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So, WHO is doing the music for Thangar Bachchan's next film...?

Topic started by Ravi (@ 24.199.91.222) on Mon Jun 30 22:39:10 EDT 2003.
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...titled "Thendral" starring Karthik, produced by Oscar Films V.Ravichandran. Is it Ilayaraja or Vidyasagar? Please let me know. Also, provide a link, if you guys can, where it confirms that Ilayaraja or Vidyasagar is doing the music for Thangar's next film.

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• From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.139) on: Sun Jul 6 05:36:08 EDT 2003
  
  oh is it?
  have u heard his rubbish bgm in Vandicholai Chinraasu. is that what make's him great?
  
  
• From: V (not the V mentioned above) (@ 212.38.69.200) on: Sun Jul 6 09:50:35 EDT 2003
  
  Hi All,
  
  I dont care whether the music is totally western or totally Indian. To me, what matters is whether the music is original, creative and interesting. I would say there are many ARR songs in the early and mid 90s which were good and some were creative, original and interesting. ARR is a very good composer, though not the greatest.
  
  I feel these days, he is less creative. BOYS is a great example of rubbish music. many use superlatives for boys and dont think rationally.
  Thiruda Thiruda had less element of indianness, still it was creative and original ... not Boys. I hope other MDs dont copy this trend of music.
  
  I see fanatics to the core in this forums saying ARR is GOD ... IR is the greatest and dont think rationally.
  
  As far as I think, the difference between IR and ARR is :
  
  IR experiments alot. ARR doesnt do that often. IR doesnt follow the trend set by others, he creates trend. So, IRs music may not be trendy now, but its getting little beyond comprehension of an average listener (includes me, I listen to some 90s songs of IR now and feel it was good than I first heard). ARR produces catchy tunes ... IR doesnt do that now.
  
  ARR is trendy. I hope he get into new zone sooner, instead of repeating things. I hope IR or ARR's album gets a proper recognition instead or overrating or underrating it.
  
  V
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 202.88.155.34) on: Sun Jul 6 12:36:44 EDT 2003
  
  V (the 141..)
  Of course, it is. We use this medium because this is possibly THE only platform of choice for a wider diaspora to get together and converse. The day there is an alternative Thamizh browser that is versatile, user-friendly and accessible equitably, I'm sure that would become the preferred medium for a significant number, if not the majority of people who visit a language-centric site such as TFM. On why we use English and the 'hypocrisy' tag that you use, this is another topic for an ethno-socio-cultural debate that I'm sure this forum can do without.
  
  Suffice to say that negating the central importance of ethnicity, lingual and cultural specificity in a mass media/artform such as cinema is to be grossly generalistic. When the music is aimed at a niche urban upper-class audience like Boyz is, it is very well to have a Blaaze' or an Adnan sing; not otherwise.
  
  And.. why would a song become a 'dandanakka' song if you throw away the keyboard? And should I also assume that you would classify any classical/folk song as 'dandanakka' and hence deserving your contempt? I can only be charitable in thinking that you wrote such inventive stuff to just have your piece of fun..
  
  V (212..)
  Boys, 'a great example of rubbish music'? Wow, a most 'rational' and 'non-fanatic' opinion. Now this gets more rational - IR creates trend, IR's music may not be trendy now, ARR is trendy...
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.215.61) on: Sun Jul 6 15:03:43 EDT 2003
  
  suresh
  
  I dont know why u thought I have contempt over dandanaka songs!
  
  Otherwise I would not be listening to IR's songs and call "Kurivi Kodancha Koyyapazham" a nice rustic folk song!
  
  
  What I am saying is that ARR does not want to do a dandanakka song without a western touch. Even Karthik Raja has said that he likes to presnet "indian" musical concepts in a different "western stle"
  
  I think we need all kinds of composers.
  
  1. An IR who prsents soulful indian music and folk music in a very authentic style!
  
  2. An ARR who loves to ground his music on keyboards and chords no matter how simple the tune might be. nothing wrong in it, but u guys think that is wrong and I cant do anything abt that.
  
  3. A YSR who likes to bring majorly global musical themes into TFM which surely does not get exposed to much different kind of music.
  
  I am a big fan of IR. I love his plain melodies and I think when it comes to mere tunes IR composes the best!
  
  However I am not that IR veriyan kind of fan who likes to stick his head only into tamil, tamil folk, village based tunes. Although I love these forlsm of music I want an ARR and a YSR to give me something different!
  
  So let IR do his job and let ARR and YSR do their jobs.
  
  I will only be happy if the IR fans stop their condemnation of every single ARR album and try to push some unsellable and stupid points here.
  
  I dont force anyone to listen to ARR and appreciate like me.
  
