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Topic started by sk (@ 137.132.3.8) on Fri Feb 16 07:04:45 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

S. Janaki's contribution to TFM is tremendous! In this thread let us
trace her old songs.. in the first 20 years.. from the time of her
entry in late 1957 till 1977. S. Janaki must have sung only about 125
songs for TFM in this period. I have compiled in real audio, a selection
of these songs. Listening to the songs, one feels that TFM would have
been much richer if S. Janaki's voice had been utilized for many more
songs during this period.

Responses:

From: sk (@ 137.132.3.8) on: Fri Feb 16 07:05:34 EST 2001

Here is the link to my real audio collection:

http://guppy.mpe.nus.edu.sg/~mpessk/sjanaki.shtml
From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Fri Feb 16 08:31:02 EST 2001

That is a great collection Sk. This is going to be a SJ weekend:)
From: M (@ 144.49.154.163) on: Fri Feb 16 09:05:01 EST 2001

sk:
isnt's that vayasu ponnu is by Saavithiri?
anyway, EMI have released a collection of SJ songs (oldies).
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.8) on: Fri Feb 16 21:24:42 EST 2001

Ramki:

Glad you'll enjoy the songs. Rameshb, who used to
visit this forum a lot, was the one who kept telling
me to compile this collection. I think he is in
India now.

The emotions conveyed by SJ in songs such as
unnidaththil ennaik koduththEn, mAdhA un kOyilil
and ippadiyOr thAlAttu pAdavA are simply
wonderful.

Mano:

I think you are right about the vayasu poNNu song.
I'll remove it from the list.
From: Meerakrishna (@ 205.227.43.14) on: Fri Feb 16 21:25:50 EST 2001

sk,thanks for the beautiful link.I love janaki's voice.Thanks again.All the best.

regards
Meera
From: kk (@ 207.0.105.161) on: Fri Feb 16 23:08:16 EST 2001

Is the pseum deivam song sung by sj? Sounds like LR Eswari to me. Also, the kanthan karunai song is not attributed to SJ in my HMV cassette - it ids 2 unknown singers.

BTW, there are other rare SJ songs pre-77. There are an amazing couple songs in arutperum_jothi (never released so far as I can tell - but columbiafilm.com has the vcd) picturized on a young raamalinga swamigaL. Very sweet.
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.8) on: Fri Feb 16 23:45:04 EST 2001

kk:

Regarding those 2 songs.. see vAmanan's article:
http://guppy.mpe.nus.edu.sg/~mpessk/sj/sj6.html

Is it possible for you to encode those songs of
arutperum jOthi?
I have never heard them. :-(
From: Sugrutha (@ 65.11.240.45) on: Sat Feb 17 14:02:05 EST 2001

Lovely collection. I am book-marking the page.
From: kk (@ 207.0.105.136) on: Sat Feb 17 22:14:51 EST 2001

sk: I've figured out how to do encoding and would be happy to do so. However, what do I do once I have the wav/mp3 file? Do I send this to you by email? I don't know how this gets to a site like swara.com. Feel free to reply by email if that's more convenient.
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.5) on: Sat Feb 17 22:27:57 EST 2001

kk:

Wonderful! Once you encode, just send it to me by email. I will add them to the sj page. My email id
is: mpessk@guppy.mpe.nus.edu.sg

mp3 format is preferred since it will occupy much
smaller space than wav.

Thanks.
From: Ramki (@ 64.244.43.8) on: Sun Feb 18 16:04:52 EST 2001

kandhan karunai song is sung by three singers
Sj,sulamangalam and Renuka. Renuka is Anuradha Shrriams mother.

SK In my opinion the best song among the 66 is 'ninaithaal podhum paaduven'. Romba highle paadi kalakkirkaanga.
From: karthi (@ 63.21.183.251) on: Sun Feb 18 18:11:00 EST 2001

sk,

"ninaithaal pOdhum" is toooo fast! And that's why it also sounds "super" high pitched! Ofcourse, it's a very high pitched song no doubt!

Unga intro-la enakku innonnu puriyala sk:

"TFM would have been much richer if S. Janaki's voice had been utilized for many more songs during this period".

Do you mean that tfm must have produced even more no. of songs? Or that some/many of the songs sung by other singers could have been given to SJ? If it's the latter then the only singer that comes to my mind is PS and I sincerely think that SJ could not have sung any of PS' songs better. Nor do I think that PS (or yester years)has ever made us think that "she could have sung this song even better" about any of her songs!

