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- From: Subbu (@ 216.251.50.73)
on: Wed Jun 26 06:44:44 EDT 2002
For KRV too, PS' voice was so apt.. Mannavane azhalaamaa, Aththai madi meththaiyadi, Unnai kaaNadha kaNNum kaNNalla, Annamitta kaigaLkku, KaNden kayaNa peN pondra megam, VeLLi Mani Osaiyile, Nalladhoru kudumbam, Thedinen vandhadhu, Poomaalayil Or malligai, Thendralil aadai minna... ethanai then thuLigaL... indha list parakkum list..
VJ also had sung many songs for KRV, but PS' was almost matching...
Anyway, I still keep my vote for Vanishree.. U know even that humming in "VeLLi KiNNandhaan Thanga KaigaLiL" was also....as if Vanishree is humming.. Or its like this... Pattu mudindhu pinnal Vanishree pesum podhu, PS avarukku dubbing voice kuduthal pol irukkum... if anyone watch "Uyarndha manidhan" again, just keep this mind and you will agree with me.. :-))
- From: Raj (@ 203.199.230.172)
on: Wed Jun 26 23:59:15 EDT 2002
Tend to agree with Subbu. PS has sung the maximum for Vanisree. More in Telugu.
The same experience you get when you hear the songs for Sarojadevi as well. In Puthiya Paravai, in Chittukurivu paadal, the first time when PS sings Muthamkuduthu, she says that with a konjum mazhalai, which gels with BS's pronounciation.
Idhaya kamalam paadalgal, Vijayavai kanmun niruththum. "Malargal Nanaithane PaniyaalE" paadalil antha kaalai inimaiyum, KRVin prasanthamaana thotrathaiyum PS than kuralilE konarvaar.
- From: Subbu (@ 216.251.50.73)
on: Thu Jun 27 04:41:59 EDT 2002
Hey any songs in which PS have given only humming..?
I know 3 of them
1. "VeLLi KiNNandhaan Thanga KaigaLiL" from "Uyarndha manidhan"
2. "kalaye en vazhkaiyil thisai matrinaai" from "Meenda sorgam"
3. "Azhagu deivam mella mella adi eduthu vaithadhO" from "Pesum deivam"
Any other songss....?
- From: Subbu (@ 216.251.50.73)
on: Thu Jun 27 04:57:48 EDT 2002
Some time back Raj asked "PS has sung all the songs in a film (other than KARPAGAM). Can you name the film?".I answered as "Komadha en kula madha".
Now I remembered one more. This movie was on "Kamam and Passion and Love", an art movie acted by Mohan (Lakshmi's ex-husband) and Deepa. The expressions were thru classical dances. Music by L. Vaidhynathan or L. Subramaniam. The movie was shot in Tamil, Hindi, Telugu and Malayalam. Hindi film name is: Kaam kala thandav.
I don't think the movie was released but the cassette was out. Somehow I digged our and retraced that cassette from my cassette library. Many are slokas kind of songs out 22 songs. All are our PS and no other singers. It is a real treat.
- From: Subbu (@ 216.251.50.73)
on: Thu Jun 27 05:12:08 EDT 2002
Any one please clarify...? This is a long due doubt to get clarified...
PS's first Tamil film song is "Edhukku vandhe" from "Petra thaai". It was in 1951. Is that very next song is "Unnai kaN thedudhe" (that vikkal song)? But this film released in 1954 I guess. How come this much difference? Or the songs that might have sung in between would not have been recorded in her data bank?
Am just curius to know this....
- From: Vicky (@ 12.89.130.241)
on: Thu Jun 27 10:06:13 EDT 2002
Subbu: "Unnai Kan theduthe" is from "Kanavanae Kan Kanda Theivam" (Gemini & Anjali Devi). The movie was released in 1955. As I mentioned in my earlier piece, PS's singing abilities (most of the songs were hit)was noticed by many composers and then there was the making of a legend. PS never looked back after and PS & TFM became inseparable. Hemanth Kumar/A. Ramarao composed some memeorable tunes for the movie.
