Hariharan?
Topic started by Arun (@ internet1.ford.com) on Sat Dec 20 10:31:42 EST 1997.
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- From: Arun (@ internet1.ford.com)
on: Sat Dec 20 10:39:59 EST 1997
What do you people think of Hariharan? I really like his voice even better than SPB's. More masculine IMO. No contest when it comes to talent! Of all the new singers these days he sounds the most promising. (excluding UnniK.)
I think Hariharan and Kamalhaasan (pottu veitha kaadhal thittam) are the only two male singers who can hit those high notes without hesitation. Comments?
- Arun.
- From: Gopal (@ 1cust167.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Sat Dec 20 12:20:24 EST 1997
I quote songs by SPB:
1. Mandram vandha and NilavE vaa from Mouna Raagam
2. Pattu esai pattu from Senthamizh Selvan
Do you think Hariharan can render the above songs like SPB? Hariharan and Unni fall under the same "sub-manly" voice category. No way near SPB.
SPB IS INCOMPARABLE.
Hari is a good singer,the very base of Hariharan being Gazal renditions, suggests us clearly that he has to mellow his voice and his voice cannot sound manly as expected!!
- From: Arun (@ internet1.ford.com)
on: Sat Dec 20 12:52:21 EST 1997
Gopal, You misunderstood me. By "No contest when it comes to talent!", I meant Hariharan was no match for SPB when it comes to singing ability and versatality. I didn't elaborate because I thought it was too obvious. My fault, sorry.
But I still believe Harharans voice sounds more masculine than SPB.
- Arun.
- From: gopal (@ 1cust97.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Sat Dec 20 19:37:59 EST 1997
Thats ok Arun. But still feel, Hari is not masculine in his voice.
- From: Madhan. (@ 202.41.117.3)
on: Sun Dec 21 12:25:19 EST 1997
Hariharan's voice and masculinity ? don't joke - most of Hariharan's songs lack depth ; in an effort to downplay the gamakas which Hariharan is prone to make because of his classical background, he sings from the mouth and not with his inner depth. How can anybody say that his voice is more masculine than SPB's.
listen to SPB's,
1. Yaar veettu roja poopooththadho _ from Idhaya KOil - MD is IR.
2.Sangeedha jaadimullai - from Kaadhal Oviyam.
IR is MD.
3. Shankaraa naadha shareeraa bharaa - from Shankaraabharanam in Telugu - IR is MD.
listen to these songs, see how masculine his voice is.
I can list many more songs, but the above will do for the time sake.
- From: Rajesh (@ pdxss902.jf.intel.com)
on: Sun Dec 21 17:22:12 EST 1997
Shankarabaranam MD is not IR. I think it is KVM
- From: Arun (@ internet1.ford.com)
on: Mon Dec 22 07:56:56 EST 1997
I did not intend to this thread to be a comparison between SPB and Hariharan. Please forget the comparison. Let's just talk about Hariharan alone. I think he has done a wonderful job in the following songs:
* Uyire Uyire (No matter what I was doing I have always found myself humming along when I listen to his charanam in that song.)
* Malagale Malargale
* Kadhalee Kadhalee
* vennilave vennilave
*...
Comments? Or additions?
- Arun.
- From: Bhaskar (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Mon Dec 22 09:38:49 EST 1997
Arun:
I like the following Hariharan's songs :)
Movie: Kaalam ellam kaadhal vazhga.
Music: Thenisai thendral Deva :)
Oru mani adithaal kanne un nyabagam
Telephone kuyile vendum un darisanam
Podhum kanne nee nadatthum nadagame
Toongumbodhum thoongavillai un nyabagame
Paadinaal andha padalil uyir nee adiyooo
Thedinaal vizhi eeramavadhu yenadiyooo
I forgot the other lines.
Chandiranai thottadhu yaar armstrongaa ?
In Kaadhalukku Mariyadhai, eventhough I liked IR's version of the song, Hariharan has also done a good Job.
Yennai Thaalaatta varuvaalo ?
Nenjil poo manjam tharuvaalo ?
Thanga thearattam varuvaalo ?
Yillai yeamattram tharuvaalo ?
Thaththalikkum maname thaththai varuvaala ?
Mottu ithal muththam ondru tharuvaala ?
Konjam poru kolusoli keettkiradhe :))
Another great song by Hariharan is from the movie Soorya Vamsam music by SAR ... Eventhough the voice seems to be technologically simple when compared to Chandiranai thottadhu yaar by ARR, it sounds great for the melody.
Rosaaappu chinna rosaaappu
Un perai sollum rosaaappu
Kaattril adum thaniyaaa
Yen paattil mattum thunaiyaaa
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Mon Dec 22 11:23:24 EST 1997
Arun:
IMO, Hariharn's is the most promising new voice even including Unnikrishnan's, of the recent newcomers. I like his voice a lot better than UK, Srini, Suresh Peters, Sahul, Krishnaraj, Yugendran, Karthikraja, et al. He can not be( and should not be ) compared to the levels of TMS, PBS, SPB, KJJ, et al. I seem to like all his songs both TFM & HFM and from his private album.
There is something distinctly unique about his voice( I don't know if I can call it the Masculine Nature ) that makes his songs( both fast tempo ones as well as the slow melodious ones ) sound nice.
I do feel that he has a long way to go but would dare to mention that he is well positioned for that. He definitely needs a lot of modulations, voice variations, etc., etc., I did feel that his voice cracked a bit at the high pitch of "Vennilavey, Vennilavey) of MK
Thanks to ARR for bringing him into TFM and even more glad that Hariharan started singing songs for IR( waiting to hear the song from KM and I just got the cassette today ).
