Topic started by naan sense (@ 68.77.16.5) on Mon Sep 15 21:26:21 EDT 2003.
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Biggest blunder is losing Vani Jayaram. Seems like any IR song would've sounded super if VJ voice was there (whereas SJ voice was suited for SG, MSV)
2. blunder: Choosing Mano over SPB
3: Not giving enuff songs to Jayachandran and using weird voices like Krishnachandra etc..
4. Letting poor vocal control of PS, KJY and SJ in many a super IR song.
5: Sadma' poor songs without understanding Hindi market.
6. Wasting efforts in Kannada/Mal movies where he apparently does not have much recognition.
But, the biggest is Vani Jayaram. what a major loss to TFM
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- From: MADDY (@ 203.94.218.239)
on: Sat Sep 20 01:49:07 EDT 2003
according to me the biggest blunder he committed was being born in the era of ARR....... just jokin guys.....
seriuosly i feel :
1. losing MR,BR,Balachander
2. losing Vairamuthu
- From: Speaker (@ 202.56.150.2)
on: Sat Sep 20 05:12:44 EDT 2003
Mad(dy), IR didnt loose them. they lost. Era of ARR??? ROTFL...
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.135)
on: Sat Sep 20 05:59:37 EDT 2003
Read This....
http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/20092003-2.shtml
Ego clash!..and u say his humble?...
- From: arul (@ 136.206.35.10)
on: Sat Sep 20 06:53:27 EDT 2003
Hello Paran,
There was news in Kumudam (if i remember right...12-16 weeks back) saying that IR had disagreement with thangar....because of the remuneration clash that had taken place between panjuarunachalam (producer of Solla marantha kathai and the man who introduced IR into films) and thankar....it was put up that IR splitted due his loyality/respect/friendship(whatever) to panju....what do u say.....?
Also if u remember/aware there was an article in
ananthavikatan 3 weeks back by thangar....saying that he will still go back to IR if he invites....so pls understand....!
Please dont ask me show me for the Kumudam/vikatan links now...I am not intersted in proving a point....but look how the media men play the role....if u wish to go by this cinesouth news
go ahead...
But is it fair to just quote one side of the story? when there have been multiple contradictory statments ?....Anyhow, Thanks for reading my opnion.
Arul
- From: SS (@ 219.65.142.38)
on: Sat Sep 20 07:18:37 EDT 2003
IMHO, jency's song should have gone to VJ. (oru iniya manathu with VJ would have been an ultimate classic)
- From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232)
on: Tue Sep 23 01:26:52 EDT 2003
arul , good point.
Height of humbleness :If a MD claims he interested in doing films only for 3 directors, and films with others failed because they didn't know how to use him
Height of arrogance: Any newcomer in the field can approach IR and IR will indeed support him. Any social awareness movie wants IR do the movie, he will support. Any historical and native TN villege movies he will indeed support them. Those guys who grew just because of IR ,when they are in trouble still supported them. All the directors who grew, gained national awards just because of IR, still IR not bothered. Lastly, he speaks what is true to his heart. This is sign of true arrogance.
- From: Nattamai (@ 207.44.154.35)
on: Tue Sep 23 08:00:04 EDT 2003
paran:
You proved again that you are just one perfect example of hypocrite by giving the URL.
- From: Anbe sivam (@ 206.102.161.11)
on: Tue Sep 23 13:03:19 EDT 2003
Paran,
Also, I read thangar statement that he is not the reason why IR was not in Thendral.
IR is promoted as arrogant by journalists for quite some time. IR do not give slots or accepts invitations by journalists for any interview. His theory was I am good with music than with talking. What ever I want to express, I am comfortable in expressing in music. Then what is the need of these interviews.
Ofcourse IR had clash with directors. But he never compromised the loyalty. Ramrajan, Rajkiran, Thangar, Bala etc got the help when it was needed most by IR. This character of IR contradicts with other theory of arrogance.
I have a feeling, he talks his mind. There is only a thin line between confidence and ego and this can be misreported by journalists to their convenience.
At the same time, probably seeing this, ARR is very careful about PR. He may be good by heart and humble. But Giving credit to director for good music is way too much.(He knows even if he gives such credit, people will not give credit to director for good music and inturn feels ARR is very humble). He is very clever and also a good person.
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.135)
on: Tue Sep 23 22:33:55 EDT 2003
Nattamai....
I am not hypocrite...
just curios...when the same Cinesouth condemned ARR..u guys took it as the sole, and the most accurate report...but when it is regarding IR...u guys turn to me and saying....i am not rite, cinesouth doesn't report the correct thing..
mmmm something to ponder here?..Conspiracy Theory
- From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18)
on: Wed Sep 24 00:40:29 EDT 2003
Yes, there's an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY going on.
Stay tune for more.
- From: Podda (@ 217.168.35.200)
on: Wed Sep 24 05:29:28 EDT 2003
PARANPOON,
dei paran peh puunnddda mavene, unnuku onnu solla illana suthai pothikittu orrama poi irru.
You really can't discuss or carry out proper arguement. You got no points to make or facts to point out. All your post are vetti.
- From: MUSIC LOVER (@ 62.215.3.46)
on: Mon Sep 29 05:09:59 EDT 2003
NAAN SENSE ------ UR A BIG NONSENSE----GUESS U KNEW IT VERY WELL AND THTS Y U NAMED URSELF THAT----I APPRECIATE UR OPEN NESS
- From: MUSIC LOVER (@ 62.215.3.46)
on: Mon Sep 29 05:10:45 EDT 2003
NAAN SENSE ------ UR A BIG NONSENSE----GUESS U KNEW IT VERY WELL AND THTS Y U NAMED URSELF THAT----I APPRECIATE UR OPEN NESS
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