
Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.
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- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Tue Feb 20 10:56:37 EST 2001
Kupps...I totally agree with your comments. Gnani tried to pretend like a Gnani by saying something different. There was no need to pull other MD's in. His comments are more publishable in TFM page than in Ambalam.
- From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48)
on: Tue Feb 20 11:21:36 EST 2001
The point is IR really deserves a Padma Sri,Padma Vibhushan its sad after achieving so many things he got little recogntion.
I think TN govt should recommend highly for him.
Kamal,Rajini,ARR all of them got but not IR
now I am not belittling their achievement only complain why IR not being given.
For person who has been in the industry for 25odd yrs and achieved so many milestones its a very sad indeed :(
Sometimes the award themselves become meaningless
- From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4)
on: Tue Feb 20 11:35:45 EST 2001
Kupps, you are right. The ambalam writer has published the response from people he interviewed. Usually, the press tries to present a 'statistical sample' of the prevailing opinion of the masses. But most times they end up presenting their own opinion. I think in this case, this response has been published to show that there is some fan following for Deva himself. Its okay, they have to represent different points of view.
We should write back about the extraordinary musical features of gAnA :(
As for folk music, I think it is the basis of carnatic music. It has grammar, it has rules, it has musical appeal. I think IR did a great contribution to the tamil music genre by using folk and carnatic music extensively. He enriched our music culture by using elements of western classical music unobtrusively. He took tamil/indian movies to higher standards with his BGM. He also explored various situation/opportunities for songs/music in the movies. To him music is not just songs, it is integral part of the movie. These things seem to have not dawned on our 'intellectuals'. Apart from all this, like Subbiah says, he is a living example of pure hardwork and creativity and a hope for all the disadvantaged people in our country. I think padmashri awards value goes down because it has not been recognised by IR !!!
- From: Kezhangu (@ 203.197.134.131)
on: Tue Feb 20 12:25:13 EST 2001
All F###n B###s. Stop this nonsense Admin.
- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.202)
on: Tue Feb 20 12:26:19 EST 2001
IR music lovers; Other MD lovers may not like this site; Still can read and enjoy;
http://members.tripod.com/raaja_saga/sathya.html
Just typing from a different computer (IP address is different)
- From: Venki (@ 12.35.64.19)
on: Tue Feb 20 12:49:25 EST 2001
I am worried about the Magzine where the so called Gnani works for
Venki
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Tue Feb 20 13:24:14 EST 2001
Mr.Gnani is jealous of real gnanis.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Tue Feb 20 13:26:48 EST 2001
Fliflo,
The article was very enjoyable.
I especially enjoyed two parts of the article very much.
1) Where the author says there is proof that ARR has copied and supplies the proof.
2)Sensational solo male-Kanavu Kaanum vazhkai from Neengal Kettavai.This is one of my favourite songs too.Only IR could come up with such a tune.Great!Way to go.
- From: R.S.Balaji (@ 203.90.93.84)
on: Tue Feb 20 13:33:46 EST 2001
RAJA IS GREAT. NO AWARDS AND REWARDS ARE WORTH THE MAESTRO! THE AWARDS DON'T DESERVE HIM.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.235)
on: Tue Feb 20 14:46:06 EST 2001
This is a part from that article:
"Ilayaraja was paid Rs 40 lacks for Thalabathi in 1991, the highest till then. He was the man who made the music directors to be paid on par with or ahead of actors.
THIS IS THE TREND SET BY ILAYARAJA"
Was Rajini paid less than Rs.40 lakhs by GV for that movie?If yes, does anybody have any idea how much was Rajini paid?
- From: Venki (@ 12.35.64.19)
on: Tue Feb 20 15:15:47 EST 2001
Trend
I beg no argument on something good about Illayaraja.
Venki
- From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.30)
on: Tue Feb 20 15:35:56 EST 2001
Trend
i) :-))))))) - for your first remark (posting)
ii) poanaap poaguthu... mannichchu vittudunga.. - for your second
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Tue Feb 20 15:37:53 EST 2001
Venki,
I'm trying to extract the facts from the article.I felt a few parts of the article were emotional and not entirely factual.But I'm not sure, because the whole article can be perfectly true.
I'm interested in the facts that would show a better indication of IR's strength.
I surely don't have anything against IR.But personally I don't like it if someone praises IR at the expense of others like Rajni,Kamal or AR Rahman.
Primarily, this indicates a weakness of being a fan of someone.
All the above in my humble opinion and has a very good chance of being total trash.
Kaiyure mela nadakkara madhiri irukku.-)
- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.202)
on: Tue Feb 20 16:24:48 EST 2001
Who can verify about Rajini's salary Either "Mani" or Rajini himself. You can not believe what they write in newspapers also..The article might have a few flaws, however it is enjoyable.
