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Raga of song please

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

Note: You may want to refer to the list of raga based film songs before posting a query.

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• From: M. Diwakar (@ j13.bkj31.jaring.my) on: Mon May 11 05:41:26 EDT 1998
  
  Can anyone let me know if IR has tuned any song in 1. Behag
  2. Hameer Kalyani
  
  
• From: saketh (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu) on: Mon May 11 14:12:04 EDT 1998
  
  suresh,
  
  thanks for the info on Bilahari. Does anyone know what the Bilahari song in Unnal mudiyum thambi is??
  
  
• From: Chandramouli (@ kcpxy3.att.com) on: Mon May 11 15:08:54 EDT 1998
  
  Hi,
  I dont know whether u guys left it since u know but I think the obvious song that come to my mind for Bilahari is i think
  "Broche Vaa Revarura" Shankarabharanam
  "Maamma oodu machee oodu" Ellame inbamayam
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on: Mon May 11 20:22:29 EDT 1998
  
  chandramouli,broche vaa and 'mama voodu' are definitely not in the same raaga.i think broche vaa is kamas.
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Mon May 11 22:10:36 EDT 1998
  
  saketh,
  
  It is "nee ondru thaanaa sangeetham".
  
  "maaman oodu machi oodu" is based on the "raara venugopala"(bilahari) mettu.
  
  
• From: S.Suresh (@ dwarpal.wipsys.soft.net) on: Tue May 12 01:38:34 EDT 1998
  
  Mouli,
  
  Brochevaru is in Kamas. not Bilahari. Do you remember the song "Dorakuna" from Sankarabaranam. This is the one in which Balu coughs a it. The first line is from a Tyagaraja krithi. Dorakuna Itu vanti seva. This kriti was based on Bilahari. They used Kalyani in the film. Only the first line is from the krithi. The other lines differ. Even from older films I cannot recollect Bilahari. I dont know why they didnt use it. Maybe because it has a strong carnatic flavour and it is difficult to dilute. I think the same applies to ragams like Begada. ( In Raja Parvai, Kamal is singing Rara Venugopala when his grandmother dies. Maybe they used it b'cause it ends as Ni-Sa which has other connotations). I havent heard Maaman Oodu so I cannot comment on this.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue May 12 07:16:26 EDT 1998
  
  There is a scene in unnAl mudiyum thambi in which Gemini is teaching Ramesh Arvind. They are singing brochEvA in kamaas in that scene. This is when he discovers that Ramesh and his daughter are in love.
  
  
• From: chandramouli (@ kcpxy3.att.com) on: Tue May 12 09:39:27 EDT 1998
  
  Hi,
  Iam sorry about Broche vaa revarura. Its indeed kamas. But ofcourse "Maaama oodu machi oodu" is bilahari since its got the same tune as "Raara venu gopapaala". I am sorry I dont know how I could make such an egregious error. I think it just slipped my mind and I had posted this in a haste without even checking it once. Sorry Folks
  
  
• From: Neels (@ ppp45-203.lvsb.vsnl.net.in) on: Tue May 12 12:00:02 EDT 1998
  
  1. Any IR composition in Raga NAYAKI?
  2. Which Raga is the song "Naane Naana, Yaaro Dana" (Vani Jairam) based on?
  
  Thanks
  Neels
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue May 12 21:18:48 EDT 1998
  
  Is the song, "Boopalam Isaikkum Poomagal Oorvalam" from Thooral Ninnu Poachu in Boopalam ragam?
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tp03.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed May 13 02:24:20 EDT 1998
  
  Udhaya:
  
  Good Guess! But kidayaadhu! AppO vaera endha
  raagamnnu kaekkureengala ?
  
  
  
• From: Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ m42.m59.big.ac.at) on: Wed May 13 04:17:39 EDT 1998
  
  Udhaya,
  
  'Bhoopalam isaikkum' sounds like Gowri Manohari.
  
  G. Ramaswamy
  
  
• From: Neels (@ ppp29-139.lvsb.vsnl.net.in) on: Wed May 13 06:03:53 EDT 1998
  
  No, BHOOPALAM ISAIKKUM is in Keeravani, pretty close to Gowri manohari (Ni2)
  Interestingly, another song from the film "ThangaCh Changili" is also based on Keeravani.
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Wed May 13 16:30:06 EDT 1998
  
  Neels and Ramaswamy, thanks for the knowledge. Bhaskar, meendum Senthilthanama samy?
  
  
• From: mfm (@ 203.120.115.1) on: Wed May 13 22:10:09 EDT 1998
  
  What is the raga used in
  1. Malare Pesu Mounamozhi(IR & Chitra) from Geethanjali
  2. Ennai Thalatta from KM
  
  Thanks
  
  
• From: badri raghavan (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Thu May 14 00:27:25 EDT 1998
  
  hi friends,
  
  there is an excellent song in bilahari from the movie balanagamma sung by kj jesudas. the song is "koondalile megam vandu". ir has used shylaja's humming in very appropriate situations especially in the last charanam.
  
  
  
• From: Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ m42.m59.big.ac.at) on: Thu May 14 02:54:01 EDT 1998
  
  Udhaya and Neels,
  
  I was trying out the song on my keyboard. Both d1 and d2 appear in the charanam. So it is actually a combination of both keeravanai and gowri manohari. Is there some raga with these swaras?
  
