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Can anyone be a Ilaiyaraja? I mean, what?!

Topic started by Nithin Sreedevan (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on Fri Apr 24 17:59:20 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Is it possible that given the right opportunities (!?!) that anyone can become a Ilaiyaraja or a Ramanujam (never had any opportunities in life) or an Amitabh Bachchan or a Prem Nazir or a Sivaji Ganesan? It is not opportunities, my dear Anuradha Sriram, it is just chance, a one in a 2,000 year possibility! However, let me tell you, with the right technology and understanding of modern techno sounds and various pop/rock songs, anyone can become a music composer!

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Responses:

• From: A Depressed IR Fan (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on: Fri Apr 24 18:17:51 EDT 1998
  
  Folks
  
  This is after reading an interview with Anuradha Sriram in the Arpil 17, 1998 edition of the Screen. Anuradha has done a Thesis on IR (I am interested in getting hold of that at the earliest) but also claims that anyone with opportunities can become like Ilaiyaraja. I don't understand how she could have made that claim. We are seeing so many musical artistes all over the world with so much facilities and brilliance and I am not able to find anyone who has produced impossible music like IR has done.
  
  So, what is the basis of Anuradha's claim. I mean, I don't disagree with the final portion of that statement (sorry guys, I could not link that url here). I am sure all of you will also not disagree at all with our esteemed Anuradha Sriram on that last bit of that statement in her interview.
  
  However, Anuradha cannot make a claim after coming to know that there are nealy 2.5 billion and only one and the only Ilaiyaraja. Yet, she has the phd to state that anyone can become a Ilaiyaraja. Can anyone please come to my emotional rescue. This statement is like someone said that earth is round, while people all thought she was a square, while everyone in the vedas in the land called Bharath knew that the earth was a real round. I mean, do you get my analogy, here?
  
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Sat Apr 25 02:33:30 EDT 1998
  
  Nithin :
  I too do not share the view that given the opportunity, anyone could become an IR (or anyone else for that matter). First of all, what is meant by "opportunity" ? Opportunity is not presented to anyone on a platter, but is earned by merit. All that one needs to get going is a foothold, nothing more.
  
  This topic reminds me of the comments made by S. A. Rajkumar in an interview with AV a long time ago. In the interview, he had said that IR became the sensation that he is because everything clicked at just the right time for him, and that others like him were not so lucky. That, I feel, is akin to denying credit where it is due.
  
  One cannot expect to get an opportunity like composing a symphony for RPO just like that, and then claim that they did'nt get the chance to prove themselves.
  
  
• From: Onlooker (@ chel3-pm-75.chemeng.iisc.ernet.in) on: Sat Apr 25 10:41:45 EDT 1998
  
  Chuck her. She is probably trying to make herself
  (un)popular! The best way is to not respond to it.
  
  
• From: badri raghavan (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Mon Apr 27 00:51:00 EDT 1998
  
  if anuradha really said that, she would next claim that spb made it big only because he sang in adimai penn, kjj became a star only because he sang "neeyum bommai" and so on and so forth.
  
  as onlooker suggested, the best way to react to anuradha's statement (if it was true) would be to ignore it.
  
  
• From: M. Diwakar (@ j51.jrc1.jaring.my) on: Mon Apr 27 22:34:23 EDT 1998
  
  Get out of your depression pal. IR is not great
  because he wanted to be another MSV or KVM. He has
  his own identity - and what a terrific one! - and
  that is what sets him apart.
  I really wonder what all this talk about opportunity is. The adage that opportunity knocks on your door is nonsense. It just goes past and you have to open the door at the right time. Sorry if this sounds philosophical. But trying to pass the buck to "lack of opportunity" gets my goat.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Apr 28 00:53:20 EDT 1998
  
  This is the url for the Anuradha Sriram interview: http://www.expressindia.com/screen/apr17/music3.htm
  Nithin: After reading her inteview, I feel that you were over-reacting. Hers is an innocent statement.
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ webgate6.mot.com) on: Tue Apr 28 01:06:28 EDT 1998
  
  Nithin, Ravi :
  You're right, Ravi. I just read the article, and Anuradha's statement does sound innocent indeed.
  
  So, Nithin, nothing to worry about pal. Things are all ok. :)
  
  
• From: badri raghavan (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Tue Apr 28 04:40:38 EDT 1998
  
  hi ravi,
  
  thanks for the url. it only goes to prove how even innocous statements like "People with potential, if given opportunities, can become an Illayaraja or a Rahman" can be misconstrued.
  
  btw, IR does not become big or small by what is said of him by others but by what he has produced.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: bhava (@ 202.54.43.98) on: Tue Apr 28 08:30:02 EDT 1998
  
  >> I would like to be a lady SP Balasubramaniam, always full of energy and enthusiasm.
  
  en ipadi SPB a insult seyyanum??
  I would just like to express my opinion on Anuradha's so-called pop album Chennai girl
  (inda thread kum naa solaporadukum sambandham illai)
  
  Chennai girl is so bad wonder how a magazine like Screen could award the same, the BEST album??
  em totally zapped!!! Oru mariah carey, oru Whitney Houston, oru Whigfield - out she comes with an album and the lyrics are YUCK!!! u bet!!
  Why at all give this award to such a YUCKY album?
  tamizh pop in nelamai ivalavu mosamaaga aaga venduma?
  
  idula pen SPB aaga vendum endru pechu veru?
  enaama Ms Anuradha SPB nanraga iruppadi ungaluku pidika villaya?
  