(romba naaL aachu sk yaaraiyum vambukku izhuthu adhaan! Take care.)
From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Mon Feb 19 08:42:39 EST 2001

SK forgot to add this:

In avargaL 'ganaiyile neer perugi' is a seperate song. Indha song mudinjadhum thaan Anu will meet Bharani . 'ippadi oru thalattu' will come later. Do you know who played the flute in these songs??It is so good.

In 'avaLukkendror manam' there is another song by SJ for Bharathi. It is a kind of devotional song.

Do you have that song with you?
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.8) on: Wed Feb 21 23:06:51 EST 2001

Ramki & Karthi:

I am sorry for the delayed replies. I was very busy the last few days.

Ramki:

As Karthi says ninaiththAl pOdhum pAduvEn's
recording that I have is a bit speedy and noisy too!
It is a great song though. SJ has done full justice to it.
I know the avaLukkendru Or manam song, but I don't
have it.

Karthi:

indha vambu pEchchu avasiyamA?:-))
I was listening to all
the SJ songs I had collected. Right from malarOdu
viLaiyAdum and thennangkeetru oonjalilE
to mAdhA un kOyilil most of the songs
(especially the solos) impressed me very very much.
SJ is definitely a very expressive singer with a
special attractive voice tone. This is in absolute
terms. (Let us not make comparisons with PS
or anyone please.) Then when I started making a
list of all her songs in the first 20 years, it
didn't even reach 100. My estimate of 125 was on
the high side. This is only about 5 songs per year for
the great singer! That looked too small to me and
hence I made that comment. I did not have any other
thing in mind.

KK has sent me some songs which I will be making
available soon on my page. For now, listen to this
beautiful song..
http://guppy.mpe.nus.edu.sg/~mpessk/sj/varuvaan.mp3
Sivaji & Co had the bad musical sense not to include this
song in the movie (ponnoonjal). Note the shrillness
when SJ sings pon muththu mEni peNNendru solla.
Isn't it lovely?
From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Thu Feb 22 16:41:39 EST 2001

SK thanks for the link.Couldnt believe this is a 70s song. Sounds like 80s(dont ask me to explain the difference:)) Good work by MSV and SJ
From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Thu Feb 22 17:45:21 EST 2001

sk, for whom was this song picturised? sk bayangaramaa konjaraanga:)
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.8) on: Thu Feb 22 18:34:54 EST 2001

bb:

Usha Nandhini was the heroine in ponnoonjal.
From: Siva (@ 203.197.134.244) on: Thu Feb 22 23:03:12 EST 2001

Paavayin mugathai from Sivaji starrer Paasa malar is my favourite. The same movie had Thookum un kangalai thazhuvattume is a beautiful lullaby number.
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.8) on: Fri Feb 23 00:42:38 EST 2001

Siva:

Paavayin mugathai .. you mean pAttondru kEttEn?
That is not SJ. Also thuukam un is in Alaya maNi.
From: Think to get more songs (@ 161.142.78.83) on: Sat Feb 24 12:31:29 EST 2001

Ilam kannan yennai theda vanthan - Kubera Teevu
Paadatha paatellam - Veerathirumagan
Inba ellai kaanum velai mayakkum malai..
Anbu Vanthathu, Devanin Kovil paravai ithu - Server Sundaram
Angge varuvathu yaroo athu vasanthattu thero ...

a song from Patchaivilakku, Naanum Oru Penn,

and many more , it is just that over the time only the most common songs comes into mind. There are many beautiful songs are left unnoticed during those days.
From: Lets get more songs (@ 161.142.78.83) on: Sat Feb 24 12:31:54 EST 2001

Ilam kannan yennai theda vanthan - Kubera Teevu
Paadatha paatellam - Veerathirumagan
Inba ellai kaanum velai mayakkum malai..
Anbu Vanthathu, Devanin Kovil paravai ithu - Server Sundaram
Angge varuvathu yaroo athu vasanthattu thero ...

a song from Patchaivilakku, Naanum Oru Penn,

and many more , it is just that over the time only the most common songs comes into mind. There are many beautiful songs are left unnoticed during those days.
From: bb (@ 65.5.99.73) on: Sat Feb 24 13:53:20 EST 2001

listened to all the songs in this collection. my fav is "maadhaa un kOyilil maNi deepam ERRinEn". SK, can u tell us more about the situation of this song?
From: Keechu Kuralal (@ 203.199.231.138) on: Sat Feb 24 13:57:10 EST 2001

