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Copied songs in TFM

Topic started by SRIKANTH (@ 95.minneapolis-07.mn.dial-access.att.net) on Fri Jan 9 19:18:56 EST 1998.
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• From: Ragapriyan (@ 202.54.37.18) on: Fri Dec 4 01:51:41 EST 1998
  
  Shankar:
  
  About that Jaishankar song... do you at least
  remember some words from the pallavi? I am
  curious to find out the song you're referring to.
  
  
• From: haris (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Fri Dec 4 04:05:19 EST 1998
  
  shankar:
  
  it is sayyOni by Junoon and not lucky ali.
  
  Ragapriyan:
  
  Regarding Jagjit singh.. the album is by Jagjit singh and his wife chitra singh (i will give the name of the album later...)
  the tune for the first lines of the charanams of indha manrathil...(the line is..vanna malargalil charugAnAl) are exactly the same...
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Sat Dec 5 04:16:34 EST 1998
  
  haris,
  True, it's by junoon. I got confused with the song
  from harichandra which was copied from lucky ali.
  
  ragapriyan,
  I guess U 'll have to wait till i get a chance to listen to it again :-((
  
  
• From: haris (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Sat Dec 5 04:21:05 EST 1998
  
  Shankar,
  
  can you please give me the songs from harichandra and of lucky ali... i personally feel that lucky ali is one of healthy and decent players in the indipop industry..
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Sat Dec 5 09:25:37 EST 1998
  
  The song enna idhu kanava is copied from lucky ali's album. I dont remember the number but the song has lucky ali as a traveller.
  
  
• From: Shashi (@ pub-10-a-10.dialup.umn.edu) on: Sat Dec 5 18:10:18 EST 1998
  
  Hello
  
  In ARR's latest DSKR, there is a song "Kheva re kheva.." The Charanam's last line very closely resembles the last line of the charanam from the song 'Kaatril enthan geetham...' from jhonny.
  
  I feel this is not an intentional effort by ARR to copy but illustrates how Raja's music has influenced many other MD's who have followed him including ARR.
  
  
• From: haris (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Mon Dec 7 04:22:31 EST 1998
  
  Sashi:
  
  why goto charanam.. the pallavi is nothing butkuchi kuchi rakkamma ponnu venum..
  
  
• From: ProudIRFan (@ begis50.swift.com) on: Mon Dec 7 09:47:29 EST 1998
  
  Guys,
  
  Doli Saj title song has lot of influence from 'inji iduppazhaga'
  
  
• From: ProudIRFan (@ begis50.swift.com) on: Mon Dec 7 09:49:18 EST 1998
  
  Forget to add 'in the interludes'
  
  
• From: Shashi (@ eed02958.mayo.edu) on: Mon Dec 7 10:29:18 EST 1998
  
  Hi haris
  
  I did not write about Kheva re kheva...resembling Kutchi kutchi... because it has already been said somewhere, it is obvious and it is ARR's own. However I did say in another thread that the whole album itself is not upto ARR's standards. Also I would like to add that Sukhvinder Singh has a very good voice and especially at high pitches it is just delightful.
  
  I dont think anybody (before my note) wrote about the similarity of the charanams' last line in Kheva re Kheva.. resembling Katril enthan geethams'... charanams' last line.
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.151) on: Tue Dec 8 10:35:27 EST 1998
  
  Yes, the song BOL SAJNI from DSKR does have some shades of INJI IDUPPAZHAGA but that's about it. It can no way qualify for a copy.
  
  And Haris, I think the Jagjit Song, "Hoton ko chhoo lo tum, mera geet amar kar lo" came much later (early eighties, I guess, starring Raj Babbar and Anita Raj) and apart from its second line, which does follow a similar pattern as the "Mandrathil Odi Varum" song, there's no similarity. I think it will be silly to say that Jagjit Singh copied AM Raja (who I think is the MD of Policekaran Magal). It's probably one of those coincidences where a line or two sound similar.
  
  Cheers!
  Neels
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.151) on: Tue Dec 8 10:47:35 EST 1998
  
  And I forgot to add one point above:
  
  Haris, why is that you doubted A.M.Raja's Tamil number and not Jagjeet Singh?
  
  By the way, last week I heard an English song, which sounded very much like a remixed version of Ottagathai Kattikko. I know for sure it isn't a remix, but, can anyone throw more light on this song? Has anyone heard this one?
  
  (I'll be proud if this one turns out to be a copy of ARR's number!, after all, imitation is .... )
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: haris (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Wed Dec 9 04:58:32 EST 1998
  
  Neels:
  
  I never said either of them was copied from the other. I know that it only a coincidence and a beutiful one... (I specifically mentioned that the onlythe first lines of the charanam sounded the same.
  Look at this;
  pAdungO... Bol sajna(indha rendu vArthai mattum...) AachA...? ippO pAdungO... chembaruthi poovu..(film chembaruthi..)(only those 2 words..)
  you got it?
  