  G.Ramaswamy
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ gateway8.ey.com) on: Thu May 14 16:52:55 EDT 1998
  
  Can someone tell me which raga are the following songs
  
  1. Naan Thedum Sevanthi Poo Ethu - Tharmapathini
  2. Mallargale Nathasvarangal - Kizhake Pogum Rayil
  3. Manjolai Killithano - --Do ----
  
  
• From: saketh (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu) on: Thu May 14 17:52:45 EDT 1998
  
  1. Naan Thedum sevanthi poo ethu - Hindolam
  
  2. Malargale Naathasvarangal - Hamsadwani
  
  3. Manjolai kilithaano - ??? (don't know)
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Thu May 14 22:07:26 EDT 1998
  
  Manjolai kilithaano - karaharapriya
  
  
• From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com) on: Thu May 14 23:31:38 EDT 1998
  
  "maniyE, manikuyilE" - mano & SJ duet,
  sounds like MMG.
  
  "sAmakozhi koovum bhodhu" - SPB & SJ duet (from
  vanna vanna pookal???) is MMG?
  
  Anybody can confirm?
  
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on: Fri May 15 00:06:40 EDT 1998
  
  mannaru,
  maniye manikuyile is definitely not MMG.sounds closer to sindhubhairavi.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219) on: Fri May 15 00:09:41 EDT 1998
  
  rajaraman,
  the first two lines of manjolai atleast is not definitely karaharapriya.'poo malarnthida' from tik tik tik is karaharapriya.u can notice the vast difference between the 2 songs.i think manjolai is a raagamalika in the first place.and the first 2 lines sounds like hindolam.anybody can confirm?
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Fri May 15 04:35:32 EDT 1998
  
  Maniye manikuyile-Sindhubhairavi or Todi....Hari, pls confirm........
  
  Manjolai kilithaano-I don't remember the song too well, but I think it is Suddha Dhanyasi(old name Uthayaravichandrika....). Tonal shift from Hindolam, both are janya's of KHPriya....
  
  
• From: S.Suresh (@ dwarpal.wipsys.soft.net) on: Fri May 15 05:03:31 EDT 1998
  
  Mannaru,
  
  I think sAmakozhi koovum bhodhu is MMG.
  
  I doubt if Maniye manikuyile is in Todi. Must be SindhuBhairavi.
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Fri May 15 05:51:09 EDT 1998
  
  Vijay
  
  It may be a ragamalika. The last time I heard, there were some good KKpriya shades in the interludes. Well... I need to confirm.
  
  maniye manikkuyile is based on Natabairavi.
  
  
• From: M. Diwakar (@ j15.bkj23.jaring.my) on: Fri May 15 07:19:10 EDT 1998
  
  Geetha, Hindolam is not a janya of KHPriya. It uses the D1. It is possibly a janya of Todi.
  
  Suddha Danyasi is a janya of KHPriya.
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Fri May 15 08:34:08 EDT 1998
  
  Hi, sorry about that........
  
  Hindholam is :
  S G M D N S
  S N D M G S from Natabairavhi/Todi
  
  Uthayaravichandrika/Sudha Dhanyasi is:
  S G M P N S
  S N P M G S from Karaharapriya
  
  
  
• From: Dorai (@ gateway8.ey.com) on: Fri May 15 10:57:46 EDT 1998
  
  Can someone tell what ragas are the follwoing songs
  
  1) Poomalai Vaangivanthen Pookal Illayee - Sindhu Bairavi
  
  2) RagaDeepam Etrum Neram - Payanangal Mudivathilai
  
  These are probably the best of IR which to my opinion no one can ever innovate such songs
  
  
• From: dorai (@ gateway8.ey.com) on: Fri May 15 11:06:30 EDT 1998
  
  And also the following songs of ARR
  1) Ennavalee Ebbavalle - Kaathalan
  2) Kannodu Kaanbathellam - JEANS
  3) Nella Kaaigirathe Neram Theygirathe - Indra
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ gluttony.cs.umass.edu) on: Fri May 15 14:31:56 EDT 1998
  
  dorai: 1) kAnada 2) hamsAnandhi
  ARR's 1,2 & 3 have already been discussed over and over again. Check the old responses.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Fri May 15 17:57:37 EDT 1998
  
  I would like to know the ragam(s) for "Oru Kunguma Chengamalam Ila Mangaiyin Thangamugam"
  
  
• From: Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ m42.m59.big.ac.at) on: Fri May 15 18:42:25 EDT 1998
  
  Udhaya,
  
  'oru kungumach chengamalam' is almost Gowri Manohari, but both M1 and M2 are present in the pallavi. Is there any ragam with this structure?
  
  G. Ramaswamy
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 208.220.240.8) on: Sun May 17 14:51:32 EDT 1998
  
  Vanakkam!!
  
  Can I know what is the raga of the song
  chinna kannan allaikiraan..
  raadhai..poongodhai..
  
  of the film kavikuyil(if I'm not wrong) sung by carnatic fame Dr.Balamuralikrishna.
  
  
• From: saketh (@ calloway-b-asy-13.rutgers.edu) on: Sun May 17 15:01:12 EDT 1998
  
  Aravind,
  
  The song "chinna kannan azhaikkiraan" is a fantastic song based on the raga Riti Gowla. Other film songs based on riti gowla are 'thalaiyai kuniyum thaamaraiye" (from oru odai naddhiyaagiradhu?) and 'raaman kadhai kelungal'from sippikkul muthu.
  
  
• From: S.Suresh (@ dwarpal.wipsys.soft.net) on: Mon May 18 02:31:44 EDT 1998
  
  Hi,
  
  i have been trying to find the ragam for the song "Nila Kaaym Neram Saranam" from Chembaruthi. Someone help me please.
  
  

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