Topic started by sundar (@ 202.9.162.140) on Sat Jul 21 07:19:17 EDT 2001.
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it pains to note some of the alltime best compositions,lyrics and rendering have not been recognised at our national level.(TFM)
MSV/TKR never got any award for any of their immortal songs as MDs.
TMS deserved awards for Vasantha mullai,sindanai sai maname,Paatum naane and several other MGR/Sivaji songs.
MSV going alone deserved awards for anbe vaa, ulagum sutrum vaaliban,Apoorva ragangal,Nizhal nijamakirathu, Pattina pravesam,varumaiyin niRam sivappu and Ninaithaley inikkum.
IR should have got awrds for kavikkuyil, payangaL mudivadhillay,kaadal oviyum ,azhage unnai aaradhikkiren,vaidehi kaathirundhaL,karakatakaran,chinna thambi, NizhagaL, kizhakku vaasal, keladi kaNmNi, varusham padinaaru, thalapathy, ejamaan, paadum nila etc.
ARR should have got award for Duet.
SPB has perhaps the distinction of not getting any award for his most memorable performances in TFM starting with
1. AAyIRAM nilave vaa
2. AvaL oru navarasa nadakam
3. KadavuL amaithu vaitha Medai
4. Vaan nila Nila Alla..
5. Nalladhor VeeNai saidhe-(Varumayin..)
6. Many songs in PayangaL mudivadhillai
7. idhu oru ponmaalai pozhuthu.
8. Pani Vizhum malar vanam
9.Paadi parandha kiLi
10. MaNNil Indha kaadal
11. Ilakanam maarudho
12. Unakenna mele nindrai
13.Sangeetha Jaadhi mullai
14.RaagangaL padhinaRu
15. paada kolusu paadi varum
16.chinna chinna thooral enna
17.konji konji alaigal oda
18. en kaadale en kaadali
19 veLLi nilave..veLLi nilave
20.saadhi malli poocharame
21 nenjukkuLLe innar endRu
22. unnai ninaichen paatu padhichen
23. Malare mounama..
24.chinna maaNi kuyile
25. unnai paartha pinbu naan..
26. Kaetten
I think many of theabove deserved National awards
any more songs could be added to the list.
KJY deserved awards for adisaya raagam, Sindhu Bhairavi-songs.
Responses:
- From: LV (@ 203.197.81.157)
on: Sun Jul 22 00:21:20 EDT 2001
sundar:
I thought BOTH Yesudas and Chitra had got National Award for Sindhubhairavi, and also hadnt MSV got it for Apoorva Raagangal? VJ did get the award for the evergreen Ezhu swarangalukkul.
- From: spb_maniac (@ webcacheh02a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sun Jul 22 09:26:39 EDT 2001
Sunder:
Come on man , SPB won national wasrds for "ponmali poluthu","aayirum nillave vaa","MaNNil Indha kaadal ",Sangeetha Jaadhi mullai
- From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com)
on: Mon Jul 23 03:16:32 EDT 2001
spb_maniac
infact the first national award for best singer went to SPB for a thamizh song is for thangaththaamarai magaLae from Minsaara Kanavu, though he deserved for better songs from earlier movies. But he got the award far before in Telegu, Hindi and Kannada (not sure about malayaaLam).
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183)
on: Mon Jul 23 08:45:05 EDT 2001
spb_maniac :
What kupps says is right.
He got one for Ek dooje ke liye. And his recent NA has been for a kannada film.
- From: eden (@ dialpool-210-214-5-242.maa.sify.net)
on: Tue Jul 24 05:51:55 EDT 2001
KJY didn't get NA for SindhuBhairavi while KSC & IR got. IMHO, KJY deserved for that film too.
- From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com)
on: Tue Jul 24 06:56:12 EDT 2001
CF
was it for ex doojae ke liyae or for mai(n) nae pyar kiya?