  
• From: Srinivasan (@ 203.197.130.198) on: Thu Dec 10 23:47:38 EST 1998
  
  Neels :
  One of the few occasions when you were way off.
  Indha Mandraththil had nothing to do with AM Raja.
  For one, it was sung by PBS and Janaki. Also MD of Policekaran Magal were MSV-TKR.
  Doesnt matter anyway.
  Keep up the good work
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.182) on: Fri Dec 11 15:32:32 EST 1998
  
  Srinivasan,
  
  Thanks for pointing out the error.
  Sorry guys!
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Nitin (@ lockhart.cs.berkeley.edu) on: Fri Dec 11 21:04:33 EST 1998
  
  Neels:
  
  Where did you hear this english song????
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Mon Feb 8 02:42:55 EST 1999
  
  ARR has been heavily inspired by one pankaj Udhas' ghazal songs which goes like "some sharAb" which has resulted in this one of his good numbers in "Eh ajnabi" from dilsE.
  
  esp in those hi-pitches.
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Wed Feb 10 12:50:38 EST 1999
  
  Neels: I too agree about Bol Sajni, it has had the Inji Iduppu influence, but I also agree that it cannot be considered a copy, there are similarities and many differences. As for the Ottagathha Remix, I know that it hit the Charts in France(The Tamil version, would you believe), so it may well have an English song loosely based on it. I must say, a lot of my European friends really liked it.
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ sagramolapc.cc.bellcore.com) on: Mon Mar 29 15:55:56 EST 1999
  
  Vandemataram U.S release has a new song based on "ottagatha kattiko". It is sung by A.R.Rahman and has some hip hop touch. The song is mostly English plus some hindhi. Good arrangement.
  
  
  
• From: Sangeetha (@ 38.230.118.199) on: Mon Mar 29 18:41:04 EST 1999
  
  In Response to Eden,
  
  SAR's Rosappoo Chinna Rosappoo, Pallavi is lifted from "Kuyile Kuyile Kuyilakka" - En Bommukkutti Ammavukku and in Saranam he lifted from the Saranam of "Kuyile Kuyile Poongkuyile" - Aanpaavam.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 202.54.71.144) on: Mon Mar 29 23:48:14 EST 1999
  
  These guys do so much of cut-and-paste and ultimately it looks like a collage. One thing, they are clever enough (or knowledgeable enough) to take advantage of the naive listeners!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.157) on: Tue Mar 30 15:46:51 EST 1999
  
  sangeetha, good observation.
  
  
• From: Rajesh Ganapathy (@ 202.185.131.120) on: Thu Apr 1 02:37:02 EST 1999
  
  Friends,
  I have a small doubt. The starting drum piece in the song annathae aaduraar (apoorva sagotharargal) aand the drum bit before the pallavi in the song vandhenda palkaraen (annamalai) sound almost the same though the MD's are different. Can someone clarify for me.
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.220) on: Fri Apr 2 10:29:30 EST 1999
  
  Sridhar Seetharaman,
  
  Is there any site where I can get access to the ARR's VandeMataram US version? I would love to listen to the special number. I wonder why he included it ONLY for the US release though!
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: RaGa (@ 202.185.131.2) on: Mon Apr 5 04:27:21 EDT 1999
  
  I'm sorry if I'm wrong but I myself was shocked to hear the piece of keys which comes in the song "vennilave" in the movie minsara kanavu before the first saranam in a programin the cartoon network.
  
  
• From: RaGa (@ 202.185.131.2) on: Mon Apr 5 05:27:47 EDT 1999
  
  I think the song "akila akila" is copied from "Buffalo Soldier"
  
  
• From: Dhandapani (@ 207.12.164.181) on: Mon Apr 5 18:23:10 EDT 1999
  
  Hi friends,
  I strongly feel that when you sing 'Kalam kaththale, oru velai illame' song from Solla thudikkudu manasu in HIGH PITCH, it will 100 % sound like 'Arabi Kadaloram Alagai Kandene' of Bombay.
  
  Anybody to support this fact ?
  
  
• From: eden (@ 202.54.71.148) on: Tue Apr 6 00:07:25 EDT 1999
  
  That I would call `recycle', Dhands, and you know, ARR is a master in recycling (someone said very `eco friendly MD'). Ever heard Alisha's `Made in India' (by Biddu)? This got recycled by ARR in Kaadal Desam (Ennai Kanavillaye Netrodu...)
  
  
• From: RaGa (@ 202.185.130.26) on: Tue Apr 6 03:25:32 EDT 1999
  
  to very common copys
  
  1. In the summertime - Adi anarkali (ullathai alli tha ) courtsey : sirpi
  
  2. Mere lal gawacha - chittu chittu (" " " " ")
  here sirpi wasn't the only one who pressed.
  
  3. Sayyoni - Salomia ( who else - deva) Kannedhirae thondrinal.
  
  4. Sayyoni - En anbae (S.A.R) Thulladha manamum thullum)
  
  
  anybody to add more
  
  
• From: Hrishikesh (@ 202.144.10.93) on: Tue Apr 6 08:25:31 EDT 1999
  
  Hi,
  There goes one song in Anandha Mazhai which is a colour xerox of Maria(Ricky Martin) by who else Deva.Also in Sutthi Suthi Vandeeha (Padayappa) ,ths stanzas sound like Kaatru Veesum Veiyil kaayum(Nila Kaigiradhu) a self inspiration by ARR.
  Bye
  Hrishikesh
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Tue Apr 6 10:50:27 EDT 1999
  
  Yedho oru pAttu - from "therA mErA pyAr amar" (an LM melody)
  
  
• From: Muralidharan (@ host035.databahnsoft.com) on: Fri Apr 9 13:21:19 EDT 1999
  
  There is crappy start for the Muthu song "Thillana thillana". But I am afraid to say that it is not ARR's creation(!). It was lifted from some Indonesian music!! Last year when I was in Bangalore, some slightly old English film (The Island of Dr.Moreau) was released (Marlon Brando). In that, I got stunned to hear the same music, for which Dr.Moreau's daughter will be dancing! If any of you get a chance to see that movie, please confirm this. Engirundhu copy adikkarangappa!!!
  
  - Murali
  
  
• From: Dhandapani (@ 207.12.164.181) on: Fri Apr 9 15:53:17 EDT 1999
  
  you are correct Murali.
  I too watched that horrible movie in '96; I too realized ARR's copy. That tune was well matching to Dr Moreau's daughter (cat) character!
  
  

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