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Original and Patho version...

Topic started by Uthaman (@ 65.69.56.168) on Thu May 30 01:05:01 EDT 2002.
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In the 80's few songs came in two different versions. One Happy version other is Patho version. Coincidentally all were composed by Illayraja. Some of them from my memory.. Ironically some of the pathos were better than Happy version.

Pothi Vacha Malligai - Man vaasanai
Vellai pura ondru - Pudhu Kavithai
Enna padacholladhe - Aan Paavam
Paadava - Naan Paadum paadal
Iruparaviagl - Niram Maratha Pookkal
Kadhalin Deepam - Thambikku Endha Ooru
Adi Athadi - Kadalor Kavithaigal
Un Manasula - Pandi Nattu Thangam

Any other songs...

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Responses:

• From: Pathos man (@ 24.100.180.179) on: Thu May 30 01:43:10 EDT 2002
  
  hey buddy could u send me "Kaadhalin deepam" , "Adi Athadi" and Un Manasula" pathos versions pls.. sjkumana@yahoo.com
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 203.92.84.189) on: Thu May 30 02:53:47 EDT 2002
  
  Povoma Oorgolam - Chinna Tambi
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 203.92.84.189) on: Thu May 30 02:55:10 EDT 2002
  
  Povoma Oorgolam - Chinna Tambi
  Kuyil Paatu - En Raasavin Manasile
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.67) on: Thu May 30 04:06:25 EDT 2002
  
  Vaa vaa anbe - Eeramana rojave
  Chinna kannan azhaikkiran - Kavikkuyil (this is from 70s)
  Engirundho ilankuyilin - Brahma
  
  More to follow.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Thu May 30 04:07:04 EDT 2002
  
  IR's first movie itself has one song like that.
  1. Annakilli Unath Theduthey (SPB-TMS)
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.140.188) on: Thu May 30 06:24:53 EDT 2002
  
  How do I say this without antagonising?
  
  Two versions didn't happen in the 80s alone. It started long before then. And even in the 80s, not all such songs were by IR.
  
  Some samples:
  
  60s: Amaithiyaana nadhiyile, Paar magale paar, Ammadi ponnukku thanga manasu,
  70s: Kelaai magane keloru vaarthai, Adi ennadi raakkamaa, Ore jeevan ondre ullam, Malare kurinji malare
  80s: Malar koduthen, Mookkuthi poo mele, Tholvi nilaiyena ninaithaal
  
  G. Ragavan
  Since when Annakkili unnai theduthe was sung by SP Bala? :)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Thu May 30 07:17:13 EDT 2002
  
  Oru raagam paadalodu kaadhil kaettadho FROM aanandha raagam has a joyful duet version(KJY & SJ) and a sad version(KJY?).
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Thu May 30 09:06:22 EDT 2002
  
  oh! sorry! It was by SJ. mistake! :-)
  
  
• From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.59.100) on: Thu May 30 09:24:05 EDT 2002
  
  Hi ROTFL.. i know about quite a few old songs. But it was more frequent in the 80's. Some more that came to my mind.
  1) Engirundho Azhaikum
  2) Anjali Anjali
  3) Tenpandi Seemailyile
  
  Whole point i was trying to make is we don't find that in these days music. Just compare 70's and 80's with 90's. It is less frequent.
  
  
• From: sarat (@ 128.192.5.157) on: Thu May 30 10:29:24 EDT 2002
  
  oK this is not TFM...
  
  K3G title song - Lata (sad)
  K3G(sad version) -sonu
  k3g (really sad version) lata
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.188.91) on: Thu May 30 10:33:18 EDT 2002
  
  Uthaman
  
  One of the songs I mentioned, Kelaai magane kel oru vaarthai is from the Sivaji movie Uthaman. :)
  
  If you want many versions of one song from the 90s, you don't have to look farther than SA Rajkumar. :)
  
  
• From: curses (@ 203.199.248.170) on: Thu May 30 12:47:36 EDT 2002
  
  oK this is not TFM too..
  Sarfaroshi ki tamanna - TLOBS
  but i seriously dont know the situation. 1's fast the other is slow!!
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Thu May 30 13:02:09 EDT 2002
  
  Iru paravaaigal from Niram maradha poookaal - was there a Paathos version of it ? and also "kaadalaain deepaam ondru" - as far as i know there is only one version.....
  