Deva seems to be using him a lot more than the others( like Deva's Aasthaana Paadagar ), every Deva's movie has one or more songs by HH.
- From: Gopal (@ 1cust143.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Mon Dec 22 11:31:51 EST 1997
OK guys, let me talk about Hari's song (Ennai thaalaatta) in Kaadhalukku Mariyaadhai!! This is my presumption!!
Producer (of KM) :: Raaja saar, Hariharan thambi ippo nalla demandula irukkar, adhanaala, avarukku oru paattu koduthaa naalla irukkum!!
IR :: simply smiles and says! track pOttu koduthidarEn. Avarai paadi koduthuda sollunga!
Producer :: Adhu pOdhum saar!! Romba nanringa!!
Outcome :: SorathE illaama, aaspathiri bedula paduthukittE paadinamaadhiri paadiyirukkar Hari!
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Mon Dec 22 19:45:18 EST 1997
Gopal - Ithil veidikaiyei yennavendraal, anthe sorathE illaatha paadalthaan KM-lei best-u paadal! (Sorry, couldn't resist :-))))
- From: CP (@ 1cust38.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Mon Dec 22 21:36:38 EST 1997
NOV:
enna poruthavaraikkum IRudaiya "thalatta varuvalO" dhaan KMil best.. idhu eppadi irukku!!! (couldn't resist again.. :-))))
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Dec 22 21:56:01 EST 1997
Gopal:
enna saar? recent-aa ellaa posting-ilum dialogue
method vachchE ideas convey paNNureenga?
Edhaavadhu padaththukku vasanam ezhuthureengaLaa?
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-115.iap.bryant.webtv.net)
on: Mon Dec 22 23:34:55 EST 1997
NOV thalaivaa,
Inime ungalukku neengathaan musig poadanum (sorry, I too couldn't resist :))))))))))))))))))))))))
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net)
on: Tue Dec 23 00:20:44 EST 1997
NOV thalaivaa,
Sorry thalaivaa, neenga original songslam ketkamaattenganu yenakku theariyathu!
KM vaangina kaasukku, ippa marketla puthusaa, athaan thalaiva.. CUT & PASTE panna JEANS varuthaame atha vaangi irunthaalum NEW YEAR or PONGALukku uluththiyirukkalam. Antha JEANSa 100 thadavaikku meala thuvaikkama uluththina athanoada mathippe thaanithaane! Nammooru porulukku mavusu ennaikkume koraivuthaane! Once again sorry thalaiva kaasa kariyaakka vachchathukku!
(SORRY, still I couln't resist :))))))))))))))))
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Tue Dec 23 01:41:45 EST 1997
Rajan - I think you misunderstood me. Don't you agree with me that Aval thaalaatta varuvaaloa is the best song in KM? I just pointed out the irony. Maththappadi yaar manatheiyum punpaduththa yennakku yennam illei. :-(((
- From: Gopal (@ 1cust45.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Tue Dec 23 09:42:46 EST 1997
SK
Appadiyellam illai. Just for a change Aarurdas aayitEn!!
- From: RAJAN (@ proxy-168.iap.bryant.webtv.net)
on: Tue Dec 23 18:58:33 EST 1997
NOV thalaivaa,
Sorry thalaivaa, konjam unarchivasapattuteaan, sorry
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Wed Dec 24 03:41:15 EST 1997
Rajan - Parava illei. Please forget it. Seasons greetings for you :-))
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Wed Dec 31 02:39:07 EST 1997
Hariharan and Colonial Cousins did a concert in Malaysia yesterday and will be doing one more at KL Hilton tonight. Anyone who witnessed the show may wish to comment....
- From: Swathi (@ m61.is-1.net.au)
on: Tue Jan 6 21:29:17 EST 1998
Guys Guys Guys now now cool down ..
Nan enna sola varaen enral I think both SPB
& Hariharan have their own way of singing..
Hari is just a new singer he still has a lot more
way to go ...I mean in singing as you guys said he does have
a nice voice but he cant get closer to SPB's experience and thiramai .
I mean I am not puting him down he could acheive latter on,,but
right now he is no where closer to SPB or Yesudas.
- From: raghu (@ 202.54.31.92)
on: Sun May 17 07:42:15 EDT 1998
I fully agree with swathi. Hence let us put a stop at this stage and proceed to some other query. Ok.
Swathi finally achives the title of 'Woman of Query'
Bye to all guys
- From: P Sundram (@ 203.120.90.48)
on: Thu May 28 12:23:55 EDT 1998
Hi Arun and others
I have listened a lot to Hari's ghazals (please do listen to "Hariharan in Concert" if you guys can) and to songs like "Let me see the love" (Hamsathwani raga) in Colonial Cousins, and what I can say is that this man has a lot of talent that has yet to be uncovered in Tamil film songs. He may not be doing his best in Tamil songs considering that (a) many of the songs he's been assigned are crap (e.g., "Laila laila") and (b) time may be a constraint (he zips in and out of Madras from Bombay to do his recordings). But he definitely has a lot of potential. I had a chance to attend a recording of his in Bombay earlier this year. He was recording some ghazals for aging MD Naushad, and he was simply mesmerising. His rendition of "Mere dushman" in "Border" -- the song that has won him this year's National Award -- is superb, and the award well deserved.
P. Sundram
- From: Mohanan (@ brk-78-202.tm.net.my)
on: Fri Sep 4 01:36:17 EDT 1998
To me Hariharan and SPB are two different types of singers.SPB is definately more versatile and this could be due to the years of experience he has.Give Hari a few more years before anyone judges his true ability.
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