- From: SPB_maniac (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Jul 24 08:04:12 EDT 2001
kupps, SPB got the national award for ek doojae ke liyae" & "maine pyar kiya" & some latest album composed by nasaurudin shah
- From: LV (@ 203.197.80.28)
on: Wed Jul 25 01:48:15 EDT 2001
which album with Naseeruddin Shah?
Is it by any chance, 'mere payal tere geet' but that has Govinda - and Naushad's music.
- From: SPB_maniac (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Wed Jul 25 05:43:16 EDT 2001
LV; "meere payal tere geet", that's the one!!, thanx 4 the correction
- From: LV (@ 203.197.82.176)
on: Thu Jul 26 01:42:57 EDT 2001
SPBManiac:
For nearly 4 years Ive been looking for a link to this song, or an mp3. I enquired in SEVERAL music shops, but to no avail. I chanced to hear the song once on TV - can u provide me a link/mp3 please.
- From: LV (@ 203.197.82.176)
on: Thu Jul 26 03:04:04 EDT 2001
SPBMANIAC:
However that song from 'mere payal..' got SPB the Sur Singar Samsad award for best classical song of the year - NOT the National award.
- From: SPB_maniac (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Thu Jul 26 05:50:27 EDT 2001
LV;
I was going 2 ask u where i can get these songs, audio tapes, cds mp3 anything, I am in london, do u know any where in Uk, where I can buy it, I will try Hindi music shop.
I would just love 2 hear SPB singing it!
- From: Karthi (@ prxy.bkb.com)
on: Fri Jul 27 12:47:01 EDT 2001
SPB_mania,
"I would just love 2 hear SPB singing it!"
- I hope you certainly don't mean the SPB now, right:))
- From: shaNmugam (@ 63.101.96.1)
on: Fri Jul 27 15:45:19 EDT 2001
kArthi,
I hope you certainly don't mean the SPB now, right
I don't understand. IMHO, even today, SPB is THE singer in India. In fact, his voice is getting better day by day (usually, voice deteriorates as one gets older - for SPB, it is the reverse - atleast for now, and I hope, atleast my lifetime).
- From: LV (@ 203.197.80.210)
on: Sat Jul 28 01:48:50 EDT 2001
karthi:
Please tell me any recent song of SPB thats sounds bad. I dont think there is any.
- From: MS (@ ch-1317.che.sc.edu)
on: Sat Jul 28 02:09:49 EDT 2001
THe only noticeable factor in SPB's recent songs is the slight reduction in bass. If he can sing a "saththamillaadha thanimai kEttEn" type song at this age, god bless him with more life than he is destined to have. His fans will never get tired of hearing this genius.
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183)
on: Sat Jul 28 08:15:43 EDT 2001
>>>If he can sing a "saththamillaadha thanimai kEttEn" type song at this age, god bless him with more life than he is destined to have. His fans will never get tired of hearing this genius.
Very true
- From: lover (@ slip-32-101-208-119.dc.us.prserv.net)
on: Sat Jul 28 09:35:49 EDT 2001
hariharan should have got national / state awards for this songs...
Vidukathaya
Hai Rama
Uyire
Nila Kaigirathu
Kalaimanea
Kurukku Siruthavalea
Sollathey SoLla
Venilavea
Engengey
Anbea Anbea
Chandiranai Thottathu
Meera Meera
Naan Partha
Kadhali Kadhali
Eatho Oru Paatu
- From: paddaiyappa (@ webcachew04b.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sat Jul 28 12:40:34 EDT 2001
Lover HH should have treatment 4 his voice, I think his nose is blocked, You are right HH should got the award the best nasalist singer in IMF, nou doubt!
Pls do not talk about 3rd grade singers in to this forum, this about the IMF legend SPB, great KJY & M.Rafi!!!
MS;
What's this abt a slight reduction in SPB's bass, u r kidding right?, have u listened to "Rasiga, rasiga" from star, when he sings that bit "antha mumjayin ", what an awsome bass, which can not be matched by any singers in IMF!!!