- From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Jun 27 10:38:19 EDT 2002
hello all;
what film is the song "Unnai kaanathe kannum kannale " by Susheela amma ?
thanks
- From: Ramki (@ 161.150.2.250)
on: Thu Jun 27 13:23:24 EDT 2002
Does anyone know which film is this PS solo from?
muLLil rojaa thuLLudhe raaja
thunbam enne
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Thu Jun 27 23:27:31 EDT 2002
Unnai kaanathe kannum kannala: From Idhaya kamalam, MD KV Mahadevan, artists Ravichandran and KR Vijaya.
MuLLil rojaa thuLLudhe raaja: I guess it is from Kaatu Roja (not very sure), Padmini and SSR (rare combination acted in only one film together as jodi).
Hi friends, ennudaya keLvigaLukku, badhil kidayaadhaa?
- From: kalai (@ 203.124.234.231)
on: Thu Jun 27 23:39:44 EDT 2002
You are right subbu..
I remember it. It is "AnandaDhandavam". All songs by PS (22 songs-classical ones).
- From: Raj (@ 203.199.230.58)
on: Fri Jun 28 00:02:18 EDT 2002
Subbu,
Between 1951 and 1954 PS was on the rolls of AVM and she had rendered songs in their movies.
"Anandha Dhandavam" The sole artist is PS and I think there is no other artist has such a feather in their caps. Who had rendered the songs in other languages?
Do you know the full name of PS?
"PULABAAGU SUSHEELA"
A chapter on PS running to 40 pages in the book "Thirai Isai Alaigal" by Vaamanan is a treat and informative to PS fans. The book has chapters on several stalwarts. Kudos to Vaamanan!
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Fri Jun 28 01:18:08 EDT 2002
Raj, Kam Kalaa Thandhav(Hindi), Aananda Thandavam(Tamil) and other 2 languages were sung by PS only. No other artist.
Raj, a correction... PS had become AVM artist in 1957 only... this I read in her interview in Mangayar Malar. Thats why I asked that question on between 1951 and 54?
Raj, can you help me in getting that book "Thirai Isai Alaigal"? Pl let me know ur email-id (r u Rajeshkrv or some other Raj?
- From: Raj (@ 203.199.230.181)
on: Fri Jun 28 05:04:20 EDT 2002
Subbu,
Do you have the Hindi and Telugu cassettes. How are the Hindi songs?
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Fri Jun 28 06:08:31 EDT 2002
I have hindi cassette (Kam kala thandhav)... most of songs are like sloka type... still it is worth. As am not very familiar with Hindi pronounciations, I could not make any observation of the pronounciation part.. but inimai nichyam irukku
- From: nagesh (@ 164.164.94.115)
on: Fri Jun 28 07:00:01 EDT 2002
Subbu,
Could you give details where the above mentioned cassette will be available? thaks in advance...
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Fri Jun 28 07:14:54 EDT 2002
Hindi cassette details:
Album/Film name: Kaam Kala Thandhav
Singer: P.Susheela
Music Direction: L. Subramaniam
I got it long back in late 80's. You may get it in HMV show rooms or Planet M kind of stores.
- From: Raj (@ 203.199.230.16)
on: Fri Jun 28 07:35:30 EDT 2002
Subbu,
Thanks for the info. I have sent you a mail.
- From: Raj (@ 203.199.236.194)
on: Fri Jun 28 11:35:45 EDT 2002
Subbu,
PS after her rendition in Petrathaai, had been on the rolls of AVM during which she sung in AVM movies like Penn, Naaganandhini, Sellapillai. (Courtesy Vamanan's article on PS)
- From: kik (@ 207.0.105.159)
on: Fri Jun 28 22:27:33 EDT 2002
muLLil rojaa thuLLudhe raaja is from yaar nee (mus Vedha) starring Jaishanker and J. The film was a remake of woh kaun thi (aval yaar?) w/ music by madan mohan. All the lata M songs were sung by PS in tamil plus veda lifted this one from a different movie (I think).
aap kyon roye became azhuvathEn kanna
?? became ponmEni thazhuvaamal
shokh nazar ki bijliyaan became paarvai ondre pothumaa
There are a couple more songs I don't recall. One is a PBS duet w/ SJ (?) and another is a PS song again lifted from a hindi movie picturized on the 2nd heroine.