  Rojaavaai Thaalaatum thendral - from Ninaivellam Nithya.....
  
  Oru Jeevaaan, Azhaaithadhu - from Geethanjali....
  
  "Geetham Sanggeethaam" by SPB/SPShailaja, forgot movie name.....
  
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Thu May 30 13:03:55 EDT 2002
  
  Senbagaaamaee, Senbagaaamaee from "Enga ooru paatukaaran" (the famous trouser song)....
  
  Raasathi onnai kaanadhaa Nenju from Vaidhegi Waiting.....
  
  
• From: MSR (@ 67.82.214.191) on: Thu May 30 13:33:15 EDT 2002
  
  Geetham Sangeetham is from the movie Kokkarakko.
  
  Vellai Pura ondru (KJY) from the movie Pudu kavithai
  Thooliyile aada Vanda (Mano) from the movie Chinna Thambi
  
  
• From: MSR (@ 67.82.214.191) on: Thu May 30 13:37:31 EDT 2002
  
  Puducheri katcheri (SPB) from the movie Singaravelan
  Basha Paru Basha Paru (SPB) from the movie Basha
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Fri May 31 01:40:37 EDT 2002
  
  DIGRESSION
  
  If you want many versions of one song from the 90s, you don't have to look farther than SA Rajkumar. :)
  
  ROTFL, DhooL
  
  but a small query, do you meant to say "Many Iterations" that suits SAR's songs aptly? coz i think u know there is a sea of difference between these two :-). versions match with situations whereas our beloved's songs are absolute. u have a same "ponnai virumbum bhoomiyilae" situation song(remember its "song" not "songs") for all situations.
  
  btw i quoted ponnai virumbum bhoomiyilae for quoting the situation. imo this song aptly describes the situation of the song ( a kind of peace of mind due to success in love, of a person who is loved by a lady even after knowing that this guy is having some drawbacks). but i understand how derogatory it is when i used it as a quote to explain our beloved's song(again no plural).
  
  SAR's songs a perfect example of "Mutiple Instantiation of a single object" (thank god the OS' garbage collector does its job perfectly).
  
  Finally i beg u ROTFL not to bring our beloved as long as im visiting this forum...u know such postings become irresistable when it comes to our beloved :-)
  
  END DIGRESSION (hopefully)
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.81.191) on: Fri May 31 04:54:53 EDT 2002
  
  eh.. Rojaavai thalattum thendral pathos version???
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.188.86) on: Fri May 31 05:17:55 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps
  
  SAR, SAR endru ivvalu mariyaathaiyodu kooppittu piragu, ippadi kavuthuteengale. :)
  
  I suppose this pathos version was a trend of those days and is no longer used. In fact creating a pathos song from a normal song is not that difficult.
  
  IR had once said the only singer who could bring out emotions extremely well in songs, is .... hold your breath...... TM Soundararajan!
  
  Talking about this issue, I am reminded on the incident during song recording for Naayagan. IR had given several tunes for the song which Janakaraj sings on the boat (Nila athu vaanathu mele), but Maniratnam was not happy.
  IR himself liked one particular tune and recommended it highly, but which was turned down.
  Now since IR particularly liked this tune, it was decided to use it for a pathos song and guess where the tune ended up? .... you're right! Then paandi seemaiyile was the tune offered for the boat song situation.
  
  The reason why I am saying this is to highlight that accomodating a tune for a pathos situation is not that difficult.
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 172.134.75.130) on: Fri May 31 07:17:22 EDT 2002
  
  Vj - there is this song "Kaanaal Neer Pool Endhaan Kaadhal" sung by SJ in the same movie - not sure if the film had it or not, but ihave it in my cassette (ugly junk pink colour cassette).....
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 63.206.199.37) on: Wed Jun 5 13:07:52 EDT 2002
  
  ovvoru paadalilum from ennavalae
  
  
• From: e (@ ) on: Fri Aug 13 11:55:51 EDT 2004
  
  azhagAna pookkaL (sugam) & kanavOdu Engum (sOgam)from anbE odi vA
  (both SJ)
  
  

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