- From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48)
on: Wed Feb 21 09:41:14 EST 2001
Dear friends if you take a look at the article
myart by IR at this site
http://members.tripod.com/raaja_saga/sathya.html
you can see our man has changed or some metmorphosis has taken place in this article
he defends cinema and his composition for it
and now IR is saying he has wasted his time focusing only on cine music
why this change?
- From: NotBlaminghim (@ 202.144.88.21)
on: Wed Feb 21 10:22:42 EST 2001
Kanavu Kaanum vaazhkai - Straight lift from the Hindi original "Kasme Vaadhe..."
It is not the original tune of IR
- From: PRASAD (@ 206.102.161.11)
on: Thu Feb 22 09:26:11 EST 2001
Hi! NotBlaminghim!
I remember this is not from IR movie. In my memory it is by shankar ganesh or salil choudry. Can anyone tell what movie it is from?
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Thu Feb 22 09:54:17 EST 2001
PRASAD
Its from a IR movie, IR exchanged this song for 'Ilayanila pozhigiradhe' with Kalyanji-Anandji. It has been talked here 50 times now.
- From: kooththan (@ 198.73.152.100)
on: Thu Feb 22 10:45:39 EST 2001
Prasad,
The movie is 'neengal ketavai'. A Balu Mahendra movie with Thyagarajan, where Archana was introduced.
KK,
What do you mean 'exchanged' ? Just curious.
....later
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Thu Feb 22 11:25:46 EST 2001
kk,
"IR exchanged this song for 'Ilayanila pozhigiradhe' with Kalyanji-Anandji"
Looks like a intelligent way of extending geographically a song's reach.I think we should appreciate both the MDs for that.
If this was not done,I wouldn't have got my "Kanavu kaanum vaazhkai" and Hindi fans would have missed out "Ilayanila"
- From: back street boys (@ 63.226.195.177)
on: Thu Feb 22 11:32:36 EST 2001
The great south indian composer Deva exchanged songs with us, like he handpicked and selected few songs and we took some of his gana songs.
We also recommened him to others to exchange.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Thu Feb 22 11:46:07 EST 2001
back street boys,
I think his fav song of yours is "Get down Get down....".I have become ur fan after listening to Deva's version of this song.
But what is your fav song of his?What specially attrated you to his composition?
- From: back street boys (@ 63.226.195.177)
on: Thu Feb 22 12:01:19 EST 2001
trend, howdy.
There are many, the famous one we all like is the song that ends in "AnDAlu",
also, We had a chat with santana after the grammys yesterday, It seems he also exchanged a song for yeh yeh kichu kilye...he was very proud to work with Deva., we will ask him to post here for you, his cell is busy right now.
- From: Highway Man (@ 199.206.254.61)
on: Thu Feb 22 12:54:07 EST 2001
yeh yeh kichu kilye was not by Santana......theru pasangala
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Thu Feb 22 14:04:33 EST 2001
Koothan,
When 'Payanagal mudivathilai' was remade in Hindi, KA decided to use few of the tamil songs. Raja too gave the notes for the song to KA team, as they felt parts of it was complex. May be Raja felt its humble from KA's (for someone who can make a classic like ek tuje ke liye) part to use his song. So, he used one of KA's classic in his movie. Just heard so in this forum.
- From: comment (@ 63.225.173.254)
on: Thu Feb 22 14:27:49 EST 2001
Is this exchange something like stamps collection exchange.
kk -- i have been here in DF for 4 years, i have never seen this exchange story anywhere. as sridhar points out, roja roja song is close to the varumai neram sivapo hindi songs, (thu yeh raja something..something..) you are just defending for the sake of it..
- From: ?? (@ 216.71.84.237)
on: Thu Feb 22 15:11:37 EST 2001
Also Ek Duje Ke Liye was by Laksmikanth Pyarelal
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~navin/india/songs/isongs/3/337.html
- From: sabesan (@ 12.47.56.68)
on: Thu Feb 22 15:50:48 EST 2001
comment - i had told the "exchange" story some time back in the "Copied Songs" thread - kindly go thro the "Old responses" in that thread u will find one - and in fact i was not the first one to say about that song in that thread.....
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Thu Feb 22 17:40:43 EST 2001
comment,
sathyama ingathapa padichen..lol. Ennakku avvlo karpanai irunda ungla madiri composer ayiruppen.
- From: Satya (@ 24.43.140.252)
on: Thu Feb 22 18:59:31 EST 2001
I was in Cheenai last week. Couldn't find any Ullam Kollai Poguthe Cds. They tell me the Cds are selling like hot cakes. The first 2 weeks this CD hardly sold. No they can't find enough copies. I think that the songs are FANTASTIC!!!
- From: Satya (@ 24.43.140.252)
on: Thu Feb 22 18:59:48 EST 2001
I was in Cheenai last week. Couldn't find any Ullam Kollai Poguthe Cds. They tell me the Cds are selling like hot cakes. The first 2 weeks this CD hardly sold. Now they can't find enough copies. I think that the songs are FANTASTIC!!!
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