IN the film Kalyana Orvalam there is a duet Koondhlile Nei Thadavi by KJY and SJ...Good Song..
In Punnagai...AAnaiyittene...Nerungadhe....SJ..solo
From: kik (@ 207.0.105.211) on: Sat Feb 24 22:53:09 EST 2001

Does anyone have veenai meettum kaigaLE (maalai sooda vaa) and maniosaiyum kaivaLaiosaiyum aanandha raagam paada naan kEtkiREn?

There are a couple sj songs in pandhapaasam (1962, VR) - a tms duet which is nice and a ps-sj duet where sj's voice sounds too thin. Don't know if this is a sound defect?

I located aadi varum aadakap poRpaavaiyadi nee which someone had asked about a while back - not very good lyricswise and the sound quality isn't great either.
From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Fri Mar 2 10:36:47 EST 2001

SK thanks for the recent updates.
Arutperum jyothi songs are excellent and also my fav 'en annai seidha paavam' :)
From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Fri Mar 2 10:46:08 EST 2001

uravinaaram paravaigaLai nee vaLarthaiye
adhil oru paravai naanumendre ninaithirundhene
shiriya koondu enakku mattum thirakkavillaiye
adhu thirandha podhu en siragu parakkavillaiye

wow-a rare gem
From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Fri Mar 2 13:52:15 EST 2001

sk 'varave varavaadha'(deivabalam) is definitely not SJ. I think its JR
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.5) on: Fri Mar 2 18:36:55 EST 2001

Ramki:

I too have that doubt about 'varavE varAdhA'.
Mano took it from a VCD having SJ songs. So I am
not sure!
From: eden (@ 210.214.5.238) on: Sat Mar 3 04:43:48 EST 2001

sk!
Does your "125" include `nAn AdinAl, oru vagai bOthaiyil palavagai manidharum koodavE AduvAr' from `manippayal' (Music MSV)...a nice song...
From: sk (@ 137.132.3.5) on: Sat Mar 3 08:25:09 EST 2001

eden:

Actually, I don't know that song. Perhaps I have
heard it, but don't remember. :-(

Another excellent SJ song that I haven't heard for
many years is: ommaip peNNai pEsach chonna uRavO
from 'alaigaL'.
From: RR (@ 192.122.134.138) on: Sat Mar 3 23:41:28 EST 2001

Ramki,SK: If you notice carefully, there are two singers in 'varave varaathaa'. The other singer could be SJ.
From: xyz (@ ) on: Wed Jun 13 01:43:44 EDT 2001

Is it true that S Janaki sang only 125 songs for TFM in 20 years. What a pity!!!!!!!!!!

But she was the queen of our Kannada film music. She also excelled in the Malayalam,Telugu and Oriya film industry I think.
From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Wed Jun 13 05:39:29 EDT 2001

xyz,
She was popular in Malayalam. I don't know about Oriya. In Kannada she was popular from 70s. Both SJ and VJ were very popular during 70s and 80s. In 90s, Kannada singers started dominating the KFM. Before 70s KFM was dominated by popular female singers of TFM. L.R.Eswari was also very popular upto early 80s. In TeluguFM, PSuseela was dominating even in 80s. Later 70s and 80s have good contribution of SJ and VJ. Then Chitra and swarnalatha entered one by one. We know the present status very well. SJ was the queen in MalayalamFM.
From: guest (@ 202.144.44.234) on: Wed Jun 13 09:19:05 EDT 2001

PS was dominating in TeluguFM till early
90s. I remember a film PremaKhaidi in Telugu (made in Hindi too - Karisma Kapoor's debut film) where all but one songs are sung by PS/SPB. I think, PS is unique in her achievement. I know
from my friends PS was popular in Kannada too till
70s. SJ was more singing disco numbers and of course very good songs in IR's/KVM's music in 1970s/1980s.
From: Anjali (@ ) on: Wed Sep 15 22:00:47 EDT 2004

All JanakiAmma fans are cordially invited to join JanakiAmma's (unofficial) fan-group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SJanaki

Any questions about the group? I'll be glad to answer.

Warm regards,

Anjali.

anjali@sjanaki.com

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