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COMPOSING-performing to the composition

Topic started by shysun (@ 203.199.203.194) on Wed Jul 18 09:52:05 EDT 2001.
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dear dfers,everybody seem to support arr giving liberty to his singers to sing freely with variations,this is not signs of a good composer,a composer is one who knows what is being composed and expects to be perfect to his notes.imagine what would have happened if bach and beethoven had let their players play to their creativity instead of the notes given ,we would not have had all the classics,these are classics bcos they are performed as written,in my humble opinion raaja is the only true composer in tfm,do you agree to this viewpoint,get real......shysun.

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• From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ cbe-d63.pppmad.vsnl.net.in) on: Wed Jul 18 10:35:30 EDT 2001
  
  Shysun,
  
  This was in my mind for long! Happy to see that you too think like me! I strongly support your views.
  
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• From: Bharath won't re-invent the wheel (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Wed Jul 18 11:13:26 EDT 2001
  
  shysun do u know what "aattu manthai " is?
  
  its blindly following rituals of the past without any difference.
  
  IR maybe bach/beethovan but ARR is coppernicus! urundaiyana olagathukku vangaiyya!
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 208.51.40.115) on: Wed Jul 18 11:42:22 EDT 2001
  
  If a performer can improve the composer's ideas and make the music sound better, then he or she should be allowed to.
  
  On the other hand, if composer's ideas are too good to improve upon, they stay!!
  
  ;)
  
  RJ
  http://www.mp3.com/rjay
  
  
• From: peeps (@ test6.cbsinc.com) on: Wed Jul 18 11:58:38 EDT 2001
  
  mmm..in my opinion "no"..In western classical music there's little room for improvement as they perform as a very big group and improvisation from one individual will not be visible..
  Coming to our TFM i think IR gave room for singers to improvise..SPB,Janaki,KJY has done it in n number of songs..May be he is strict in orchestration..heard abt him that he never leaves anyone till he gets what he wants..But that does not mean that he never allows improvisation..
  According to ur view for a musical output all the credit should go to the MD.But it is a team effort.Improvisation makes it more beautiful..but that improvisation should be in a proper way and should be accepted by the composer..
  Not only ARR,any MD will try his best to make the song look good.So no terming like "Good Composer" or "Bad Composer"..
  In my opinion improvisation comes mostly from singers(it is more visible to the ordinary listeners)..Has any one felt improvisations made by instrumentalists??Sadly i couldnt figure out any.
  If i am a MD and if i have the confidence in my singer or instrumentalist i give them freedom to improvise..thats it..
  Good composer or Bad composer will be decided by TIME..
  All IMVHO.
  
  
• From: sats (@ fwc1.hbocvan.com) on: Wed Jul 18 14:04:18 EDT 2001
  
  peeps
  
  TIME WAS IR
  
  adhu kuda rombo sumara dhan irundadhu
  
  
• From: peeps (@ test6.cbsinc.com) on: Mon Jul 23 01:38:18 EDT 2001
  
  ayoo..yennoda TIME sariyilla ippo...:-)
  
  

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