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Cassette Sales??

Topic started by Jeera (@ 206.175.176.2) on Fri Aug 30 13:01:42 EDT 2002.
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From time to Time hear about so many cassette being sold?.
How far are these figures true?.
Is there an Organization in India which collects these statistics?.
When they talk about cassette sales are they talking about the number of cassettes released into the market (based on anticipation) or really sales of cassettes?.
When I was in India, most of the villages (tea shops and other public places where songs are played) had copied or duplicated cassettes (not the originals). Does this trend still continue?. If it does how do they come at this figure?.

Note: Please, there is no hidden agenda in the above questions?. All the above are genuine questions that arose in my mind?. Please keep this thread devoid any fan fightings.

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• From: Awe (@ 65.69.45.117) on: Fri Aug 30 13:53:35 EDT 2002
  
  I don't think they have accurate pictures of cassette sales in India especially in the mp3 world. But hollywood maintains the record of all the sales.. For each millions you sell you get one platinum.. for example if you have 6 platinums
  it means you have sold 6 millions of copies..
  
  ALL TIME BEST SELLING MOVIE SOUNDTRACKS IN HOLLYWOOD..
  
  1)BodyGuard (1993) 17 million
  It has got one haunting melody by Whitney houston. 'I will always love you' One the of all time great love ballad..
  
  2)Saturday Night Fever (1978) 15 millions
  First time i listened to this album by Beegees way back in 1980 in a small place near trichy.
  'staying alive' instantly became an addictive song for me. Such energy and verve.. we hardly understood any english being too young. But we listened to it until the cassette became unusable.
  John Travolta, white polyester dress, Bee Gees proved to be a deadly combination.
  
  3)Purple Rain (1984) 13 Millions
  
  This i heard only during my college days. I don't like this guy for his weird looks. When The Doves Cry or some song it was ok.. But other than that it is just an ok soundtrack..
  
  4)Forrest Gump (1994) 12 Millions
  
  It would be enjoyable if you watch it with movie..
  
  5)Dirty Dancing (1987) 11 Millions
  
  Man don't miss this soundtracks if you have not heard already.. It has one excellent number 'Time of my life' .. wow.. great dance number..
  
  6) Titanic (1997) 11 Millions
  
  I don't have to say much about it
  
  7) Lion King (1994) 10 Millions
  
  Most successful animated movie in history of animation. Elton John won the oscar for the song 'Can you feel the love tonight' from this movie.. great song.. must own for disney fans.They clearly have recognition for all types of artists. Rap, hiphop , any type artist..
  
  8) Grease (1978) - 8 Millions
  
  Musical movie for John Travolta and olivia newton john... fun to watch.
  
  9) FootLoose (1984) - 8 Millions
  
  Kevin Bacon had a good break in this movie.. Kenny Rogers gave some great numbers in this.. starting with 'Foot Loose'
  
  10) Waiting to Exhale - 7 Millions
  
  I think this one by whitney houston..
  
  I haven't heard much about this movie. I don't have 3,4 and 10. But i have all the rest..
  
  I guess it is not difficult to keep track of cassette sales if you have one central place to distribute the cassettes... But the interaction between the dealers and distributors should be constant so that distributor can reasonably accurately come out believable statistics. Hope it will become more organized in future..
  
  
• From: geeth (@ 213.189.83.103) on: Sat Aug 31 07:45:14 EDT 2002
  
  there was some way to measure when records (discs) were sold in the market. 16 Vayadhiniley was announced as the first platinum (or golden?) disc winner in Tamil. anything after that?
  
  
• From: kk (@ 172.143.74.80) on: Sat Aug 31 22:58:50 EDT 2002
  
  Obviously they wont count priarted cassestes.
  Any Audio producer will know how many copies he is making and how well its received. I guess they make batch by batch, seeing public reaction and agents feedback.
  
  But!, know one knows if they are saying the truth or just faking. In US I guess there is proper count, but that too can be faked if needed.
  
  
• From: Film Information (@ 202.9.167.136) on: Sun Sep 1 01:03:47 EDT 2002
  
  Top audio sales in Indian music industry were published in leading trade magazine "Film Information" by Komal Nahta last year.
  
  
  all figures in the number of audio units sold.
  thats inclusive of cassettes and CDs.
  
  1. Bombay - 13 million (1 crore 30 lakhs)
  2. Hum Aapke Hein Kaun - 9 million (90 lakhs)
  3. Taal - 7.5 million (75 lakhs)
  4. Kuch Kuch Hota Hein - 6.5 million (65 lakhs)
  5. Dil Se - 5.5 million (55 lakhs)
  6. Kaho Na Pyar Hein - 5 million (50 lakhs)
  
  
  
  
• From: IMI (@ 202.9.186.10) on: Sun Sep 1 01:24:55 EDT 2002
  
  There's an organization IMI (Indian Music Industry) which keeps track of audio sales of their member companies by their Platinum/Gold disc certification. All registered music labels in India are members of IMI.
  IMI is also actively involved in anti-piracy operations.
  