  Atleast if you dont like stay away!
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.215.61) on: Sun Jul 6 15:05:39 EDT 2003
  
  To add to my mesaage I know IR has composed songs in all different styles and not just village or folk, however I like the different presentation styles adopted by ARR, KR and YSR.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.132.212) on: Sun Jul 6 15:22:12 EDT 2003
  
  Om why is that being very indian in musical style is a big criterais here??????
  being indian in musical style is to be truthful to the creative spirit within u.all artists are creators[remember the kannadasan verse "padaipathanaal nanum iraivan"]
  just think abt a situation if a painter sketches the preliminary lines then he takes a portion frm picasso and replicates in that,then he takes a portion frm salvador dali and replicated in that and so on and finally he comes up with an overall painting and says its his creation????? wont we laugh at him.
  same thing is happening to western style of music u come up with a tune then for the bgm u go on buy some loops and or softwares introduce them wherever u feel like check on the overall composition if it doesnt suit the tune get some other loops orchester again until u find a suitable loop add some more instruments then finally u come up with a overall composition : and this is wat ur creative genius is doing all along his career.
  hence ARR has been termed as copy cat by many even though he had done some work in creating the tune[some times he also copies the tune] and put some effort in orchestration
  our IR doesnt do this the whole song is his own creativity.no body else can claim even a small portion of his song.so we up hold indian style of creating music.
  I hope ppl dont come up with ridiculous criteria like "how many times has ARR worn Dhoti in functions?"
  when we are liberated from the pseudo freedom we r having then there will be a time we will ask this question till then........ we will be trying to create real patriotism in people.
  
  
• From: V (@ 160.83.32.14) on: Sun Jul 6 18:22:43 EDT 2003
  
  Hi ,
  
  To me, BOYZ is junk music. IR has produced some albums which are junk too. I dont say IR has produced only gems, infact there were great amount of junk numbers from mid 90s.
  
  I was surprised to see in some pages when people used superlatives for BOYZ. The worst bit is someone said the music is going to set a trend. I dont see anything there. There are couple of great albums by ARR which has showed ARR is constantly improving and his versatility, certainly not BoYZ (not neglecting boyz because of history, I would hardly listen to it, or recommend to anyone, its that good).
  
  I am little annoyed by the superlatives used for this album, just because its an ARR album.
  
  In saying IR creates trend and doesnt follow trend, I said IR is very proud, so he wont be changing his style of music (Good to have some individuality in TFM, rather than people like deva). I dont know ARR will follow the trend set by others, if he is replaced by someone, because his way of music is the most popular one now.
  
  In my opinion, ARR is a very good composer .. but I dont blindly accept anything from him and say its good. Same thing with IR. All I want to say is, if you want to hear only good things about ARR then dont call this a forum. A forum is where you give your opinion and others give theirs. If ARR or IR has produced a junk, its a right for every person in the forum to say its not good. I am a neutral guy who wants to participate. If you dont want guys like me, just start a forum with a topic:
  ARR's BOYZ (say only good things about ARR - this is for ARR fanatics alone) - I will not participate, because I am not one. if this is irrational, its ur opinion.
  
  I dont see any wrong with dandanaka, unless its used properly.
  
  V
  
  
• From: sc (@ 134.74.21.66) on: Mon Jul 7 16:21:06 EDT 2003
  
  Has Thangar already begun to shoot for "Thendral"? I like to know. Thanks. I'm also very eager about this movie and its music. I haven't seen Karthik in a good movie for a long time now so that his teaming with Thanger should prove to be very interesting.
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.97.244) on: Mon Jul 7 17:26:24 EDT 2003
  
  Thangar is still doing the script i think.
  
  I am sad IR is not doing this film.But if IR arrogantly told Thangar to mind his own work than any human being that can reason will be upset and choose not to work with the epitome of talent and arrogance.
  
  Anyway I am also happy VS is doing this!
  
  
• From: sc (@ 134.74.21.76) on: Mon Jul 7 19:48:26 EDT 2003
  
  I'm also happy Vidhysagar is doing "Thendral", V. A very underrated composer. Can't wait for "Thendral" to come out - the film and the music.
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.233.27) on: Mon Jul 7 22:36:26 EDT 2003
  
  Oh..Oh..Oh... it seems IR had a ego clash with Thangar Bachan too.... can anyone confirm? man, if this is true.. then he has big time attitude problem...
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 61.8.210.74) on: Tue Jul 8 01:22:03 EDT 2003
  
  Oh Oh Oh....u still haven't told us y ir's fans will never know arr is so great.
  and u still have not mentioned anything abt the horrific and rubbish bgm of Vandicholai Chinraasu.
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.176) on: Tue Jul 8 03:33:01 EDT 2003
  
  vandicholai chinrasu BGM? so wat? have you heard IR's BGM throughout the years... he cycles,recycles and he does crap with that.... he gives gud BGM only for top directors.... his BGM sucks in many low-budget movies...(pls. rajasaranam dunt give me a list of gr8 IR's BGM movies from 10000B.C to 2003A.D) and i told that IR fans can never appreciate ARR bcos "U GUYS CAN NEVER ACCEPT ANYONE ELSE AS GOOD EXCEPT IR, U R CONFINED TO ONLY HIS TYPE OF MUSIC AND U FAIL TO CAPTURE EVEN LIKABLE THINGS IN OTHERS, whereas we ARR fans enjoy both ARR and IR's songs...
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 61.8.210.74) on: Tue Jul 8 05:15:07 EDT 2003
  
  "vandicholai chinrasu BGM? so wat?"
  
  don't 'so wat' me boy. this whole discussion is abt substanciation and justification and etc. so don't 'so wat' me.
  i want u to disect that ridiculous bgm of arr's and then come back here and explain how come u say arr is great.
  
  

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