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WHICH MD'S SONGS ARE GOING TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME?

Topic started by VIJAY (@ 129.252.29.214) on Fri Jan 30 18:56:33 EST 1998.
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• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Fri Jan 30 19:00:44 EST 1998
  
  there have been several great MD's inthe past like KMV,VM,GR and in the present too we have many MD's like deva arr, ir etc.now which
  MD's songs are going to predominantly last over the next century.or which MD's songs have that
  freshness or melody that is going to make their numbers immortal?now every MD would have atleast a few songs thatare excellent,but who's
  going to have the max. no of songs?i'll write about this after i receive the initial responses.
  
  vijay
  
  
• From: S.Krishnan (@ m_33_66.pppmad.vsnl.net.in) on: Sat Jan 31 02:57:35 EST 1998
  
  Vijay,
  I feel both MSV and IR will stand the test
  of time. I fell ARR is just a passing phenomenon !
  (ARR Fans Mannithuvidungal !) Who knows ! Probably
  mid 21st century teenagers may go gaga over IR
  songs and may even have a cult built around him.
  
  
• From: SATHIYAVAGEESWARAN (@ client-151-200-125-83.bellatlantic.net) on: Sat Jan 31 09:26:20 EST 1998
  
  I think Vijay means the songs that are going to be given in future. If it were that songs composed already, then there is no competition for IR.
  
  Assuming that the following will be in competition
  
  IR
  ARR
  DEVA
  SIRPI
  KARTHIK
  YUVAN
  
  No doubt, Deva will be composing the Max no. of films per year, Max no. of Junks per year, Max no. of Xeroxes per year. At his best, however he may be ignored of copying, he can give around 5 to 10 hit songs an year.
  
  If ARR comes out of his cream circle ( Mani, Shankar, Kunjumon, Other Mega Budget Producers) and produces good songs without relying on the budget of the film and the quality of directors and artists, he will be a contender. I have a doubt, some of ARR fans clarify. Has ARR given a hit for a film which is neither a big budget film nor a film occupied by cream directors/Artists? I will list his hits. A * will indicate a big budget film.
  
  ROJA - MANIRATHNAM / KB *
  GENTLEMAN - KUNJUMON *
  THIRUDA THIRUDA - MANIRATHNAM *
  ANJALI - BALACHANDAR
  KAADHALAN - SHANKAR, KUNJUMON *
  KILAKKU SEEMAIYILE- BARATHIRAJA
  INDHIYAN - SHANKAR, KAMAL *
  MUTHU - RAJINI *
  KARUTHTHAMMA - BARATHIRAJA
  MAY MAADHAM (1 SONG) - G.V.PRODUCTIONS
  KAADHAL DESAM - KUNJUMON * *
  RATCHGAN(1 SONG) - KUNJUMON
  
  Also songs in these films failed in spite of being big budget ones or hi tech people.
  
  LOVE BIRDS - *
  MR. ROMIYO - *
  IRUVAR - MANIRATHNAM -( FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER , SONGS FAILED)
  RATCHAGAN - KUNJUMON
  ( EX. 1 SONG)
  PAVITHRA - G.V.PRODUCTIONS
  
  If ARR still depends on such things, in future when there comes a decline to such people, it will affect his future.
  Sirpi can be ruled out as his era ended almost with "Ullaththai Alliththa". When a MD feels that this is my best movie in the life, there ends his confidence. So is the case of Sirpi.
  Whether Karthik or Yuvan will click? Time is the adjudicator. I am not able to project.
  I do not want to write ILAYARAJA off. In Vikatan he recently gave an interview saying, I am going to give more than what I gave so far. I believe him. Also immediately after 2 months, Kaadalukku Mariathai came and suppressed all films in 1997. But still Time is the jury.
  
  
  SATHYA
  
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Sat Jan 31 15:28:19 EST 1998
  
  thanx to krishnan and sathya for posting.i too echo almost the same opinions.i feel some numbers from GR ,KMV and MSV like 'unnai kaanatha kannum kannalla','chithiram pesuthudi' and 'senthamizh thenmozhiyaal' are definitely going to be liked by even the next generation.but perhaps the max. no would go to IR.from the initial opinion which i draw of KR and yuvan,i do not think that their numbers would even be remembered for a few years.but i hope optimistically that at present they are just dancing to the tune of the producers and once they gain a strong foothold they are going to launch themselves in full force and bring out their best.i think the same should happen to vidyasaagar.i do not want to talk about the rest.
  
  another important factor is that most of us are able to appreciate olden day songs better since we associate nostalgic feelings with that song.that would definitely be missing in the next century.our kids might be listening to IR's music without having any knowledge about him ,without having any nostalgia just like any other MD and if they still like his music irrespective of who is reigning the music world at that time,then perhaps that would be a great achievment.
  
  
• From: karthik (@ 207.78.88.252) on: Sun Feb 1 17:21:49 EST 1998
  
  What an excuse for karthik raja!!I find this amusing among IR fans that they may bicker about ARR's songs as to english kalappadams and cheap western beats but nobody says a word about karthik raja. People should hear ullasam and naam iruvar namakku iruvar before complaining about ARR.
  