  Here's the IMI STANDARDS for Platinum/Gold disc certification :
  
  
  HINDI FILMS
  GOLD - 500,000 units PLATINUM - 10,00,000 units
  
  REGIONAL FILMS
  GOLD - 100,000 units PLATINUM - 200,000 units
  
  REGIONAL BASIC
  GOLD - 60,000 units PLATINUM - 120,000 units
  
  NATIONAL BASIC
  GOLD - 100,000 units PLATINUM - 200,000 units
  
  INTERNATIONAL
  GOLD - 20,000 units PLATINUM - 40,000 units
  
  CLASSICAL/SEMI-CLASSICAL
  GOLD - 20,000 units PLATINUM - 40,000 units
  
  
• From: geeth (@ 213.189.83.103) on: Sun Sep 1 01:42:00 EDT 2002
  
  I think IMI should rework the figures for National sales. The 'film information' figures speak out. Any data on platinums in Tamil ?
  
  
• From: Jeera (@ 66.75.185.71) on: Sun Sep 1 02:25:46 EDT 2002
  
  any Idea of how these cassette sales figures are arrived at!!.
  
  for e.g. how did they did they know thet 16 vayathiniley sold 120000 (or whatever units)?.
  
  One way od accounting could be this:
  
  They take into the number of cassettes/CD distibuted to local shops and detect the amount of cassettes/Cd's returned (due to Non-Sale). Is this how they do it?
  
  
• From: geeth (@ 213.189.83.103) on: Sun Sep 1 05:36:08 EDT 2002
  
  Another interesting aspect which comes to light here is the money involved. taking an average of Rs.200 for a CD and Rs.50 for a cassette, and considering 50% of sales is CDs, then BOMBAY sales works out to cool 1.6 crore rupees. HAHK has done 1.12 crore rupees. Forget about the success of the movie. Producer has made enough money in music sales. I don't think this levels of money and music sales are not there in TFM.
  
  
• From: geeth (@ 213.189.83.103) on: Sun Sep 1 05:37:50 EDT 2002
  
  Sorry
  'I don't think this levels of money and music sales are there in TFM'
  
  
• From: me (@ 202.9.167.181) on: Sun Sep 1 06:53:12 EDT 2002
  
  > 'I don't think this levels of money and music sales are there in TFM'
  
  geeth:
  You forgot,Bombay is a tamil movie.
  
  
• From: geeth (@ 213.189.83.103) on: Sun Sep 1 09:18:19 EDT 2002
  
  me, i don't think Bombay (tamil) CDs and cassettes sold for more than one crore. It must be the hindi version. the satisfaction is, it was tfm guys like MR and ARR behind this album. same with DilSe too.
  
  
• From: sidddhartha bose (@ ) on: Sun May 25 13:25:04 EDT 2003
  
  I want airtel ringtone for my ericsson A3618 handset.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.198.206.104) on: Sun May 25 14:37:16 EDT 2003
  
  Awe,
  Purple Rain is a fabulous album. Prince was one of the few pop geniuses in a mediocre 80s decade. Only Saturday Night Fever, and Dirty Dancing (although a compilation of mostly old songs, save for a few new inferior ones) come close to its class. The rest of the albums in the top ten are trifles, regardless of how many they sold.
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.129) on: Mon May 26 04:15:45 EDT 2003
  
  Whats the of cassette sales for Udhaya & Parashuram???Real one plzz1
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.249) on: Mon May 26 05:27:40 EDT 2003
  
  I know Muthalvan got some Platinum.....but dunno what's the Unit Sold figure.
  
  Now that got to be in TFM alone rite?
  
  
• From: geeth (@ 195.39.134.84) on: Mon May 26 08:09:22 EDT 2003
  
  Paran, if Muthalvan had gone platinum it must be for tfm alone and must have crossed 200,000 (comb of cassettes and CDs). we don't get the figures and trade industry details.
  see the link below which talks about a new telugu movie - Vijayam, going triple platinum even before the movie is released. must be a real big music market in Andhra.
  
  http://www.idlebrain.com/trade/tsynop/index.html
  
  
• From: ARR LOVER (@ 210.210.32.206) on: Mon Jun 2 08:44:20 EDT 2003
  
  CASSETES SALES OF UDHAYA----1500
  
  PARASURAM 1000
  
  
  
• From: prithvi sen (@ ) on: Wed Aug 27 03:25:30 EDT 2003
  
  i'm doing a project on economic analysis of the music industry.could you tell me,where i could get the sales figures and datas from?
  
  
• From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.6) on: Wed Aug 27 06:22:42 EDT 2003
  
  sen,
  contact any mp3 cd sellers..he he
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Wed Aug 27 09:35:20 EDT 2003
  
  LLD, nice to see u back in ur old IP(porandha veedu) :)
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 202.9.180.236) on: Wed Aug 27 11:52:43 EDT 2003
  
  Prabhu,
  LLD-a neenga indirect-a ponnu-nu solreengala enna? :)
  
  
• From: R.Saravanan (@ 219.65.117.163) on: Wed Aug 27 18:16:39 EDT 2003
  
  Cassette Sales and CD sales are down due to Piracy. In whole India, you can get pirated Cds and Mp3 Cds from Rs 40 to Rs 60. These pirated Cds are better quality than Audio Cassettes. The latest Hindi Hit Devdas managed to sold only 20 lakhs.
  
  
• From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.6) on: Thu Aug 28 04:43:47 EDT 2003
  
  C~P,
  please dont reveal my gender in public forums..it may spoil my future..Thanks
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 202.9.181.169) on: Thu Aug 28 09:25:53 EDT 2003
  
  LLD,
  but hey...Prabhu gave it out first!
  btw...spoil ur future?...hehehe....i dunno wat to say abt this!
  
  

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