Topic started by outsider (@ 203.215.177.99) on Tue Aug 20 09:13:09 EDT 2002.
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- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Tue Aug 20 10:54:01 EDT 2002
I don't know if SPB was popular in Mallu, like he was in Tamil/telegu/Kanda/Hindi, as far as I knew, malayaalam was ruled by KJY & P.jeyachandran.
- From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76)
on: Wed Aug 21 05:48:20 EDT 2002
Don't worry man.
The topic's just started.
In fact you have developed
the habit of seeing the preliminary
information right up there, on the top,
along with the heading of the topic.
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Wed Aug 21 06:10:52 EDT 2002
My knowledge in MFM is very limited, But still I remember one song by SPB (and M. G. Sreekumar Duet) from the movie Yathramozhi (MD : IR) ...
SPB did a good job in that song - I think he sang for Sivaji Ganesan !
NagaS
- From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76)
on: Wed Aug 21 06:40:21 EDT 2002
SP Baala Subraamanyam in Malyaalam!
A rare occurrence indeed. I have
listened no more than 10 odd songs by
him in Malayaali, despite the fact that
in Kannada, Telugoo and Taamil collectively
I have heard no less than 20-25 thousand songs
involving his voice.
A surprising aspect is that of about 10 or so
songs, at least 6 or 7 were what I personally
regard as songs of high quality and merit.
This average of 60-70 percent of real quality
songs is extremely high even by SPBS standards.
Almost all those songs that I heard belonged to
early and mid 1980's.
According to my estimations total SPBS songs in Malayaalam are about 100.
Why did SP Subraamanyam not make incursion into
Kerala? May be he wanted to leave Malayaalam
songs entirely to his "Daas Anna". Or may be that
complete domination in 3 languages was enough for
him.
- From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76)
on: Wed Aug 21 06:58:20 EDT 2002
The Taamilians in this forum often label the malyaalis as "mallu".
Is it a term of affection, or what?
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Wed Aug 21 07:38:07 EDT 2002
Outsider:
>>May be he wanted to leave Malayaalam
songs entirely to his "Daas Anna". <<
could be right, or perhaps SPB's malyala accent would have been a problem!
- From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76)
on: Wed Aug 21 08:12:34 EDT 2002
Among those handful of songs, one was
a duet -- a rare duet -- Yassoo Daas and
Baala Subraamanyam. In sheer quality this
song shines not as a star, but as a sun.
Nowhere else I heard such an exqusite duet,
neither such a healthy competition for
superb quality on the part of two vocalists,
as in this all-male duet.
I don't remember the wording of this song.
But this might be the only Malyaalam song
having Subraamaniam and Yassu Daas in tandem.
- From: siva (@ 63.170.144.101)
on: Wed Aug 21 08:45:21 EDT 2002
There is one great SPB-KJY song in Tamil (Apart from Dhalabadhi song). It goes "En Kaadali Yaar sollva isai ennum pen allavaa". SPB sings for Kamal and KJY sings for Sivakumar. Movie "Thangaththil Vairam"
- From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76)
on: Wed Aug 21 09:12:10 EDT 2002
No Siva,
I am talking about Malayaalam all-male
duet.
The Taamil one "Yen Kaadali..." is a good one
but not upto that standard.
Some Malyaali surfer may come up with the
wording of that song.
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Wed Aug 21 10:21:45 EDT 2002
Siva;
Thanks 4 the details, will watch the moview for the sake of the song. haha
there are couple of more SPB+KJY combo in Tamil
1) Irandu kaighal naanghaanaal - Thiri soolam (I Think)
2) Aruvi kooda jathi illamal - a karthik film (early 90's)
Outsider;
do u know any websites, where I can listen to Mallu songs.
thanks
- From: outsider (@ 203.215.177.99)
on: Wed Aug 21 10:55:19 EDT 2002
Sorry
Raghu, I don't know any huge Malyaalam songs
website.(only a minor one).
Anyway, I hope "Mallu" friends will come to
rescue.
- From: outsider (@ 203.215.177.99)
on: Wed Aug 21 10:55:33 EDT 2002
Sorry
Raghu, I don't know any huge Malyaalam songs
website.(only a minor one).