- From: Neel (@ da001d0510.atl-ga.osd.concentric.net)
on: Sat Jul 28 13:07:28 EDT 2001
Sirkali Govindarajan without a doubt deserved a national award for a song in "Chittoor Rani Padmini" (Sivaji sings and Vyjayanthimala dances) and for "EngirunthO vanthaan" in "Padikkaatha Methai".
TMS deserved national awards for so many of his songs. Did he ever get any?
"Paadum vandae", "Megame Megame" by Vani Jayaram,
"Kaadhoduthaan naan paaduven","Pattaththu Rani" by LR Eswari, "Evano oruvan vaasikkiraan" by Swarnalatha, "aththaan en aththaan" and many many more by P.Susheela, Annakkili, Kavikkuyil and Uyire Unakkaaga songs by S.Janaki, all well deserved a national award.
- From: LV (@ 203.197.80.80)
on: Sun Jul 29 00:56:05 EDT 2001
Neel:
Of course all the songs u've mentioned are really great - no doubt.
Yet, I feel these award did not EXACTLY ELUDE our artists - in the sense that there are so many beautiful songs being produced by so many singers and MDs in so many different languages (nearly 15 lang.) - so deciding for the best is often so subjective.
Think of it, even if we were to choose amongst 10 great songs as to which is the best, it would be so difficult. And after all, only ONE song can get a National award, isnt it?
Another thing - I feel the movies that have flopped also contain great songs - that do not become famous. These rarities are quite often better than the "superhits".
- From: greatest_spb_fan (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Mon Jul 30 06:52:49 EDT 2001
Greetings LV & every body
SPB should have got more national awards than he got now, that is a pity, but the funniest thing is , I heard shnker got the national award for "enna solla pookirai" from kandu konden kando konden (is it true), I think that stinks.
By the way Dr.SPB has been singing for 32 years, yet his only national award for tamil song is "thankathamarai maghale", is that true?
I know he had national awards for telugu & hindi.
- From: sundar (@ 202.54.63.24)
on: Mon Jul 30 07:37:12 EDT 2001
yes SPB got a national award for a tamil song first and only time for thangathamarai....
the only tme earlier he was to have been considered by the National Jury was in 1980 for varumayin niRam Sivappu- for "theertha kariyenile".
this was veteoed by the casting vote of Chappathi-Shantaram.
It is a pity his outstanding songs in Tamil under KVM/MSV/IR and even ARR(in the beginning) were not considered good enough by the Jury.
What is so great about 'EnnavaLE' that UK got an award straight away.
that is the lopsided way these awards are decided.
- From: greatest_spb_fan (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Mon Jul 30 08:27:36 EDT 2001
ennavale adi ennavale by UK does not deserve national award at all, I strongly feel disgusted abt the fact SPB's first national award is 4 thankathamari maghale, SPB should have had atleast 20 national awards in his 32 years of service, this national awards business sucks!!!
How many National awards did KJY get 4 tamil songs???, next time, the national awards will go to nasalist legends like, hh,uk,Udit,Srinivas & shanker, even deva might get a national award for his "gana" songs!!!.
Long live SPB, the greatest singer in IMF!!!
- From: LV (@ 203.199.130.74)
on: Mon Jul 30 09:20:38 EDT 2001
greatest_spb_fan:
Ur olfactory senses are indeed remarkable!! :-)))
- From: billa (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Jul 31 05:37:11 EDT 2001
listen to SPB's extreme bass in "shankaraparanam" & "mainey pyar kiya","Hum aap ke khon" then talk abt M.Rafi, SPB has the bassiest voice in IFM!!!
- From: greatest_spb_fan (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Jul 31 07:40:43 EDT 2001
HFM has gone for manly voices ? Do you know why SPB was made to playback for Salman Khan right from the "Maine Pyar Kiya" days ? It was only bcos the so-called macho looks of Salman needed a voice that would enhance that image. This was repeated in many other films. Mission Kashmir had SPB renditioning for Sanjay Dutt - MANLY VOICE = SPB only !!
I totally Agree with this SPB=MANLY VOICE & SPB has been singing mainly for salman khan in HFM!!!
Long live the legend
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