  
• From: SATHIYAVAGEESWARAN (@ client-151-200-126-199.bellatlantic.net) on: Sun Feb 1 18:52:44 EST 1998
  
  Karthik, do not get tentioned. As far as the current gen musicians are concerned ARR is the best. Also honestly I do not have any idea about Karthik Raja's potential. Also I do not have the practice of listening western composings. I know neither ARR's liftings nor Karthik's liftings or even IR's liftings(If any). As an IR fan I always defend Raja and not Raja's sons. Nor my idea is that since my fav. is IR, his sons have to suppress ARR. I have no idea about other IR fans.
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ pdxss902.jf.intel.com) on: Sun Feb 1 20:51:28 EST 1998
  
  I share Sathiyas view. I am not in favor of KR or YSR just because they are IRs sons. There have been lot of postings criticising KR and YSR. No body supports them as they support IR. They are just coming up. So Karthik, if you say that u have
  never seen a word against KR then you must read all the postings
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Sun Feb 1 21:02:51 EST 1998
  
  karthik,
  i think u have missed my posting in which i hae a written a few lines about KR.what i have said is that KR's initial films are not good enough and i hope that they(music in films) would become better once KR gets a strong foothold in the industry.as for using english words in songs none of the present day's MD's are an exception to this .even IR has oh baby in KM.
  but the trendsetter was ARR.
  
  vijay
  
  
• From: sathay (@ client-151-200-125-135.bellatlantic.net) on: Wed Feb 11 09:04:38 EST 1998
  
  stay
  
  
• From: kumar (@ 148.5.30.79) on: Fri Feb 20 00:45:57 EST 1998
  
  Just watch the program colgate "sabthaswarangal"
  a successful show that compleated a year in SunTV.
  Its only for resonably talented singers and
  also needs knowledge in music for later rounds.
  you can see about 70% of the songs that
  are sung by them is by illayaraja. mostly from
  80's. you see see how his songs stands the time...
  
  But in other shows where common people are
  asked about thier fav MD, the answer comes
  a arr mostly.. thats because thats the only md
  the know!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Fri Feb 20 02:13:03 EST 1998
  
  kumar,
  i agree with u completely.today's MD's songs lack the staying power.in their attempt to sound more like ARR they have also started copying from western tunes and try to mix it with the traditional south indian music and it results in
  'half boiled' songs most of the time.vidyasaagar has impressed me with a couple of songs. 'vaa saki' has a beautiful blend of western and carnatic music and has a brought a certain amount of freshness with it.this song is the only one which i would put on par with KM songs or yaathramozhi songs of IR.but vidyasaagar has to be consistent and has to choose his films carefully in order to be successful.
  
  vijay
  
  
• From: k.r.ravi (@ m_33_66.pppmad.vsnl.net.in) on: Fri Feb 20 12:57:51 EST 1998
  
  Well, if people like Bach, beethoven etc stood the test of time then IR will stand too. His compositions are still giving nightmares for its sophistication and complexity, probably the future generation ,may be more sensitive and start hearing IR's song for its beautiful orchestration and perfection.Any way IR was way ahead of time.
  
  
• From: SATISH.P (@ ) on: Wed Aug 8 07:33:12 EDT 2001
  
  HERE I WILL SHARE A FEW WORDS ABOUT VIDYASAGAR.THOUGH HE COPIED FEW SONGS,NOW HE IS PERFECTLY ALRIGHT.HIS MUSIC IN VEDHAM,POOVELLAM UN VASAM AND EVEN DHILL ALSO VERY EXCELLENT.IT'S THE TIME FOR HIM TO CHOOSE SO MANY GOOD FILMS TO TACKLE MD'S LIKE DEVA,RAJKUMAR ETC.HIS WAY OF MUSIC IMPRESSED ME VERY MUCH.HOPE HE IS IN THE SUCCESS PATH FOR THE COMING YEARS.HIS DHAVASI AND ALLI THANTHA VANAM ALSO HOPEFUL.AND IF HE MAINTAINS THIS TALENT ,AND,WITHOUT COPY ,NO DOUBT,HE WILL BE THE FAVOURITE MD'S OF TAMIL PEOPLES OTHER THAN IR AND ARR IN THE FORTHCOMING YEARS.ANYWAY ,GOD HAVE TO HELP HIM TO CHOOSE GOOD FILMS IN TAMIL FROM THIS 2001.IT'S THE GREAT TIME TO PROVE HIS EXTREME TALENT.....
  
  
• From: DAS (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Wed Aug 8 08:20:57 EDT 2001
  
  IR, KVM,MSV songs sung by SPB will last 4 ever
  
  
• From: unmaivilambi (@ 63.75.49.120) on: Wed Aug 8 11:06:04 EDT 2001
  
  Except for Sangamam I can't think of any ARR's non big budget/director film. He needs to work with directors like seran,Vikraman,agathiyan etc to prove that he can do any kind of music. Till then he has to be contented with being the best among the current crop. He has a long way to go before he has a shot at the bigger league where IR is the undisputed king(Please , I am not a Hardcore IR fan though I adore his music).
  
  
• From: saran (@ w210.z064220209.phx-az.dsl.cnc.net) on: Thu Aug 9 15:43:05 EDT 2001
  
  ILAIYARAAJA... Who else??
  
  
• From: Richard Nelson (@ ) on: Thu Mar 7 10:01:01 EST 2002
  
  My uncle mercury Daniels is in the group he died can the group please send me some records or cd's of they record's please.I'm in a group home called abbott house.It's in Irvington NY 100north broadway the number is [914]591-7300.My name is Richard nelson.My Grandfarther name is charles Daniels. The area code where I'm at is 10533
  
  
• From: Richard (@ 206.28.203.174) on: Thu Mar 7 10:02:06 EST 2002
  
  Thank you!!!
  
  

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