Anyway, I hope "Mallu" friends will come to
rescue.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250)
on: Wed Aug 21 11:02:23 EDT 2002
perhaps SPB's malyala accent would have been a problem!
This is precisely the reason I hear from some of my Mallu friends. They say, "his malayalam doesn't flow smoothly (and thus loses nativity) and often the listener finds the awkwardness in the rendition", I am not sure how universal this feeling is among the mallus though.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250)
on: Wed Aug 21 11:03:34 EDT 2002
Raghu
If you are interested musicindiaonline.com and malayalavedhi.com have a good collection of songs.
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Wed Aug 21 11:19:45 EDT 2002
Kaumudi;
Thanks for the link, dude. :)
Outsider;
I suggest u try the above link also.
- From: Outsider (@ 203.215.177.99)
on: Thu Aug 22 07:14:26 EDT 2002
I have already tried the link in the past.
- From: outsider (@ 203.215.177.99)
on: Thu Aug 22 07:15:44 EDT 2002
Kaumudi,
Welcome to this topic.
- From: outsider (@ 203.215.177.98)
on: Thu Aug 22 07:21:42 EDT 2002
Naaga S., Can you tell whether the MG SriKumaaran
and SPBS duet is available on the internet?
- From: outsider (@ 203.215.177.98)
on: Thu Aug 22 07:27:02 EDT 2002
Raghuvaran, the third posting in this "thread" is the one which you are accostomed to see under the
heading of the topic. Bear this as a change.
- From: raycas (@ 80.110.12.153)
on: Thu Aug 22 13:15:52 EDT 2002
hi, here is a malayalee...
but sorry, no idea the kjy-spb duet u are talking about...more info (movie? actor? director? etc) please...
well spb in malayalam...i've only heard a few songs of him in malayalam, recently in mammooty's 'phantom'....but as kaumadi already said, his accent makes his success in malayalam impossible. when i hear him singing in malayalam i suddenly understand tamilians' (especially nagas', naaz' etc.) 'hatred' on non-tamilians with terrible accent singing in tamil. till months ago i didn't know swarnalatha was a malayalee, cause i can even hear out her 'bad' accent, and it only fits to a limited number of songs. same to spb...for example a song of his in malayalam which i liked very much was a fun-song where he sung in duet with m.g.sreekumar, 1990 in mohanlal's 'kilukam'. the song is 'ooty patanam'. and also the song nagas already mentioned 'kakala kannamma' in yathramozhi. beautiful song, had learnt it by heart in those days....kakala kannamma kanmizhichi paramma kannimanam thonitaane...etc. but fact is also that in those songs spb actually was singing in tamil, for malayalam film.
malayalam mp3s....i've around 600 of them...that kakala kannamma number i only have on cassette..sorry...where i got them from? in those old days from napster, then from audiogalaxy (both dead now - what a pity)...well, now i'm not getting anything...
so if anyone is interested in malayalam mp3s, if i have the ones u need, i can send them to u...
outsider,
"The Taamilians in this forum often label the malyaalis as "mallu".
Is it a term of affection, or what?"
i think we malayalees are called 'mallus' everywhere outside kerala, here in vienna and i think everywhere...even if we talk about ourself we (me actually not) use the term 'mallu'. just an abbreviation...a friendly abbreviation...
raycas
- From: outsider (@ 195.213.229.12)
on: Sat Aug 24 07:30:19 EDT 2002
thanks, Raycas, for the explanation of "Mallu".
- From: outsider (@ 195.213.229.12)
on: Sat Aug 24 07:31:36 EDT 2002
thanks, Raycas, for the explanation of "Mallu".
- From: outsider (@ 195.213.229.12)
on: Sat Aug 24 07:33:19 EDT 2002
thanks, Raycas, for the explanation of "Mallu".
- From: Outsider (@ 195.213.229.12)
on: Sat Aug 24 07:35:44 EDT 2002
again, the server is sticky.
- From: S (@ 128.107.253.40)
on: Sat Aug 24 14:52:19 EDT 2002
raycas,
Do you have the pon veyililE from yatramozhi in mp3 ? If so pls send it to me.
