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- From: rameshb (@ stagfw.thehartford.com)
on: Mon Apr 26 15:14:09 EDT 1999
Geetha,
Songs of jOdi have grown on me after i felt surfieted with ESK. 'vaNNap poongAvai' and 'kAthal kaditham' are nice melodies. S. Janaki sounds amazingly fresh in this song compared to her other songs in the late 90's. Could you tell me what raga is this song based on , especially the second interlude? I see a combo of IR(violin orchestration) and MSV (flute melody)style in this second interlude. 'veLLi nilavE' is good for being a wonderful melody , but i didn't like the trumpet in the second interlude(this probably was needed for the situation in the movie) and it doesn't seem to fit in the melody. Other albums released in '99 like padayappa , monisha en monalisha and rajasthan are NOR WORTH even reviewing (except for minsara poove from padayappa). But, as IR himself pointed out once in an interview, i would 'go search for' melodies of my taste whereever available and hence i found 'Harikrishnans' as one the best in the recent years as for as melody is concerned. Could you review the album harikrishnans , especially for 'thamizh isai '(unnikrishnan,kjy and chitra) with respect to raga(s) used in the 'review of new albums' thread?
- From: vimal (@ 129.219.38.218)
on: Mon Apr 26 15:16:27 EDT 1999
rajaG,
Can you please enlighten me about Audava ragas? Is Nalinakanthi one of them?
- From: ragumanfan (@ freenet.nether.net)
on: Mon Apr 26 15:57:31 EDT 1999
vimal,even if you guys say are not arr is best.ir is
not worst.in the past he was also best.but now arr is best.
ram,you can start tha thread.i will tell the title-since when did ir run out of stuff is correct.
ir fans keep saying ir achived ir achived.what ir achived.no one will say.only ir fans
say raguman is bad.raguman fan will not say like that.he will say only arr is good.only ir fans will say
arr fan to get brain.arr fan will not say like that.ir fans should think before
making fun of other peoples.
- From: Diwakar (@ 206.175.177.168)
on: Mon Apr 26 16:03:48 EDT 1999
Nalinakanthi is not an audava raga. An audava raga takes 5 notes in both the arohanam ( ascending ) and avarohanam ( descending ). Examples are as rajaG has given : Mohanam, Hindolam, Suddha Danyasi, Suddha Saveri, Madhyamavathi, Valaji, Varamu, Hamsadvani etc.
BTW, Dr. Balamuralikrishna has released ( quite a while back ) a cassette with the Kalyani Adi Tala varnam, two of his own compositions in Kalyani and Thyagaraja's Sundari Nee. As rajaG says, he has cooked up Kalyani aviyal, Kalyani sambhar, Kalyani thogaiyyal and Kalyani Payasam - not in any particular order!! The treatment of Kalyani is very different in each case. And that, I suppose, is the point that rajaG is making.
- From: tharai mahaajanam (@ kcecfp02.sprint.com)
on: Mon Apr 26 16:06:36 EDT 1999
ragumanfan,
vandhaachchaa! neenga illaama irundhadhu dhaan ingEy oru koraiyaa irundhadhu. adhuvum taken care of. inimEy ellaam sariya poodum!!:-)
- From: vimal (@ 129.219.38.218)
on: Mon Apr 26 16:17:16 EDT 1999
Ragumanfan,
Seriously, are you not SPM?
- From: vimal (@ 129.219.38.218)
on: Mon Apr 26 16:17:46 EDT 1999
Ragumanfan,
Seriously, what did we all do to you?
- From: SitaRam (@ portal.ameritech.com)
on: Mon Apr 26 18:22:32 EDT 1999
Geetha, aap kya bolthe hain? Are you saying that Jodi is not the same as Oonjal and Doli Sajaake Rakna (En Swaase Kaatre) Please clarify this confusion. Secondly, did you say that IR said that he would go search for melodies and he like Harikrishnas very much? Is this the malayalam movie you are talking of? Thanking you,
- From: Sivalingam (@ bkj-cache81.jaring.my)
on: Mon Apr 26 21:00:17 EDT 1999
All AR album recently are only waste.AR really do not have music knowledge.I think Vidyasagar is far better than AR.AR only know to copy music just like Deva did.We can't compare IR with AR because this is very shame to music industries.IR is God of music.AR is god of copy and cheate.
