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Mano is better than SPB

Topic started by jonny (@ 203.199.130.32) on Fri Oct 26 06:26:41 EDT 2001.
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I always felt that SPB always faltered as compared to Vani Jayaram or S Janaki in Sankaraparanam. I recently heard these songs by Mano - he did them much better.

So Mano > spb. It is only Mano's humility that he says "SPB is my guru".

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• From: Indrajith (@ 203.145.157.94) on: Mon Mar 22 06:55:12 EST 2004
  
  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
  - Indrajith
  
  
• From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Thu Mar 25 12:17:43 EST 2004
  
  lathika,
  
  blind devotion is better than deafs like you.
  
  what do you mean by listen to mano's music??
  
  Don't you see mano copies SPB's every bit. He is just a third rated clone of SPB. You must be really deaf. To prove your point, why dont you list down all the mano's songs that you think SPB cannot do??
  
  SPB fans are not blind devotees. He has the best voice, great modulation and above all he is the purest 'pakka' play back singer and he is the favourite of all MDs in the south (even ARR). There is no one else in film industry to beat him. That's why he has the biggest fan base in the world!
  
  To all who think Mano is better than SPB: Just stop this non-sense and do something useful!
  
  
  Mano's original voice is in 'nee oru kathal sangeetham' song in nayagan. That's his real voice and all his other songs he just tried to immitate. You should know that he is the biggest devotee of SPB. SPB's is his God. Mano has a big problem with his sruthi (listen to oh janani en swaram nee.. song in pudhiya raagam)
  
  
  
• From: lathika (@ 164.100.73.34) on: Thu Mar 25 21:56:41 EST 2004
  
  CHO:>>>SPB fans are not blind devotees. He has the best voice, great modulation and above all he is the purest 'pakka' play back singer and he is the favourite of all MDs in the south. There is no one else in film industry to beat him. That's why he has the biggest fan base in the world!<<<
  
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  when i was speaking about blind devotion i was speaking about precisely this stuff. don't you realise just how over the top it sounds to make such statements ("..he has the biggest fan base in the world..", how do you know ? as fare as i know the world is a big place inhabited by people talking swahili to esparanto, with all the languages and cultures in between.)
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  coming to manu, i take up the challenge with the very song you mentioned, "nee oru kathal sangeetham". how well/beautifully has he sung this song! just see. it is just because of the monopoly by singers like SPB (i don't blame SPB for this, but the MDs; SPB has done justice to the majority of his songs), that great singers like manu are not able to realise their potential in TFM.
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  lathika
  
  
  
  
• From: subramanian (@ 61.11.88.220) on: Thu Mar 25 22:22:02 EST 2004
  
  this topic is not worth talking about. close this debate. It is like comparing a Merc and Maruthi. Maruthi is cheap thats it. Merc the best of standards, quality, style and engg.SPB is Merc.
  
  
• From: lathika (@ 164.100.73.34) on: Fri Mar 26 03:10:01 EST 2004
  
  MERC or MARUTI?. that is a very interesting point.
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  when we are on the subject, there is a 4 page advertisement in today's Indian Express (i saw the HYD edition) by Maruti Udyog, revealing that they are NUMBER ONE IN India. so what are you saying !!
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  coming to MERC, the MERC world in popular music is i think inhabited by singers like RAFI, JESUDOSS, GHANTASALA etc.. but here we are discussing MANO and SPB, aren't we?
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  lathika
  
  
• From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Fri Mar 26 07:40:33 EST 2004
  
  Lathika, your head is all clouded.. Medidate and take rest. That's all I can say..
  
  Nee oru kathal sangeetham is Mano's best. I can accept that. If I start listing such kind of songs that SPB has done, the list is endless. How hard is it for your accept an obvious fact?
  
  Anyway, when I say the biggest fan base in the world, I am only referring to south indians all over the world. That goes without saying. Find a better reason to debate.
  
  I can accept comparing SPB with KJY bcos they are equally taleted. Comparing SPB with Mano? C'mon.. There are not many people (hardly any) that you can convice to take your side.
  
  Intha thread ivvlo thooram ponadhey peria vishayam!
  
  
• From: harikrishnan (@ 155.69.5.223) on: Fri Mar 26 09:46:46 EST 2004
  
  The undisputed king of Indian film music is none other than YESUDAS!. He has sung in all languages except Kashmiri and Assamese. his songs in Hindi are superhits. Goritera.. and jab Deep Jale..(Hindi) will leave everyone spellbound.In Tamil "Kalaivaniye" is only needed for his versatality of rendition. His hits in Malayalam are endless!. No other singer blends Film and classical music so beautifully!. SPB is great, but lacks the versatality of Yesudas.
  
  
• From: eh? (@ 61.1.222.114) on: Wed Mar 31 01:55:28 EST 2004
  
  MANO?? eh?
  
  
• From: shwetha (@ 61.95.159.16) on: Wed Mar 31 02:38:38 EST 2004
  
  Well Harikrishnan... agreed KJY is indeed a great singer and Jab Deep Jale aana, gori tera, are great compositions...but then I have always felt KJY s rendition, especially of Hindi numbers, lacks the 'feel'(I donno what else to call it), while I find loads of it in SPB's rendition of songs. That way, in my personal opinion, many songs, jab deep jale aana, tu jo mere sur mein, madhuban khushboo deta hai, kahaan se aaye badra, bole to baansuri kahiin and aaj se pehle (of a totally different feel than the others that I ve mentioned) and many others, though have been very beautifully rendered, lack the 'Bhavam' (if i may call it that) that's due to them.
  
  P.s. If u listen carefully, the first line in the first charanam of jab deep... i.e 'mein palkan dagar' when KJY sings it the second time with a slight variation, it almost sounds like an abaswaram to me!
  
