten machaan) and Pudhukamban Bhoomibalakadas- 5 songs (the most popular of his was ‘Yosithu paaramal ethayum seiyaathey)
  
  
• From: R. Mahendra Raj (@ 203.106.49.174) on: Sat Apr 19 00:39:17 EDT 2003
  
  Thanks Saravan for the info on kaviarasar's premier song.
  
  The first ever dream picturisation duet song in the Tamil film industry was 'Naadagamlellam kandaen unthan aadum vizhiliyilae' ('Madurai Veeran' 1955). Although kaviarasar concentrated on the story and scripting alone, Lena Chettiar insisted on an unique love song by the former. That's the reason in the title credits you can see kaviarasar's name under this song title. The picturisation came out very well with excellent superimposing shots. It was an excellent effort with the barest minimum of technology those days. Lena Chettiar was so impressed that he garlanded kaviarasar when the latter walked into the studio!
  
  Btw, after this film's success there was an apparent friction between Lena Chettiar and kaviarasar over the latter's habitual latecoming to work. When Lena Chettiar decided to produce 'Raja Desingu' (1959) he excluded kaviarasar from his team.
  
  When NSKrishnan came to act out his role he asked that his script be read by his assistant. After listening to the script he commented that "nowadays Kannadhasan is slacking in his profession" because of the amateurish work. Lena Chettiar then told him that the script was written by a new comer who is disciplined and punctual unlike Kannadhasan who was a habitual late-comer.
  
  NSK was offended by this statement by Lena Chettiar. He sarcastically shot back that his chauffuer is a man of punctuality also and therefore he could also use him as one of the scriptwriters for this film!
  
  Realising that NSK was serious Lena Chetiar went with looking for kaviarasar and finally managed to locate him in his "Thendral' office. After exchanging a few pleasantries the animosity between Lena Chettiar and kaviarasar was forgotten with NSK being the intermediary. So it was back to work for kaviarasar in Lena Chettiar's film, 'Raja Desing'.
  
  Back again folks, bye!
  
  

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