- From: Srinath (@ abd1e0f4.ipt.aol.com)
on: Mon Apr 26 21:20:16 EDT 1999
I am just waiting for the next "Objective" DFer to come around and start bashing IR and all his fans because of Sivalingam's post. Idhu dhaane ungalukku chance. You cannot nit-pick with any of my statements, so you'll use thoughtless posts like the one above to counter my arguments.
Ravi:
You should password enable this forum and make it mandatory for people to be read-only DFers for a period of 4 weeks before you allow them to post. Illana regulars like me are going to suffer in the face of such senseless posts like the one from Sivalingam. Perhaps you should restrict newcomers to delayed posting where their posts will be sanitized before being added to a thread. But I have my own doubts about this *.jaring.my domain, only senseless posts have ever come from it. Maybe you should ban it !
- From: RAGHUMANFAN (@ 98cf5028.ipt.aol.com)
on: Mon Apr 26 21:42:39 EDT 1999
raghuman fan,
keep posting.it is big relief from usual IR jalra gosti. I am laso willing to writing for new IR forum.
RAGHUMANFAN
- From: bb (@ bernstein.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Mon Apr 26 22:32:35 EDT 1999
srinath, NOV's domain is also jaring.my:)))))))
NOV, inge paarungO, chinnap pasangaL ellaam ungaLai block pannap paakkaraanga:)))))
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.8)
on: Mon Apr 26 22:50:08 EDT 1999
bb - :-))
Srinath - Engalaiyum paththoadu pathinonaa ninaichuteengalaa?
So goodbye Rohini, Manisekaran, Dr. Jaybee, innum eththanai peiroa! :-)))
Don't deny it Srinath, I know you have been waiting for this opportunity to deny me access.
However, I won't hold this against you, since having hopes, wishes and desires are not crimes. :-)))))
- From: Raja Fan (@ spider-wj062.proxy.aol.com)
on: Mon Apr 26 23:40:48 EDT 1999
Sivalingam sounds like some missing person these days. Could anyone figure that out?
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:53:21 EDT 1999
Sitaram: Please READ the posts....I reviewed 3 albums, Padayappa, Jodi(Same as Oonjal, same as Doli Saje Ke Rakanahe - NOT ESK) and Kadhalar Dhinam.
RAMESHB: Very true....
Ragumanfan: Please chill.
- From: e.hari (@ hud04a01.ml.com)
on: Tue Apr 27 09:56:53 EDT 1999
geetha,
what u think about kadhalar dinam?. Do u like it?.
I m not happy with both padaiyappa and kadhalr dinam, both are very medicore albums from ARR, IMO.
hari
- From: Srinath (@ ss04.nc.us.ibm.com)
on: Tue Apr 27 10:01:11 EDT 1999
bb:
Evvalavu naala kaathirundha enna ippadi pazhi vaanga ? :-))
NOV:
Neenga vilayaata sonnalum, naan konjam serious-a thaan eduthunden. I really feel bad that most of the DF old-timers no longer frequent these threads :-( And since that took place within a few months of my becoming a regular, yenaku eppavume manasukkulla oru sandegam, if I did anything to accelerate the attrition :-( Naan enna ottumoththama Malaysia-ve vendaamunna sonnen ? Unga posts ellaam jaring.my-nnu enakku theriyaamapochu adha indha bb nalla exploit pannitaan :-) BTW, is Jaring a city in Malaysia ? Enakku jaring.my-la yen sandegam-na there were some rabid anti-IR posts from that domain :-) There is another domain proxy.emirates.something from which a couple of guys used to regularly ignite IR vs ARR fights. Neenga vendamunnu sonnalum, please accept my sincere apologies :-)
bb unakku udhai thaan :-) DF-laye thanukkunnu oru official abbrev. irukkura orey mahaan namma NOV saar thaan ! Avaraiye thoondi vidara unakku mannippe kidayaadhu :-)
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Tue Apr 27 10:23:21 EDT 1999
E-Hari: Please look at my review of KD. It's in the ARR thread, amongst all the arguments....I quite liked it, but haven't given enough listenings. In fact, with Jodi, my appreciation really grew after many listenings, but with KD, my only favourite is Roja....One the whole though, it's a good album, IMO. Padayappa was indeed mediocre, with the exception of Minsaara Kanna.