- From: raycas (@ 80.110.12.153)
on: Sun Aug 25 14:10:34 EDT 2002
S,
sorry, the only song i have from yaathramozhi in mp3 is 'thaimavin thanalil' (m.g.sreekumar & chithra)
raycas
- From: Rahul (@ 195.92.67.70)
on: Mon Aug 26 13:33:02 EDT 2002
never heard any mallu song by Balu sir :(
- From: raji (@ 203.166.96.235)
on: Sun Sep 1 20:39:51 EDT 2002
Something related to this thread
http://www.spbala.com/expressjan22.asp
http://www.spbala.com/Awards.asp
I think 2 of the awards were given for Malayal movies.
Raji
- From: Lol (@ 195.92.67.69)
on: Mon Sep 2 10:05:59 EDT 2002
Raji;
I think these two awards are mallu awards.
'Swaralaya-Kairali-Yesudas' award in 2002.
Sangeeta Ganga award in 2001.
- From: @ (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Tue Sep 3 00:01:32 EDT 2002
Sangeeta Ganga Award is from Karnataka,this time SJ got that award.
- From: Rajesh Raj (@ 195.229.179.29)
on: Sat Sep 7 05:54:22 EDT 2002
The Dasettan-Balu Sir duet starts Swarna Meeninte Chelulla Pennane....It is a wonderful song. The most important fact is it has Jayachandran also singing along with the two maestros.
- From: raycas (@ 80.110.12.153)
on: Sat Sep 7 10:13:20 EDT 2002
rajesh raj,
from which movie is that song? and most important, is it available on the net?
raycas
- From: outsider (@ )
on: Thu Sep 19 00:02:49 EDT 2002
So, I don't think that particular Malayaalam song has been identified and spotted so far.
- From: outsider (@ )
on: Wed Oct 2 01:01:20 EDT 2002
Raycus and S:
What are your comments about the accent and even pronunciation of S Jaanaki and P Susheela in Malayaalam?
S Jaanaki dominated Malyaalam from about 1978 to 88.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.234)
on: Wed Oct 2 02:42:59 EDT 2002
Outsider- SJ has won the Kerala State Government Award for the Best Female Playback Singer 12 times- that speaks volumes of her works in Malayalam.
Reg. SPB's songs in Malayalam, today morning as I was driving to work, I heard a melodious Malayalam song on the radio, which sounds very much like SPB- it goes 'Paal nilavinil--'. Can anyone tell me the film, MD etc?
- From: Harish (@ 203.124.242.127)
on: Wed Oct 2 04:59:52 EDT 2002
SPB's pronounciaton in malayalam is pathetic.While Janaki sings like a MAlayali, P Susheels leaves a lot to be desired.
Though SPB has sung songs under IR,SP Venkatesh,Ravindran,Johnson, one of the better songs of his are
Nenjil Kanjabanam - Ganmdharvam _SP venkatesh
Paal nilaavile - Butterflies - Ravindran
both solos & Mohan lal starrers . Like what is mentioned in the thread , Kaakaala Kannamma (IR) is a good song but SPB is largely singing in Tamil in this song.
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Wed Oct 2 05:17:27 EDT 2002
Harish;
>>SPB's pronounciaton in malayalam is pathetic<<
I thought so as well, does Ravindran still compose now, he is a very good MD!
- From: Harish (@ 203.124.242.47)
on: Wed Oct 2 12:52:22 EDT 2002
Raghu,
Ravindran composes for only about a film a year nowadays..
The latest Ravindran song is for "Nandanam" which is presently running has got mild classical melodies.
The last one from him before that was " Aaram Thampuran" also with some light classical melodies.
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Thu Oct 3 04:28:20 EDT 2002
Harish;
Are the songs u mentioned in malayalam?
- From: Harish (@ 203.124.242.73)
on: Thu Oct 3 15:15:57 EDT 2002
Raghu.
yeah, these songs are in Malayalam.
- From: Old Malayalam Film Songs Fan (@ 152.163.189.230)
on: Thu Oct 3 19:38:24 EDT 2002
pls excuse this request digression in the TFM forum:
raycas, do you know if you can get these songs somehow pls: i will compensate you.
1. chirichum kondu ekanayi odi vanna sararkaalathinde muullappoove (kjy and madhuri, a song very melodious - mid 70s, md either MSV or MKA)
2. Punchirichaal Poonnilavu uthikkum (KJY MD: MKArjunan)
Appreciate response to this SOS (singing old song)
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