Topic started by Jana (@ pppa43-columbus3-1r30.saturn.bbn.com) on Mon May 24 20:56:27 EDT 1999.
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In the playback singing history, TMS has his own place. TMS is the only singer who could pronouce each and every tamil word so clearly. Even today we could enjoy the songs sung by him - Malarnthum malaraatha, Enge Nimmathi?, Manithan Maarivittaan. While he sung more than thousands of songs in Tamil, he did not shine in other Languages - especialy in Telugu. But the Tamil Film Music Industry has always respected the talented singers from other regions like Ghandasala - the most revered singer in Telugu PB Srinivas to name a few. TMS has sung few telugu songs, but he is not even know to them as we know Ghantasala.
I am opening this thread to discuss as to why TMS could/did not establish his name in other regions. Please share your views and comments
Responses:
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-76-48.sprint.ca)
on: Mon May 24 20:59:08 EDT 1999
Honey
It's because tamils are known as 'vanthaarai vaalavaikum thamilargal':-))
- From: Kanna (@ panorama2.nus.edu.sg)
on: Wed May 26 02:27:25 EDT 1999
I believe it is because of his voice..it was rather classical...This didn't suit the songs in other languages...ieHindi..where they rely more on soothing romantic voices
- From: Kanna (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Wed May 26 02:28:06 EDT 1999
I believe it is because of his voice..it was rather classical...This didn't suit the songs in other languages...ieHindi..where they rely more on soothing romantic voices
- From: thathuvavaathi (@ 207.247.192.254)
on: Fri May 28 11:55:21 EDT 1999
all time
- From: eden (@ 202.54.71.155)
on: Sat May 29 00:57:40 EDT 1999
`Could not shine' is probably not a correct statement as none of us will ever know whether he seriously tried at all. `Did not make a mark' could be more accurate. Possibly because he was busy here all along or he never took the other places seriously etc..(probabaly no one can provide facts now?)
- From: karthi (@ titanic.theatrium.net)
on: Fri Jun 4 20:43:59 EDT 1999
I've heard people say that he actually never tried singing in other languages at all so much for his passion for the Tamil language!
- From: eden (@ 202.54.71.143)
on: Sat Jun 5 01:50:08 EDT 1999
Karthi!
That's great to know (especially since sowrashtra seems to be his mother tongue)
- From: karthi (@ titanic.theatrium.net)
on: Sat Jun 5 09:11:37 EDT 1999
Obviously Eden, I don't think anyone can be fond of sowrastra (the language) - because I have never heard anything more of that language than that it serves to be the mother tongue of Sowrashtrians!!!
- From: rajaG (@ ip1.kansas-city7.mo.pub-ip.psi.net)
on: Sat Jun 5 10:47:13 EDT 1999
I believe, in his formative years, TMS knew to read, write and speak only thamizh and probably some English. Unfortunately, if one is exposed mostly (only) to thamizh, they do not learn to distinguish between tha and tHa, pa and pHa, ba and bHa, dha and dHa, pa and ba, tha and dha...as some of these are non existent in thamizh and some are written the same way and left to the user's learning/instinct to differentiate. However, the principal neighboring languages, thelugu, malayaaLam, and kannada, are sanskrit based and demand proper distinction between each of these sounds.
Among many other requirements, singing a playback film song in any language requires (at least used to require until ARR lowered the standards), proper pronunciation and proper emotion/expression in line with the unique culture represented by the language. For example, adi vayaththulErndhu paadaradhu, which MKT, seergaazhi, TMS etc...practiced in thamizh would not jell with say a Prem Nazir's or Akkineni Nageswara Rao's expression/culture. I think TMS did not (could not) adapt himself to both the requirements mentioned above. If at all, he succesfully made an effort to achieve the first requirement in say, a given song, he definitely could not achieve the second requirement.
Being very busy in TFM could have been another song too. But I have heard some of his efforts in thelugu, and MAN, he sucks big time.
- From: rajaG (@ ip1.kansas-city7.mo.pub-ip.psi.net)
on: Sat Jun 5 10:50:08 EDT 1999
Oops! The first line in the last para should read 'reason' instead of 'song'.
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ proxy2.atl.prodigy.net)
on: Sat Jun 5 23:35:34 EDT 1999
I feel that one of the major reasons could be that Gantasala's voice had been already established as the hero's voice after the thumping success of Malleswari and Devadas. Thus a particular 'culture' had been set which was far too different from TMS's style of presentation.Another reason, probably TMS's accent ? I heard one of his Kannada songs , I felt he sounded too Tamilish..whatever that is, difficult to articulate that. His style in this song was best suited for Tamil Bhakthi songs, sounded very similar to Vani Jayaram's effort in Maro Charithra.
Digression, RajaG, another song worthy of attention in Chakri's home page, 'Kadile Meghama' from 'Laila' (check it out in 80's section). Fastish number and superbly rendered
- From: P.S. Gopinath (@ )
on: Thu Sep 13 08:09:00 EDT 2001
His voice modulation most suited to Tamizh accent only.
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