- From: Ravi (@ envy.cs.umass.edu)
on: Tue Apr 27 10:59:28 EDT 1999
IR - ARR -um orE maathiri music pOdaraangaLO illayO thanks to the recent events, both IR and ARR new albums look the same.. Geetha this is the ARR new albums thread. I strongly urge people to stop their digressions and get back to the task on hand.. that of reviewing ARR's new albums.
- From: SitaRam (@ portal.ameritech.com)
on: Tue Apr 27 11:32:28 EDT 1999
Friends, this is my experience so far.
I love to listen to all of ARR's albums atleast once, becuase I am very curious and hopeful. No expectations. No guarantee Unfortunately, I don't find any reason to listen to them a third time. If anyone is a marketing manager looking for increasing sales dramatically, please factor in these three elements:
Curiosity
Hope
Guarantee
Guarantee is inversely proportional to Curiosity and hope. Expectation = Guarantee times satisfaction for 25 years. No expectation = Guarantee divided by satisfaction for 25 years
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Tue Apr 27 11:32:35 EDT 1999
Ravi: Firstly, Sorry, Secondly, I think you know as well as I do about what happened? I did review all three of ARR's new albums yesterday and also 2 of IR's new albums:) - This seems to have triggered a lot of un-lawful digression. I apologise again. I have also accepted truce, just maybe I shold start a thread in order to have my questions answered:)
Please take off the other stuff by me if you wish, a lot of it was pointing fingers and CntrlXV....
- From: hari (@ hud04a01.ml.com)
on: Tue Apr 27 12:39:50 EDT 1999
geetha,
I read ur reviews, but you mentioned very little about kadhlar dinam, so my reason for asking it. I have listened to this album for more than few times in the web, and it is not growing on me (except maria maria and roja).
If kadhalar dinam was not available in web, I
could have ended up buying the album, as i always do. Who said, songs in the web are good for marketing?. :-)
- From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk)
on: Tue Apr 27 12:52:45 EDT 1999
Hari: I wouldn't recommend you to expect anything on the web, especially on pages like Aingharan to sound good. A lot of the appeal is in the CD recording. I think that Aruvi summed up the album very well, so please read her review, it was very good.
More ARR Info....
A song picturization with Rehman and Vindya for the movie Sangamam took place in Jaisalmer's desert lands, with 60 dancers. Part of the song is picturized in Simla and Jaipur. Written by Vairamuthu and sung by Nithyasri, the song was choreographed by S Raghuram. The movie has a good mix of Bharatanatyam and folk dances. The movie is directed by Suresh Krishna.
Lets hope its' a good one....
- From: ragumanfan (@ freenet.nether.net)
on: Tue Apr 27 14:52:03 EDT 1999
sangamam is also arr movie only.it will be great treat
for our ears.to listen to this new arr album.i am not able to wait to hear the next new arr album.
i listend to kadalar dinam today.it was great music.arr had done it again.simpley superb music.
the first song in sun tv top 10 is padaiapa song and the second one is monisha tr song.
padaiapa is also very good album.for all peoples who say that arr puts music slowly i want to tell you
that arr had already put six music albums this year before april finishes.all of them are very very super hits.
so here after wards arr hatred peoples should think before commenting on arr music.sivalingam should hear all these albums before comenting on arr music.i can also say sirpi is beter than ilayraja.immediately ir fans will say non sense.then,what sivalingam told was also nonsense.
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