- From: Sugrutha (@ 68.37.40.126)
on: Sat Jun 29 00:06:08 EDT 2002
Does anyone remember the movie 'kaNNey pApA' ? I think hero was Jaishankar. There was a nice solo by PS (not the 'kaNNey pApA, en kanimuthu pApA'). Any recall ?
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.247)
on: Sat Jun 29 00:17:43 EDT 2002
Subbu, regarding the songs in which PS has given only humming, other than the 3 you have mentioned I can think of only one more- Thol kanden thole kanden from Idhyakamalam. They may be some more.
However, such humming songs fell mostly into LRE's lot, and sometimes to SJ. PS very rarely was called for just humming. Later in the 70s, B Vasantha and BSS took over the roles of humming birds.
Petrathaai seems to have been released only in 1953, though PS might have recorded the song (Ethukku azhaithaai ethukku) in 1951.
kik, the theme song of Woh Kaun thi- Naina barse rimjhim rimjhim was copied superbly by Veda to give the haunting Naane Varuven ingum angum--.
One more song is Kannukkenna summa summa yengudhu by LRE & co. I don't remember the hindi original of this song. Also I don't recall any PBS song in Yaar Nee.
- From: Raj (@ 203.199.230.141)
on: Sat Jun 29 00:25:43 EDT 2002
"kaNNey pApA" had Muthuraman as the hero. The other solo by PS was 'Katalaiyitathu...' picturised on Vijayakumari.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.247)
on: Sat Jun 29 00:26:00 EDT 2002
Sugrutha, Kanne Papa(1969) had Muthuraman, KRV, Vijayakumari, Nambiar and a child actress who played the papa. Other than the title song you have mentioned, there are two more songs which I remember, one is Thendralil aadai minna (PS), and the other is Sathiya muthirai-PS & co (the famous christmas song, which Chennai DD used to telecast unfailing every christmas)
- From: Sugrutha (@ 68.37.40.126)
on: Sat Jun 29 00:42:02 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
Thanks. Yes, I remember the christmas song. I must be thinking of Thendralil aadai minna. I dont remember the mettu. Is it on the same lines as 'ikkaraiyil naanirukka', 'ennaiyeduthu thannai koduthu' etc. ?
- From: Ramki (@ 65.238.69.196)
on: Sat Jun 29 07:48:57 EDT 2002
Thanks kik
- From: Subbu (@ 203.197.177.11)
on: Sat Jun 29 11:34:33 EDT 2002
What songs PS has sung in PENN, Naaganandhini, Sellapillai? (who acted in that?) Any idea?
Hey guys, I read the huuuuuuge article by Vamanan on PS... really great. So much of details..
One only kurai.. when the song "Malarndhum malaradha paadhi malar pola", Vamanan did not mention about the "Vimmal" (twice) by PS in the charanam "Thanga kadiyaaram..". Even now if PS sings that song in stage, there will be pin-drop silence in the auditorium. That much effective it is..
- From: kik (@ 207.0.105.167)
on: Sat Jun 29 22:42:13 EDT 2002
The original for muLLil rOja is chhod kar tere pyar ka daaman (Mahendra Kapoor and LM). Interesting that Veda converted the duet into a solo and a solo (shokh nazar ki) into a duet (paarvai ondre pothuma).
The very first song in yaar nee is a PBS LRE duet pakkam vantha... that had chikki chikki/tikki tikki or some other nonsense phrase repeated throughout. Picturized on JaiShanker and the 3rd heroine who gets killed shortly after the song.
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