  
• From: STICKLER (@ 61.1.222.125) on: Wed Mar 31 03:43:31 EST 2004
  
  BUT STICKING TO THE TOPIC, Mano is better than SPB.
  
  
• From: STICKLER (@ 61.1.222.125) on: Wed Mar 31 03:44:17 EST 2004
  
  BUT STICKING TO THE TOPIC, Mano is better than SPB.
  
  
• From: dAvAndram (@ 202.54.137.100) on: Wed Mar 31 05:19:17 EST 2004
  
  SPB is great, but lacks the versatality of Yesudas
  Very true. SPB is great, but Yesudas is more versatile, much more than the small minds here can grasp. Harikrishnan, please do not get put off by detractors like Shwetha, whose posts are in very bad taste.......Continued in the next post
  
  
• From: dAvAndram (@ 202.54.137.100) on: Wed Mar 31 05:23:24 EST 2004
  
  ...except that my definition of versatility differs from the conventional interpretation. It is, catering to songs of different genres, absolutely different genres but.......giving 'em all the same treatment. Nobody can come close to our idol in this.
  
  Hari....Krishnan the name is a give away, perhaps a good peek beyond the coconut oil laden land can usher in some musical perceptions.
  
  
• From: STICKLER (@ 61.1.222.68) on: Wed Mar 31 07:17:25 EST 2004
  
  dAvAndram (@ 202.54.137.100) on: Wed Mar 31 05:23:24 EST 2004....
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  I have never come across anything so muddle-headed.."TOUNGUE-IN-CHEEK" is an art not everybody can carry off well.
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  Well, the phrase "give-away" is used when somebody is trying to hide something in a clumsy manner, whereas our friend harikrishnan is quite forthright about who he is.
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  you seem to agree too with his contention that YD gives same efficient teatment to all genres. so what is your complaint?
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  probably you need to do a little bit of disentangling of your thought processes. A good cure is round the corner.. Keep going..continued in the next post
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• From: STICKLER (@ 61.1.222.68) on: Wed Mar 31 07:27:36 EST 2004
  
  ..well.. have you looked beyond our immediate neighborhood towards the coconut oil laden land for a comparison? our friend HK seems to know a little bit of TFM. But what about you? there is some very good music over there. probably you will get some new perspective on music (widening one's horizons, as they say..)
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  By the way WHAT ABOUT THE RIDICULOUS TOPIC of this discussion, manu is better than SPB?
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  STICKLER.
  
  
  
• From: S Balu (@ 203.197.216.67) on: Wed Mar 31 08:22:14 EST 2004
  
  Hello STOP THIS Listen Telugu Version of 'Nee Oru Kaadhal' By SPB, Noone Can dispute this, SPB is The BEST, Even Great Like Md. RAFI and KJJ Accept This. OK Stop This
  
  
• From: dAvAndram (@ 202.54.137.100) on: Wed Mar 31 09:00:07 EST 2004
  
  STICKLER....as if misinterpreting one's post is not sinful enough, in your misplaced excitement, you have exhibited yet another weakness......probably you meant 'Tongue'. My post(s) were critical of KJY and if you have not had the gumption to grasp it....well the art of understanding a t-in-c remark is certainly not something you have mastered. The problem is that our friend HK knows only a little about TFM and nothing at all about versatility. As for music that lies yonder, my ears have heard enough to discern the lack of 'breadth' in 'their' music. You may want to start your (creative) thought process mate. You know, it is pretty enjoyable to think, to feel and gain original insights into art as opposed to finding new ways to exhibit the lack of all that I have mentioned above.
  
  
• From: STICKLER (@ 61.1.222.119) on: Thu Apr 1 00:13:53 EST 2004
  
  Very good. bears out what i had said. still muddle headed. the very fact that you had to explain your t-i-c, means you do not know the art.
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  what you have is dogmatism,intolerance (reread your postings..the condemnatory tone.. 'lack of breadth', 'their' etc..). apparently you cannot accept anything ouside your immediate backyard (having enough info- so you say- is not equal to having the ability to discern..).
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  well, i agree, everything about 'them' (kalacharam, environment, literature, literacy etc..)is hyped because they dominate the national media. i agree most of it is simply spin. but when it comes to the quality of light music, film music, i salute their taste (i am concerned with depth, not 'breadth'). listen to hundreds of near classical renderings in their films. just to listen to a sample: "harimuraleeravam (KJY)", pramathavanam meendum (KJY)", "swathithirunaalinte gamini (i think J.chandran)", you will know what i mean. why are'nt there such songs in TFM? when there were a few, why did they not become hits? why are we permanently satisfied with the offkey singing of udit, paravai muniamma, and a host of other such singers?
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  i think SPB's greatness has been diluted by the countless ugly numbers our MDs have made him sing. the audience, i.e. we, are to blame. most of such numbers are dead to the posterity, already. our music (FM) is linked too strongly to the topical, to the actor in the film, to the present trend, and thus so has less longevity. we don not encourage the best, but the popular. we are he worst (at least in south) in this respect.
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  by the way, t-i-c is successful only when there is some indulgence shown to the victim. your stuff i would call simple, badly placed sarcasm which is the opposite of wit.
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  stickler
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  P.s. you will improve
  
  
• From: STICKLER (@ 61.1.222.119) on: Thu Apr 1 00:28:39 EST 2004
  
  OH, dAvAndram (@ 202.54.137.100
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  >> My post(s) were critical of KJY and if you have not had the gumption (??)to grasp it...<<
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  you have surely not seen the slight difference in what you stated (".......giving 'em all the same treatment..") and what i reproduced in my post.
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  anyway, you will improve.
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  STICKLER
  
  
  
  

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