  
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 161.225.48.3) on: Tue Apr 28 13:54:47 EDT 1998
  
  Hi Guys
  
  When I was in Madras I heard the cacaphony
  called Madras Girl .
  The scores were horribly composed , many of the beat samples flicked from various places.
  The recording was some what Ok.
  A collection of carp packed in a CD
  wasting 600mb of space, $12 of money and
  1 hour of our time....and much more...
  
  
  Genius cannot be made - they are born
  Perfect Example :Illayaraja
  Stupids cannot be made- They are born
  Perfect EggZample : AnuRadha Sriram
  
  
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 161.225.48.3) on: Tue Apr 28 14:03:35 EDT 1998
  
  HI
  
  To add to the above
  How many copies she has sold
  so far of madras girl
  
  Only 3 :
  one was bought by anu radha
  one was bought by Sriram
  1 by me - left it in madras- not worth carrying it.
  
  Oru album compose panni Ye entha themiruna
  Raja has composed n number of albums
  Avar enna ellam solonam.......
  
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: Nithin (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on: Tue Apr 28 19:35:29 EDT 1998
  
  Srikanth and Bhava
  
  Thanks a lot, guys. I feel like I am in good company. See, I don't think Anuradha should have made such a statement. Among all the music composers of India in the last 70 years, who could compose music the way IR has done. All those composers were/are immensely talented and look at AR Rahman, immensely talented. I mean, when she said that anyone can become a ARR, I do not dispute that. Look at IR's life story.
  
  It is my firm belief that there can never be anybody like IR, it is simply difficult to explain, but that is the fact.
  
  Anuradha has done her Ph.D. has even produced an album and I can see the reviews now.
  
  To those who said, her statement is innocuous or innocent, it should be restated as 'IGNORANCE'. That is a very calluous statement from Anuradha, while I agree said in a harmless manner, perhaps.
  
  I am not over reacting either, just took an opportunity to bring up a new thread, actually really independent of what any statements from anyone. The question again is, Can anyone be a Ilaiyaraja?
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.250) on: Tue Apr 28 20:00:27 EDT 1998
  
  from whai i inferred fom the interview, i think anuradha sriram has not insulted IR or anyone in particular. because she has also included AR in her statement.so my conclusion is she did not apply her mind properly and made an rbit statement.perhaps she regretted making that statement later.sometimes u want to convey something,but by a wrong choice of words u can convey the wrong meaning. i think this is what happened in anuradha's case.anyway let's cool it.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.250) on: Tue Apr 28 20:01:18 EDT 1998
  
  from whai i inferred fom the interview, i think anuradha sriram has not insulted IR or anyone in particular. because she has also included AR in her statement.so my conclusion is she did not apply her mind properly and made an rbit statement.perhaps she regretted making that statement later.sometimes u want to convey something,but by a wrong choice of words u can convey the wrong meaning. i think this is what happened in anuradha's case.anyway let's cool it.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Apr 28 20:28:05 EDT 1998
  
  Nithin: Why did you have to start a new thread to discuss whether anyone can become a Ilayaraja. You could have done it in the 'Claiming IR as all the time...' thread. :-).
  
  
• From: Nithin (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on: Wed Apr 29 00:29:59 EDT 1998
  
  Ravi
  
  This is the flip side of the coin! ;--)
  
  
• From: siva (@ makom.fkm.utm.my) on: Mon May 4 02:00:01 EDT 1998
  
  well IR is exceptionally unique.no can can be another IR interms of exquisite rythms,nad mesmerising music.but one can follow his style like being done currently by deva and airvi and ARR(at times).IR is the greatest of all time
  
  
• From: siva (@ makom.fkm.utm.my) on: Mon May 4 02:00:16 EDT 1998
  
  well IR is exceptionally unique.no can can be another IR interms of exquisite rythms,nad mesmerising music.but one can follow his style like being done currently by deva and airvi and ARR(at times).IR is the greatest of all time
  
  
• From: SARA (@ 202.188.155.11) on: Mon May 11 08:29:53 EDT 1998
  
  pls do not compare IR with anyone. He is the best musician ever born to gives the best of tamil songs. Pls sit any listen to his songs before u even try to compare it with others. He is like a ocean and rest of them are the rivers which flows to this ocean. Let us pray to get another IR to be born.
  
  
• From: Vishwas (@ 202.54.39.98) on: Fri May 15 09:18:03 EDT 1998
  
  Sorry about this Anuradha, but I suggest you go consult a doctor !!! IR is THE greatest film music director, got it ?!!
  
  
• From: nil (@ palo13.pacific.net.sg) on: Mon Sep 27 05:50:02 EDT 1999
  
  wait a minute..does anyone want to be an illayaraja in the 1st place?????
  if the answer is yes...errr that's scary
  it really is
  we don;t need anymore boring music in this
  world do we
  
  
• From: UV (@ netcache31.mot.com) on: Mon Sep 27 10:56:56 EDT 1999
  
  nil,
  u don't have to declare u have a lousy music sense
  
  
• From: vimal (@ enpc2559.eas.asu.edu) on: Mon Sep 27 12:56:19 EDT 1999
  
  Forget he views... SHe sings like a mouse being trapped
  
  
• From: Nil, gavani, revive (@ spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Sep 28 03:14:05 EDT 1999
  
  nil, did you have to revive this , just for that comment ?
  
  
• From: Nil,Gavani, Revive (@ spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Sep 28 03:25:39 EDT 1999
  
  Nil, Did you have to revive this, just for passing that comment ?
  
  
• From: Ayesha (@ ) on: Mon Aug 25 18:36:07 EDT 2003
  
  I need the email id of Anuradha Sriram.My address is ayesha_thameem@hotmail.com
  
  

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